Hayden Fox's Assessment: Week 10

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  1. Hayden Fox

    Hayden Fox Love Creating Turnovers Donator

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    Positives
    * Ryan Tannehill was solid tonight. With no semblance of a running game, RT managed a solid game. 27-42, 229 yards, 2 TD's and 1 int (desperation heave at the end of the game). He also managed a great 2 minute drill at the end of the game.
    * Rishard Matthews had a coming out party. He was excellent out of the slot. He had 120 yards on 11 catches and 2 TD's.
    * 3rd down defense. Held the Bucs to 3-12 on the money down.
    * Jimmy Wilson's interception.
    * Dion Jordan had pressure on the QB on the Wilson pick.
    * Nolan Carroll had a perfectly executed blitz.
    * Marcus Thigpen's punt return that set up a Dolphins score.
    * Brandon Fields punt that perfectly went out of bounds inside the one.
    * Marlon Moore's hit on a KR.

    Negatives
    * On a week we heard about the team being fired up and "together", the team came out absolutely flat. No energy.
    * Once again the team started out flat and again could not finish.
    * The team showed to be undisciplined. Mike Pouncey took an early personal foul. Later, late in the game Phillip Wheeler, gives a blow to the head of a Mike Glennon that keeps alive a drive that kills more clock.
    * Gave up a TD that won the game for TB after Miami had gone ahead with a 19-15 lead and momentum.
    * 2 yards rushing for the entire game. A franchise low. 0.1 yards per rush.
    * Michael Egnew misses a blitzing LB that leads to an easy safety.
    * John Jerry yielding two sacks in crunch time.
    * Pass pro melted late.
    * RT missing an open Mike Wallace as his throw took him out of bounds.
    * Terrible chemistry between Tannehill and Wallace.
    * Charles Clay. Multiple drops and showed limited awareness in his routes and when running the ball.
    * RT staying in the pocket, but had a chance to run while in the Red Zone.
    * Run defense. Gave up 140 yards to a team without both its starting RB's and everyone in the world knowing they would run the ball.
    * Bad Tackling. Missed tackles. Terrible form. Dline played on skates. Olivier Vernon losing contain. He is not setting the edge.
    * Changed later, but the Bucs were able to match up Vincent Jackson against a LB.
    * Chris Clemons dropped an interception chance. From there, the Bucs punt and back up the Dolphins inside the 1 yard line. That leads to a Bucs safety.
    * Terrible PI call on Brent Grimes.
    * Marcus Thigpen losing valuable yards by taking the ball out of the end zone.
    * Punt coverage team yielded a long return, plus five yards to set a Bucs FG.
    * No TD after the Thigpen PR.
    * Thigpen not attempting a return and instead fair catching it even though he had a chance to make some yards with a return.
    * Conservative play calls in close after the Wilson pick. No killer instinct to put the opponent away.
    * The team did not blitz until later in the game. They had success, but waited back and played coverage early and lost.
    * Going for 2 points with seconds left in the 3rd. IF they would have taken the extra point, they might have had a shot to win the game with a FG at the end of the game instead of tie. Poor game management.

