Hoops scoops...jets fins

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  1. hoops

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    I don't know what's worse....geno smith or dee milliner...I do know that they are both disasters...nice picks jets
    :lol:

    Having said that Ryan tannehill played his worst half of the season...he left plays on the field a plenty...

    got hit on a ball that would have been better placed on a vertical had he been able to follow thru to marlon Moore who blew by milliner like he was flat footed on the play where the way milliner let him just go by It made me wonder if he expected deep help and didn't get it...ok the hit probably made that ball go out of bounds...

    but threw a ball in the tight red on 4th down no less that he has to put where clay can at least make a play balls out of bounds unacceptable...clays open it's a difficult throw to place but dammit it has to be in bounds

    missed hartline on a win at the Los where hartline gives him the hand over the top if balls out in front it's an easy td milliner got used at the Los on the play instead tanny on 4th and 1 throws it back shoulder into the beat defender...poor post snap read and placement on a win from the jump by hartline...

    took a sack where he had plenty of time to go thru progressions double clutched twice and ran right into it got to throw the ball away there...that's on the qb

    bill cowher said he was too mechanical off his first half look and I totally agree tannehill was robotic with everything he did...did not like the half from our qb...moved the ball down the field with ease off presnap reads but left plays a high end qb makes on the field...

    in the 2nd half he was better but was a benefactor of sone poor tackling by the jets...milliners awful but cromartie was obvious was ailing all game long it was pitch and catch in front of him...poor tackle on a slant to hartline for a 31 yard td where oh so washed up Ed reed was the safety help...Ed reed should have hung em up after Houston cut him...he was a disaster there and he was awful today with the jets...the guys done...

    mike Wallace effort on the cro pick was a wtf moment...pretty much none to impede the ball from coming down to cro...that said the wrs used up this beat up and poor playing wear a target cb unit of the jets all game long...

    ahh more 3rd and less than 1 ball back to the rb for failed conversions by the oc today...made an adjustment to more shotgun on those downs in the 2nd half or 4th downs but this teams laughed at when it goes to a rb on goalline and short yardage...

    Lamar miller with some run thru contact on the inside but got blasted by pouncey in the first half for running out of bounds short of the sticks instead of taking it up field for the conversion...good to see pouncey chew his *** out for taking the easy way out...rest of game he went more north and south on the sideline...

    I thought overall the interior oline did a pretty good job with sone straight wreckers in Wilkerson and Richardson...they had their moments but they didn't beat us either...that interior jets dline is legit folks...

    nice job to run the ball more against an offense that could do nothing even if we didn't run for real yardage...we kept the jets defense honest and limited their blitz opportunities...

    the d did exactly what a good unit is suppose to do...shut down that bs qb and offense...hell even our lb play did not get exposed cause the gameplan was so simple...fill your gaps be where you should be vs easy read run looks and be ready for the screen game on 3rd and long...

    dannell ellerbe I think that was the best game In coverage I have seen from him all year...was around the ball a lot...wheeler even was solid today vs that bs offense and misi has gotten better in coverage In the flats this year...won't be as easy for this unit next week though...totally different level qb and I suspect we will see some extra OT fronts to assist the run game...

    Olivier Vernon the star of the game up front shifted inside in obvious pass sets and was way too quick for the interior oline players of the jets...did a nice job maintaining run responsibilities and gap control and then disengaging from the lt in the first quarter for his pa sack also...

    Nolan Carroll got hurt I thought he had gotten his hand crushed on a tackle where the help came late and dove into his hand luckily he came back cause despite Matt Simms and his only making one read on every play will davis was wearing a target...only points jets got was on a play where Davis in off coverage got turned around on a long to the sticks conversion vs a possession wr....

    caleb sturgis...you suck...not done costing this team...I can see that

    Finally u guys need to get off Joe philbin...thus team has not folded after the pansy Jon Martin cried wolf and made a big to do about nothing...even though the media wanted it to happen...I applaud this hc for his teams game prep and effort...that is what a hc is responsible for...this team doesn't lose because of effort or being ready to play it loses cause of personnel deficiencies...it's your gm with his poor drafts and poor free agent spending every year it seems who deserves to walk the plank...

    at Pitt next week gonna be quite the test...the qb will have to be better no doubt about it...but it sure is nice to face em likely down to their 4th string tackles...cam wake I'm talking to you dion Jordan and Olivier Vernon...
     
