Gregg Rosenthal calls out Omar over Wallace criticism

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  1. uk_dolfan

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    The kicker is that say Wallace had 5 TDs in camp already.....all over 50 yds......what would people say?

    "It's early in Training Camp. It doesn't matter until it counts."
     
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    Heck when Tannehill did throw a TD to Wallace yesterday Omar said it didnt count lol
     
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    I remember when Danny would look bad during preseason how people would overreact.
     
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    If true that should be the end of his career :lol:
     
  7. uk_dolfan

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    Said it was broken coverage so didnt count in his book.


    I don't dislike Omar like some do around here, but I do hate how he talks about Tannehill, he clearly has an agenda.
     
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    Omar Kelly is the absolute worst.
     
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    So in an actual NFL game I suppose the refs will say the TD didn't count b/c of the busted play. Too bad for us.
     
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    Worst thing is the other guys that are left don't really update much, so I have to put up with all his crap on Twitter to get a bit of info... I miss Ben Volin.
     
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    It's frustrating having a beat reporter who doesn't know **** about football covering your team. Sun-Sentinel can't do any better than Kelly? Really?
     
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    Wow that's a very direct shot at Omar. Can't believe a national writer would take such a straight shot at a beat writer. Bet Omar is fuming.

    On another note, Greg should be careful, i mean Omar is an attempted murderer.

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    That's his shtik. He says things to rile the fans up so the read his garbage and follow him. He gets more threads on finheaven than any other reporter, so clearly people are reading his articles so he gets to keep his job. I would liken him more to that guy at the carnival that sits over a vat of water heckling the crowd while people hurl baseballs at him. There is always a big crowd surrounding that act and unfortunately that's what journalism is today.
     
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    Good... Omey The Would-be killah has about as much qualifications to be a beat writer as I do to be the heir apparent to the British Throne.
     
  17. uk_dolfan

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    Omar thinks you work for him, your biased lol
     
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    pretty dumb thing for omar to jump on this early and pretty dumb thing for rosenthal to care about...
     
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    I just started following Volin's replacement Andrew Abramson the other day and he's done a pretty nice job over the first couple of days.
     
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    Omar is such a prick !
     
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    Don't know what's more absurd...the implication from Omar that at this point we can already tell that either Brent Grimes is back to his pro bowl form or the Dolphins overpaid for Mike Wallace (either could be true, both could be true, or both could be untrue, at this point)...or the reaction to this article, including by Gregg Rosenthal who is part of a Rotoworld crowd that I know for a fact have it out for Omar big time.

    Omar has probably earned his enemies over the years but the article he wrote if you actually read it is merely an observation (Wallace not dominating yet), accompanied by an allegory of past experience (Marshall dominating immediately), and then a whole s-ton of reasons why this is a different situation and it's too early for any of this to matter in all likelihood.

    To be honest, what's wrong with that? He spent like 75% of the article talking about how certain guys don't toss in that extra gear until they're in game situations and how logistically the role Wallace plays on the offense might mean that he can't stand out in these settings, etc.

    Gregg Rosenthal's reaction was nothing more than a hit job and he knows it. Like I said, Omar has earned a lot of negative sentiment over the years but that doesn't change the fact that Rosenthal's article reaction was a hit job.
     
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    The only person worse than Omar is Chris Perkins. The fact they BOTH write for the same paper just gives reason to ignore that entire newspaper all together.

    Both Perkins and Omar have no clue. They both want to make headlines themselves, and just stir the pot

    There is a reason that EVERY major reporter in Miami in recent years from Cole, Marvez, Schad, Volin...etc moved onto bigger and better things. Yet they haven't!!
     
  23. uk_dolfan

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    it is very odd to have a shot at a local papers beat writers as one of the first articles on nfl.com

    I agree with the point of the article, Rosenhal is correct, it is absurdly early to be focusing on the impact of Wallace, but calling out one writer is slightly unusual
     
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    Bah everyone's reports are inconsistent with each other. By all accounts the team has more overall young potential than previous years.

    Can't wait for the real action.
     
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    Omar's piece was textbook content generation at a time when there's not much to talk about.

    He laid up a negative observation, threw in a story of past experience to give it perspective, and then spent the bulk of the piece explaining every reason under the sun why this may not, and indeed probably does not, matter.

    The diametric opposite of that would be tossing in a positive observation, throwing in a story of past experience to give it perspective, and then spending the rest of the article outlining caveats about why we should not necessarily get too excited about this yet.

    Both are instances of content generation at a time when there's not a ton of content to be had and quite frankly I don't really see much that was wrong with Omar's piece other than I can tell he wrote it knowing he'd get negative attention but it didn't matter to him because attention is attention.

    Rosenthal's piece on the other hand, there's not a lot for me to respect about it. I like him, but he wrote a piece that was a pure hit job. No attempt to be balanced whatsoever. And it's because the guys that are part of his group have beef with Omar (which may or may not be well deserved).
     
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    It always amazes me that Omar is widely recognized as a horrible beat writer yet people still read his stuff and get upset with it. I follow Omar on Twitter but learned a long time ago not to put much stock into his evaluations. He is not a sole source of info by any means just one of all the Dolphin beat writers I read. My advice would be that if you can't read Omar without the ability to filter out the garbage, don't.
     
