Geno Smith - You did it to yourself

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  1. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Premium Member

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    This could be fun to watch.
     
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    Wow NYC is going to eat that kid alive.
     
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    Roman529 Moon Runner / The 3 AM Crew

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    I think some guys believe a lot of the hype and surround themselves with hanger-ons (posses) and family members who tell them they are the greatest thing since sliced bread, and they believe it. Then when they go on visits to other teams, they feel they are special and entitled. You can tell the hard workers from the slackers. Why do you think Jerry Jones is getting on Tony Romo, and telling him he needs to "spend more time at the office," instead of playing golf. I think this is what separates guys like Manning from most other QB's...he works at it and is a true professional.
     
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    Sounds like he treated his trips to team facilities like college recruiting visits instead of like professional job interviews (which they really were) like he should have. Far from impossible for him to learn from his intransigence. Firing his agents instead of looking in the mirror isn't a step in the right direction though.
     
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    I disagree. He fits perfectly. Reminds me of Namath.
     
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    Phinatic8u Adam ****ing Gase

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    Dude blows.
     
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    if it's a matter of him just listening to the wrong people, he can get around it. Problem is, that could take a LONG time. Some guys can separate themselves fairly quickly from bad influences, others can't.

    Now if this is just him being a ********... well that's gonna be another issue entirely
     
  9. ckparrothead

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    In five years he could be the next Aaron Rodgers and we'll all look back and say it was silly to doubt him based on something like this. But for now, it's fun to trash on the Jets' new quarterback.
     
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    I think the Gruden Quarterback Camp videos are an invaluable resource, and often a tip toward whether a player will be drafted higher or lower than expected. Not necessarily how well he'll play, but when he'll be picked. I can't remember being fooled more than a couple of times. I guarantee the franchises are fixated on those programs.

    Gruden identified that Geno Smith was emotional. That was one of his themes, and he only uses a handful in each episode. As soon as I saw that, I doubted he would be picked anywhere close to the high end projections. Not a valued trait in a quarterback. It certainly aligns with the article linked here, and everything Smith has done since the first day of the draft.

    Smith wasn't bad on the show. Not aloof or arrogant. He paid attention and was decent on the chalkboard. But I can't remember another quarterback who Gruden labeled as emotional. Smith didn't try to dispute it.

    E.J. Manuel dominated the chalkboard and overall was far more impressive than I expected. I knew he'd go earlier than estimated. I like to tape all the programs and watch them back to back, as opposed to spread out.

    Mike Glennon was the second standout on Gruden this year. He makes some awful throws. He reminds me of a Kerry Collins type, awkward stationary type capable of wild sways in performance from game to game, or within the same game. Glennon has more touch than Collins but probably not as tough. I think he's an interesting prospect because at times he really stands out and takes over a game, which can't be said about most of these guys. Glennon sounded like a mature pro quarterback alongside Gruden, and he extended the session by asking Gruden what he needs to work on toward the NFL. Something like that will earn points.

    Tyler Bray should have declined. That was sad to watch. Other guys simply didn't have much energy, like Landry Jones, Tyler Wilson, and Ryan Nassib. Even Barkley was less animated than I expected. He seemed to think it was amusing.

    My favorite segment this year was Gruden mocking all the weaknesses of empty sets in the Zac Dysert program.
     
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    Geno Smith = Akili Smith 2.0
     
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    I figured him to be a big time bust in the NFL. So far, he's doing little to make me doubt myself. His lack of maturity, poor attitude, finger pointing, etc. shows his lack of character: all important traits a future starting QB must possess. To me, he's another Vince Young, but with less talent.
     
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    Dion Jordan has just as much in common with Akili Smith as Geno Smith
     
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    How so?
     
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    Every year the jests QB situation gets funnier and funnier to much.
     
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    He played for Oregon thats what he has in common with Deon
    Geno played qb

    so they both have one thing in common
     
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    As a WVU fan I'm sad for Geno going to the Jets because they are gonna ruin him by throwing him right in the flames
     
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    As much as I thought that Matt Barkley was overrated last year, I think that the Jets, Bills and Jaguars screwed the pooch by not taking him in the 1st 3 rounds this year. It's hard to not look at EJ Manuel as a gamble at #16 and I think that Geno Smith's bust potential is through the roof.
     
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    As a gamble, I like E.J. Manuel. Went awful high...but when you're desperate you've got to force the issue. He notches a lot of what you're looking for, both in the classical sense and in the "new NFL" sense. Kind of unique that way.

    But I don't think he or Geno Smith will be great ones at the next level.
     
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    Did anyone see the look of contempt that Geno Smith gave Dion Jordan when the Dolphins moved up to select Jordan at #3? Geno was seated at the adjoining table and he was already not impressed to have been overlooked. Little did he know that he would be waiting until the next day for the Jets to take him.
    Methinks Geno has a very big opinion of himself. He fails to appreciate that Tavon Austin is so good that he helped Geno looked good at times, by making something out of nothing. I'm looking forward to see if the Jets play him ahead of Sanchez. Need a big locker room to be able to accommodate those egos. (not to forget Rex).
     
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    didn't like Smith now that he is a Jet I like him even less
     
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    Geno Smith > EJ Manuel
     
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    I'll take E.J. Manuel over Geno. Maybe I'll end up wrong. But that's my evaluation.

    Hearing that Geno has shown up to training camp in very poor condition. I think I heard the word "disgraceful" used. There was always something about his personality that scared me a little. Everyone else saw this beautiful artist genius. Maybe he is. I'm not seeing that.
     
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    He didn't play very well late in the season last year. He needed to stay in school. Always good to see Jet QBs suck!
     

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