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    Phinatic8u Adam ****ing Gase

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    I saw some YAC Touchdowns..

    Been missing that since forever with this team.
     
  3. WVDolphan

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    So Tannehill was hot garbage in the first half and played decent in the 2nd half while being the beneficiary of some terrible defense in the secondary. Thats what I saw as well.

    So unlike Tannehill's performance, this was your best hoops scoops of the season. You kept it real.

    Also, sadly this was one of Tannehill's best games as of late. And we still managed a whopping 23 points vs a defense that will get shredded over the next few weeks. There were well over 40 points to be scored out there today and we barely got half of that.
     
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    Phinatic8u Adam ****ing Gase

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    Sounds a lot like Matt Ryan.
     
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    Oh would ya look at this?


    [video=youtube;HqIBNX0CXDc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqIBNX0CXDc[/video]
     
  7. hoops

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    It was not one of tannehills best games...I call em like I see em and this was his worst half all season...not close really...that said I don't expect that to continue...funny thing is though he can make throws to move the ball right down the damn field...but he's got to hit his good decision and read balls that are there for big plays or it doesn't matter...

    All the right reads and decisions don't matter if you don't convert...
     
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    And if they watched any ed reed tape at all this year they would have known short of you just giving it away he cannot get there anymore and should be attacked...if the pa post to hartline tannehill did not pull the trigger cause ed reed was in coverage he must have been looking at tape from years ago...you got to attack those jets safeties in man coverage
     
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    I find it hilarious now that people are discrediting him for his WRs for making plays..

    I know people don't like him, but seriously..
     
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    Oline is playing better too. Tannys not getting sacked 7 times a game. I remember Gardner having a real nice block springing miller.
     
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    I gained a lot of respect for you with this hoops scoops. On paper, it appears Tannehill played well. Fact is he was absolutely terrible in the first half and decent in the 2nd half. Some of the worst secondary play I have seen at the NFL level from the Jests today, especially in the 2nd half. Youre right..... Ed Reed is finished. :lol: As you would say, the Jests picked up Ed Reed's corpse.

    While most are running around with semen on their chins acting like Tannehill beasted today, you kept it real. Props to you.

    Now if you will just admit how horrible he was in that Buffalo game and how his play killed us in that one, costing us the game, we will be getting somewhere.

    All of that stuff you point out where he left big plays and points on the field today..... he has been doing that most of the year ya know. The sack taking.... same thing.
     
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    Gardner hasn't been with this team since 2009...
     
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    Lol. Yeah. Apple spell correct.
     
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    He had a bad quarter vs the bills...that quarter and this half the worst I have seen from tannehill all year...even the saints first half made more sense...but he is a 2nd year qb still far from a finished product...and be still puts up numbers even when he has a bad half etc...and for my study those are rare...

    I do believe Matt Simms will be better In the finale...he was thrown in the fire today and we sat on his first reads and lack of eye discipline...
     
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    Phinatic8u Adam ****ing Gase

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    Andrew Luck has LEFT alot on the field since he lost Wayne.

    Is he bad?
     
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    You know whats really sad... Its that you seem so happy to point out he wasn't good today... come on man...
     
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    Phinatic8u Adam ****ing Gase

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    He's also so inconsistent with his babble.

    Contradicts himself a lot. Quite hilarious.
     
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    You mean the Matt Ryan who dropped 34 on the Bills today? Tannehill may not score 34 in 2 games combined vs. the Bills.
     
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    The QB doesn't score 34, the ****ing team does.
     
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    :lol:

    Matt Ryan had 1 td pass and WV said HE dropped 34
     
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    Troll
     
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    I think Ryan Tannehill averages 1 TD pass per game for his career.
     
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    Sure, good deflection

    Get outta here with this bull****.
     
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    Jets unlike Carolina gave us a lot of 2 deep safety looks...limited our opportunities to get Wallace vertical...Carolina only team I have seen give so many single coverage 8 in the box looks to us...and with a non burner cb no less

    Miami had to run the ball today at times vs those looks...jets decided they could limit our run with 7 and for the most part they were right...I think Carolina gave us too much respect in that regard and they payed for it with 2 big vertical plays to Wallace...
     
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    You guys are deflecting in every thread by bringing up Matty Ice all of the time. This is the first time Ive bothered responding.

    Its ridiculous to bring up an established winner at QB. If we had Matty Ice we wouldve won the division this year and had a shot at homefield throughout the playoffs.