    Overall Assessment
    * I never bought the narrative that this was going to be fired up and take it out on the Bucs tonight. This team has shown to be mentally weak and lack direction from the head coach. This is a very weak group in terms of showing toughness...players and coaching staff included.
    * It kind of makes me sick that the players were indignant about people questioning their locker room and they in turn go out and lay and egg.
    * With all that said, how is the team NOT ready and fired up to start out? How is there NOT controlled aggression? Where is the staff putting the team in positions that they perform best in so they can "play fast"? Where is a "razzle dazzle", trickeration to get the team pumped up and having fun? In a stadium where they are ready to turn on their home team, the Fins breathed life into the Bucs and made it a game. Unacceptable.
    * I am tired of hearing what Jonathan Martin wants. Martin is a weak person that had no social skills to avoid America's latest controversy. He created a distraction. He tore apart an offensive line. The focus from the owner to the press is about Jonathan needs. Disgusting. I never want him to play for Miami again.
    * I am sure the national media is happy Miami lost. From Mike Florio, to Jason Laconfora, to Tom Jackson, to Shannon Sharpe are busting right now. ESPN is fired up that Bucs got their first win against the Fins.
    * With that said, ESPN struggled tonight. Mike Tirico said the Pouncey penalty was a "15 yarder on Incognito" and twice Jon Gruden kept calling Clay, "William Clay".
    * Steven Ross meant well, but created a distraction by having his presser before the game. He should have let the team play and have his presser in Davie tomorrow or had it last week. Ross means well, but it was awful timing.
    * Jeff Ireland is obviously in trouble. He might be the fall guy. However, Jeff Ireland is not putting together the game plan nor motivating the team. Joe Philbin is leaving a lot to be desired right now.
    * I still do not think Joe Philbin is off the hook btw. I know that Ross raved about him, but at the end of the day the NFL's report is going to come out and show that the locker room was not a good working environment and things went on that "should not have"...that is on Philbin. Plus, Philbin needs to make a difference on game day from here on out. I saw a listless team for the first two quarters and again one that cannot finish.
    * Joe Philbin gives the team no advantage. Not one of motivation. Not one of game planning/strategy leading into a game. Not one of intellectual prowess on game day. I am confused on what he brings that is so important for the organization to hold on to. How can the team not be focus for 3 hours on game day? That is on the head coach. This team is not coached well.
    * Make no mistake about it, Miami lost to a bad team tonight. Mike Glennon is terrible. They were without both Doug Martin and Mike James. They have a terrible pass D...yet Miami lost. A brutal loss.
    * With that said, Miami is still in it. The season is NOT over. However, next week is a must win versus San Diego. Win and they are still in it. Lose and it is over. The distractions and investigations will eat this team alive. 4pm at Sun Life...whatcha got Miami?
     
  2. PCmor

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    I like your breakdowns, Hayden. The problem with this is every positive needs to be taken with a grain of salt because the Bucs did everything in their power to give the Dolphins this game ... and the Dolphins gave it right back.
     
  3. Hayden Fox

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    Yep. NO killing instinct on this team. That is a reflection from the top.
     
  4. Shouright

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    229 yards passing on 42 attempts is not a good game.

    As an analogy, it would be like a running back gaining 105 yards on 40 carries.

    It's an inefficient performance in terms of passing, and efficiency in the passing game is what wins.
     
  5. NCFINFAN13

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    Sorry Hayden ... this team is finished. They've been "bullied" into submission. They really suck right now and I don't think this coaching staff can or know what to do. We may not win another game this year. It's that bad.
     
  6. Miamifinz

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    We've had leads in what? Every game except the Saints game? Cannot deliver a final blow for ****.
     
  7. Hayden Fox

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    If you thought RT was the problem tonight versus the coaching, energy, run defense and running game production there is no convincing you about the QB ever.

    ---------- Post added at 01:03 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:02 AM ----------

    Maybe, but win next week and get a Buffalo win in Orchard Park you are tied for the 6th spot. I am just not convinced the HC is ready to lead this team out of this mess.
     
  8. Shouright

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    There were lots of problems, and the QB was one of them.
     
  9. mrbunglez

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    So what do you have for stats with the paltry 2 yards of rushing? If the running game is a non factor the defense plays the pass more. You take away one, the other will suffer.
     
  10. Hayden Fox

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    Its late. I cannot debate the QB this late.
     
  11. Jamaicankid21

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    1st and goal on the 7. Perfect chance to put the game away.. Daniel Thomas sweep to open drive. Incomplete next. Charles Clay screen on 3rd down for 0 yards. Not being able to put teams away has killed this team all season. 3rd win it has cost us
     
  12. PogiRo

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    I wonder how many passing games have won a game with 2 rushing yards to help it out.
     
  13. Jamaicankid21

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    The HBs combined for 0. All backs had 13 rushes for 0 yards. QB had 2 yards himself. Our QB tied our starting HB for rushing yards with 2. Our backup HB had -2. and our FB had 2 rushes for 0. 13 rushes for 0 yards from our backs.. That is pathetic
     
  14. mrbunglez

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    Reading that makes my eyes bleed.
     
  15. JayCee

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    This is what makes me wanna literally puke about this team!!
     
  16. Shouright

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    The Buccaneers scored 22 points on 21 pass attempts, which is about the number of points per pass the Denver Broncos (the league leaders in that area) score this year.