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    I don't know the source of their particular beef but if it derives from the first phrase I bolded then it would be pretty justified, no? Omar's throwing a little bit of Bayless out there because he knows what that does to his clicks. Not the full Bayless, but a bit.

    Reason enough to say negative things, if you ask me.
     
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    Maybe. But couldn't you say the same thing about someone for throwing out a piece with positive observations that the author knows don't mean much but will get him attention from the fan base because it tells them what they want to hear?

    It's basically the same thing. Like I said it's content generation at a time when there's not much significant content to write about.
     
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    IMO Omar Kelly privately thinks Tannehill is a 2nd string QB and doesn't really care for him.

    So,when Omar points out that Tannehill threw a blown coverage deep pass to Mike Wallace,I ignore the opinion (Blow coverage) part and try and judge it from other reports or sources.

    Omar Kelly is the Bleacher report II,has some good,but has some bad and questionable opinions.
     
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    Nothing's good enough. It seems like he hates the entire team.
     
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    Sure. That would be the same thing. Though if there are Phins beat writers out there deliberately blowing people's skirts up I don't know who they are. Either way this term "content generation" doesn't really do justice to Omar's strategy. It's a nice way of saying he's being dishonest when we should just say he's being dishonest.
     
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    Pretty much. He's a ****ing idiot, which is why I don't pay attention to him. I wouldn't be half as aware that he's an idiot if we didn't constantly have posts about the idiotic things he's writing.
     
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    I ****ing love that he killed Omar in the article. I do not care what the content is...Omar sucks.
     
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    Not only does the local media and fans disrespect him, but now the national media is catching on to him and are starting to publicly disrespect him. He just performed career suicide on himself by acting so unprofessional.

    Did we ever hear Darlington report like he does? No.. What happened? Darlington got promoted. Did we ever hear Volin report like he does? No.. What happened? Volin promoted. The next up will be Barry Jackson. The we will be stuck with just Omar and Armando.. Both commit career suicide daily.
     
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    Did we ever hear Darlington report like he does? No.. What happened? Darlington got promoted. Did we ever hear Volin report like he does? No.. What happened? Volin promoted. The next up will be Barry Jackson. The we will be stuck with just Omar and Armando.. Both commit career suicide daily.[/

    PLEASE DONT LEAVE US BARRY!!! Your all we got left
     
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    I have no idea how what he wrote was dishonest. That's the primary disconnect I'm having with you on this.
     
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    The best part about all of that is that it makes a lick of difference what Kelly has to say. Now if he had some influence over how Tannehill and Co. played that'd be a whole different topic. Seeing as how his job is only to report stories and tidbits, what he says is as meaningful as how many needles are in a haystack in reality.
     
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    Tidbits....good word for how I use Omar and The Bleacher report,they have enough tidbits to keep me coming back.

    Omar "Tidbit" Kelly
     
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    Id actually be more worried if Omar said Wallace DID look good. After all, last preseason he was saying Nanaee was highly impressive.
     
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    Legedu "No Holes In His Game" Naanee
     
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    I'd like his shtick a lot more if I could hurl baseballs at him while I was listening to it.
     
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    It's dishonest because it's deliberately inflammatory... not because he wants to shine a light on something or make a point through exaggeration but because he knows, as you said, it's going to get negative attention and that's better than no attention.
     
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    It's still his honest opinion. All writers incorporate public interest into their decision on what to write. As well they should. I'm not seeing where that's wrong.
     
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    I doubt anything he says is an honest opinion anymore, IMO Omar has clearly gone out of his way to be the skip bayless of Mia and he believes that will be how he will make it big.
     
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    While I liked reading the article, and I completely agree with everything he said, it was poor taste calling out another reporter directly imo for something so trivial, especially under the NFL.com brand.
     
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    I truly believe that Omar Kelly is a moron.

    That said, he works for a newspaper in which physical paper demand continues to decrease while online continues to increase. He has to shake sh*t up. After all, if he can't bring in clicks, his value is zero.

    If you don't like his opinions: ignore them. He's proven more than once to be 'quick on the trigger', and I'm not talking about his moronic tweet regarding Hernandez.

    Simply put: If you want him gone, don't click on his articles. Because that's what the sun-sentinel cares about: clicks.
     
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    Jeff Darlington is the best glad he still covers some dolphin stuff. He writes good articles about all teams. I don't like this Rosenthal guy.
     
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    I just don't believe it's his honest opinion that these practices "prove" that either a) Grimes is back to being a pro bowler, b) Mike Wallace is being vastly overpaid, or c) Grimes is sort of back to being a pro bowler and Mike Wallace is only being somewhat overpaid. He's not an idiot, and he's been at this long enough to know nothing like this has been proven. I think he wants his daily reports to matter so he wants these early practices to be seen significant or predictive. He does something similar every year, from Misi being called "55" to Legedu having no flaws and on down. It's always something, and I don't think it's an accident. He wants to be inflammatory because irritating the fans drives clicks and follows. I think that's dishonest journalism.

    On the other hand it's smart because he's a very pedestrian writer and doesn't have some special voice or perspective. Failing good prose or insight you have to be controversial, which is of course a corrupting system. Because the alternative is you end up like Mike Berardino, who tried to play it straight but didn't have anything special to offer and was inevitably ****canned. Omar doesn't want to end up like that.
     
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    Why anybody would hire Omar to write about the NFL and the Phins, is one of the world's great mysteries.
     

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