    You want to talk about a guy carrying his whole team..... Matt Ryan has close to the worst defense in the league. Tannehill has damn near the best.
    You guys talk about OL.... fact is our OL is decent. The sack totals are due to Tannehill being garbage. We should be around the league average in sacks. Atlanta on the other hand has damn near the worst OL in the league.
    All of that combined with the sickening amount of injuries that team had on offense and defense and its no wonder Matty Ice will see his first losing season. Tannehill is staring at his 2nd in as many years. Matty Ice lost his best WR, his other good WR missed several games and played injured all year, his starting RB is just starting to play as well. Look for Matty Ice to bounce back next season with a monster season.
     
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    Let's be real wv...the only reason you are not pimping Matty ice and the falcons this year is cause well they suck and the qbs underperformed despite the injuries and poor d...

    We don't have the best d we have some of the worst lb play in football to my eyes at least and Ryan still has some guys he could do more with...is he up against it? Yes...but he's also a 6th year player making max money I think it's fair to say the qb if he's as legit as you say he is needs to overcome some of it...and 3 and 9 says that's not the case

    IMO there's a lack of leadership at the qb position that shows itself at times in atlanta
     
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    We certainly do not have damn near the best defense in the league. And our Oline is far from decent (although theyre playing much better the last few weeks). Sure tho, Tanehill has better supporting talent (although its really not that far off) and he has double the wins. Sounds about right.
     
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    Oh yeah, just look at all those playoff wins, championships, and Super Bowl banners Matt Ryan has put up in Altanta......oh wait......

    :lol: :lol: :lol:
     
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    Sounds like what Tannehill had to contend with last season..except he turned a natural #2 or #3 WR into a 1000 yard producer. Henne seems to be doing as well as, if not better than Melty this year with maybe even less to work with. Go figure :idk:

    But I digress. I'll admit when I saw the score was tied at 24 in the 3rd quarter my first reaction was "well this is where Melty disappears, especially in cold weather." But then I remembered that the 2nd half choke gene doesn't kick in until it actually means winning or going home in the playoffs, that he's playing a meaningless game in the scheme of things and that he's not facing playoff-calibre teams. :idk:

    You don't get offensively shut out in a whole postseason game, get shut out in the second half of a playoff game (2 if you count the ACC championship) or score 24 whole points in 5 2nd halfs (6 if you want to count the ACC championship) going 1-4 (or 1 in 5 if you want to count the ACC game) by accident, coincidence or as an anomaly. And you don't ignore that reality unless you're busy fluffing Melty's nether regions.

    IMO it's perfectly valid to continue to bring it up, pointing out your refusal to acknowledge that he sucks when it counts most as a commentary on your "objectivity" when it comes to Tannehill. If you can't see one reality, I question you're seeing one that's really another .

     
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    WV keeps failing. That's keeping it real.
     
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    Nice recap Hoops... This was your first recap sans Thill excuse making.
     
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    Yes he does. Believe it or not (for the new guys) at one time WV was a pretty decent poster.
     
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    An elite QB (which is exactly what you pimp "Matty Ice" in being) would never finish with 3 total wins (lol) through 75% of the season. Brady had a MUCH worse off season then Matt Ryan, and he leads his division yet again. Ryan has the same caliber supporting cast as Tannehill did last season on offense. I'll give you an "attaboy" sticker if Matty finishes 2013 with 7 wins as Tannehill did his rookie season in an eerily similar situation.
     
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    I knew you would jump in the second I responded to the Matt Ice trolling attempts. You have been waiting patiently and trying REAL HARD.

    However, I did not read your response that I quoted here.

    Matt Ryan is a god damned beast at QB. And christ knows we could use some guys with character like Matty Ice. Again, with Matt Ryan at QB, this is a 11-14 win team this season.

    ---------- Post added at 08:11 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:10 PM ----------

    Thats what I noticed as well. Odd considering how hard the rest of the Tannehill fluffers are today after a nice stats day.
     
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    came for the hoops scoops.


    WV getting owned was a nice bonus.
     
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    Why would Tannehill need any excuses when we won 23-3?
     
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    agree with wv , with good qb play we beat buffalo-tb-carolina and the cheats. by saying that im pinning too much of the blame on him but he left numerous big plays on the field in those games and his mistakes were the difference. hopefully he starts running more and improving his deep throws. this has been a very frustrating season in that there is no way in hell we should be 6-6!
     

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