    The Dolphins on the other hand scored 19 points on 42 pass attempts, which is about what the Cleveland Browns have done this year.

    Moreover, the Buccaneers prior to tonight scored only 0.42 points per pass attempt, and we managed to increase that to more than a point per attempt tonight, while scoring fewer points per attempt ourselves than we had typically.

    In terms of scoring efficiency, we turned the Tampa Bay Buccaneers into the Denver Broncos, while we became the Cleveland Browns.

    ---------- Post added at 12:12 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:10 AM ----------

    There is no relationship between rushing performance and passing efficiency. A team can still pass the ball efficiently while running the ball poorly.

    Now, if you'd like to make the argument that the team should've rushed the ball more, I'm with you.
     
  17. joenhre

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    Technically they may be still in it but in reality they are done due to the coaching staff and type of team they have been.

    They may come out and beat San Diego in a close game. Then they'll come out flat the following week and end up losing to Carolina by 10. Then they will go up to New York and will get run over by the Jets while making Geno Smith look like Drew Brees. Then they will play a sloppy game against the Steelers winning by a point in the last second. Then they will come home and start out either slow or fast against the patsies either way they will find a way to lose in the end. Philbin's team plays with no fire and only plays well in stretches giving false hope to us fans.
     
  18. dabeastdabone

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    Nice write up. The things that bothered me most are:
    -Tannehill needs to use his feet more. We miss to many conversions that he could of easily make by running. I know the tendency is to not make the QB run to avoid injury but there is a point where it simply has to be used.
    -Our no huddle looked so good at the end of the 2nd why don't they use it full time?
    -I'm so disappointed Wallace isn't working out. They need to go back to the drawing board and simply use him over the top and give Mathews starter snaps.
    -People will complain about Tannehill but he showed to anyone who cares to see he can play at a high level when given time, even with no running game.
    -Our RB's sucked. Miller is a joke. I can't believe we got rid of Bush for him to step into the role.
    -This is the same old Dolphins defense, couldn't step it up when it matters. Our offense has youth to use as an excuse, our defense has zero excuses.
     
  19. Miamifinz

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    Just one more thing - I think Kevin Coyle and Miami need to part ways in the worst way. These are the # of points this team has given up since week 2:

    20
    23
    38
    26
    23
    27
    20
    22

    8 straight games allowing 20+ points. MASSIVE disappointment there.
     
  20. dabeastdabone

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    We had no running game to compliment it. Our running game was short passes. Blame the nonexistent running game.
     
  21. Viggen

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    To not put anything on Tannyhill is absurd. He is not even average at this point, and shows no fire at all. Is he ever angry? Does he ever get in someone's face and get them stoked? He inspires no one.
     
  22. Shouright

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    Short passes aren't incompatible with passing efficiency.
     
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    Outstanding post ........excellent comments
     
  24. PogiRo

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    Except you related passing efficiency to winning. Pretty sure 2 yards rushing also played a role in the loss.
     
  25. Sirspud

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    I was at the game...QB was the problem on exactly one play. Tannehill failed to get the ball deep to Wallace on one of the rare chances versus Revis. Other than that, I saw a very limited number of plays where he didn't make the right read or the right throw, etc. Almost every pass was short tonight, and that is by design with this horrid offensive line. That's just the state of things, he has to get the ball out in a short time frame or get killed. The real problem here is that we are limiting our chances and having to play on our heels on offense almost constantly because our defense, regardless of opponent, can't get off the field and flat out fails to make plays that could and should be drive enders. The bulk falls our LB corps, who despite once again having significant money put into them, are missing tackles on seemingly half their opportunities, and simply can't cover anyone when asked to either. Except for blitzing, they are useless, and even then they are dumb enough to extend drives with stupid penalties.
     
  26. Shouright

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    Sure, but it didn't necessarily play a role in the passing inefficiency.

    In other words, the passing could've still been efficient despite the rushing performance.
     
  27. Sirspud

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    Actually, yes, having a running game that is completely irrelevant does have an effect on the passing game. Their corners were able to stay back on both Wallace and Hartline, taking away the opportunity for deep passes, with their safeties covering the deep middle. They were able to stop the run without keeping any secondary members near the LOS, which plays a huge effect on the passing game.
     
  28. J. David Wannyheimer

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    Here's my assessment: this team blows.

    Fire everyone.
     
  29. Shouright

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    That effect doesn't exist league-wide. The correlations between running game variables and passing efficiency don't exceed the low 30s. In other words, a team can still pass efficiently when its running game is performing poorly.
     
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    Yes, it is possible, but it's much harder, and I am almost positive that the guys who do buck the trend are also guys named Brady, Brees, Rodgers, or even a guy like Phillip Rivers. Basically, guys who are either HOF caliber, have had years in the same offense with most of the same players, and established years ago that they are their teams best weapon and their organizations built accordingly. Other guys may buck the trend every once in a while, but it wouldn't be trend if they did all the time. It's ridiculous to expect a second year QB to do that all the time, especially considering the terrible line which was so even before two of its starters were off the team, and yet Tannehill did that not once, not twice, but three times to start the year. Him failing to best the trend right now is simply regression to the mean that even guys like Luck and Russell Wilson would suffer.
     
  31. Heinegrabber

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    If anyone should have had any rushing yards it should have been RT especially when we were in the red zone.
     
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    Damn it man 'trickeration' IS NOT A WORD.. 'trickery' however is.. however good summary
     
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    I'm impressed you are doing research on points per pass attempt. I remember the first time I mentioned that stat on the air on Las Vegas radio in 1988. The entire viewing audience in the Stardust sportsbook was silent and puzzled because they had never heard it before. But the host Arnie Lang was quickly jotting it down.

    I had an early edge on lots of categories. I took advantage but probably not as much as I should have. The problem is, once you uncover something good you keep looking for an angle that's better yet, or some type of combination. Once I had a computer in the early '90s and figured out how to make Excel spreadsheets, I was researching dozens of new angles every night. I remember my Quadra 610 with a 25 Mhz processor took more than 20 minutes to calculate. Now I wish I had kept everything more simple.
     
  34. Sean

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    Tannehill was solid for what the situation was with the running game. He's showing poise in the pocket, but maybe too much as to where he doesn't scramble out of it. He is throwing a lot of "NFL" throws, but lacks deep accuracy. If tannehill had deep accuracy he'd easily be a top 10 QB. That being said, this Miami team, as many stated, lacks the killer instinct. It's an 8-8 team, simply said. Stick a fork in us, we are done. I hope I can eat my words with this last statement, but it almost seems as though we play up to our level of competition, regardless of how the media portrays the situation at hand. We need that killer instinct. We need the coach that will fire a team up CONSISTANTLY. Same with the GM. If we get the proper management and staff, we have the potential for a playoff team. But, as of right now, I don't see it even with the AFCE being as weak as it is this year, which blows because a possible 9-7 team could get the WC this year.
     
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    Sorry. Idc if Tannehill should have ran the ball instead of throwing for Hartline. It doesn't mean he should be leading the team in rushing w/ 2 yards. 13 carries for 0 yards for our backs in inexcusable for any rushing attack.
     
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    Were DONE. In the running for the Playoffs?? what a joke! we are out like a boner in sweatpants.
     
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    I'm sorry but at this point I don't see how we can have the word "positive and "Dolphins" in the same sentance. There's nothing positive about our team at this point. How can we get 2 weeks to get ready to play te last place Bills and lose tht game......then we get 10 days to prepared to play the winless bucs and yet again lay an egg? I like Philbin as a person but this guy will not take us to the superbowl. The need to ghet rid of Ireland and Philbin and for those who say they don't want us to start again, I really don't care about that. This team is NOT going in the right direction and I'm sick of it. Keeping everyone in place just cause you don't want to make changes is stupid. This is NOT working and you need to change it now. Ireland has put a team together with no heart. They make no big plays, they can't tackle and they can't block ad we have a coaching staff that acts as if everything is fine. Then you got players telling us how close they are. So what? You're not winning.I will always root for my Dolphins but last nigh was a disgrace.

    Ozzy rules!!
     
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    I am shocked about how unenergized the team was last night.
     
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    Here's my assessment. The cliff notes version:

    Positives

    • They lost. Every loss drives another nail into the Ireland/Philbin regime coffin.
    • Tannehill is still able to walk.
    • The national spotlight is still shining bright on this joke of a franchise, making Ross even more embarrassed. Hopefully it inspires change.
    • We have the best punter in the league!!!!!!!!!!! Wooohoooo! Wannstache would be proud :rolleyes2:

    Negatives

    • We have to wait 5 months until the next draft.
    • We have no idea if Ross is getting good enough advisement in order to hire a great GM to clean up this toxic mess.
     
  40. Heinegrabber

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    Never said he should have lead anything never said our rushing attack was any good all I said was he had every oppertunnity to move the ball with his legs. Especially when wallace was doubled. If the idioits in the booth could not see that they should be fired.
     
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    It shouldn't shock you. That's what the Dolphins do. Win a game you don't expect them to win against Cincinnati and give the winless Bucs their first win of the season. SameOld. Dolphins.

    Oh yeah...almost forgot. Tannehill is accurate passing on the run and Sherman knows this. The entire world knows the OL is terrible, yet he keeps Tannehill in the pocket. Genius coaching. It's laughable.
     
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    I always appreciate how you can still make this post after every horrific performance the team puts out/displays on the field. I honestly think that in that 3rd and long near the end of the game where our D got hit with a personal foul that gave Tampa a new set of downs changed the outcome of this game. They went from what should of been a 3 and out and excellent field position for the Dolphins offense, to a long, time killing drive for the Bucs that ultimately resulted in a win for them.
     
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    Excellent recap as always.

    I didnt like the play calling after the Jimmy Wilson pick. Touchdown almost ices the game whereas a FG gives the Bucs hope and we saw what happened from there. There were a handful of times during the game where it just seemed like 3rd down was "don't screw up" rather than take a chance. I cant say for sure they were all designed plays but the 3rd and goal before the last FG (dump off to Clay) looked designed because it happened so fast. Maybe I'm wrong but I hate when you KNOW you need certain yardage and the play doesn't call for it. (i.e 3rd and 8 so lets throw a 5 yard slant and hope for yac.)
     
  44. Shouright

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    You actually have that framed in reverse. The "trend" is that passing efficiency is not related to running game variables, not that they are and poor ones are surmounted by only the best quarterbacks.

    In other words, there is no reason to believe that only the best quarterbacks can surmount a poor rushing performance in terms of passing efficiency.

    I think the better explanation for last night's game is that Tannehill is ill-equipped to carry the offense, and so the team is more reliant than other teams on a successful running game. When the running game isn't successful and/or isn't emphasized, that leaves the onus on Tannehill to carry the offense, and he's more often than not unable to do so.
     
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    No Killer Instinct.
     
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    I think Philbin is done.

    He does not make a difference.

    Look at what Reid, McCoy, and Rex Ryan have done. McCoy has re-energized an offense. He's brought a dynamic variable to their team that wasn't there before. Reid, on the other hand, has taken a dysfunctional group of talent and turned them into a solid group of performers. Reid's record is better, but I am actually more impressed with McCoy.

    Now Ryan... Say what you will about that team, but he gets the most out of his players. 2 examples. First, do you think Philbin could go to 2 AFC title games with Sanchez at QB? Second, he is coaching based on the strengths of his players. He isn't forcing them to do what he wants. He is doing what they need.

    Anyway, I don't see anything from this group of coaches that demonstrates great coaching. We have a talented group of DL and we are getting hammered with the running game. We can't get to a QB to save our lives. We get 2 personal fouls, 1 of which directly impacted the outcome of the game. We get the ball deep in enemy territory, and we go conservative -- to not lose.

    Ross' endorsement as a HC was not particularly glowing, in my opinion. He's the most organized person? I get that a HC is a manager. But he is also a coach, and a guy who sets the tone for the entire direction of the football operation. I don't want a CPA coaching the team. I want a guy who brings something to the table. How many times have we seen images of Belichik talking to his D and making adjustments after they give up points?

    Philbin was coaching for his job last night. Scratch that. Philbin was watching for his job last night. He needed his team to win decisively and aggressively. The only aggression I saw was when Pouncey punched someone.
     
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    What is with Miami's inability to run screens? Doesn't matter the coach or players, I cant remember the last successful screen this team ran yet our opponents run them at will against us.
     

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