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hoops scoops...potential #19 pick lb ryan shazier tale of the tape...

beanh8er said:
Tackles don't really mean anything. ESPECIALLY in the college game. T More useful statistics would be averages.

Give me instincts at the LB position anyday. I want another Zach Thomas back there.
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Average what? Trips to the trainer?? Yep ya got me there. Mosley wins that one hands down.
 
KTOWNFINFAN said:
Then you certainly don't want CJ. Mosley. He isn't anything near a Zack Thomas. Borland is closer to Zach than is Mosley. Mosley is more along the lines of a slow, smaller, less productive Rolando McClain.
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The only thing that Borland and Thomas have in common is they are under size and white...

Mosley doesn't have to be Thomas....very few will ever be that good, but he does have the intangible for the position....if it were not for his injury concerns he would probably go top 15.
 
ConvenientTruth said:
The only thing that Borland and Thomas have in common is they are under size and white...

Mosley doesn't have to be Thomas....very few will ever be that good, but he does have the intangible for the position....if it were not for his injury concerns he would probably go top 15.
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Personally I hope he does go top 15. As long as we don't trade up.
 
KTOWNFINFAN said:
Average what? Trips to the trainer?? Yep ya got me there. Mosley wins that one hands down.
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Man you suck at discussing football players without making really bitchy posts. It's so cute when you offer nothing to the discussion. Alabama had averaged 2 minutes more with the ball per game. That might effect bulk stats. Also you don't address schematic differences. Mosley dealt with lead blockers a lot more than Shazier ever did.
 
MP-Omnis said:
Re: Vernon Shazier. That's cool. I didn't know that. Is he some kind of protestant reverend? I know the Catholic chaplain is Fr. Alvarez. That's certainly something to think about for draft day. I wonder how much it will play into Hickey's process.




It's a message board, not Twitter. I was just asking if he could change format. Hardly grammar police. Guess I'm just used to boards that hold members to a higher standard. Sorry for bringing the topic off track with all of this.
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You are used to boards that police posters' grammar? Sounds like some horrible message boards, unless they are English grammar message boards, of course. Actually, those sound horrible too.

As for Shazier's father, I had no idea. Interesting connection.
 
Gonzo said:
You are used to boards that police posters' grammar? Sounds like some horrible message boards, unless they are English grammar message boards, of course. Actually, those sound horrible too.

As for Shazier's father, I had no idea. Interesting connection.
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You really should switch to a format in which posts are submitted for approval to make sure they meet a certain standard.
 
ConvenientTruth said:
You really should switch to a format in which posts are submitted for approval to make sure they meet a certain standard.
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That might work on tiny sites with only a few members, but never on a site like this. The staff already has plenty of do, especially considering we are all volunteers. Well, except NY. I think all he does in hunt and watch porn. Still, that leaves a limited amount of time for FH.
 
Gonzo said:
That might work on tiny sites with only a few members, but never on a site like this. The staff already has plenty of do, especially considering we are all volunteers. Well, except NY. I think all he does in hunt and watch porn. Still, that leaves a limited amount of time for FH.
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Shazier was a productive LB folks. It's not as though he is a workout warrior. In fact, I love that his athleticism meets his production. Good player.
 
Shazier, Mosley, Fuller, James, Moses and ASJ are the last names I am down to at 19. Not a news flash...

I do think Dennis takes a less than spectacular package and bails out of the first round.
 
beanh8er said:
Man you suck at discussing football players without making really bitchy posts. It's so cute when you offer nothing to the discussion. Alabama had averaged 2 minutes more with the ball per game. That might effect bulk stats. Also you don't address schematic differences. Mosley dealt with lead blockers a lot more than Shazier ever did.
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Yeah you add so much. Mosley dealt with more lead blockers because why, you say so?? I didn't address schematic differences, when did you?? You just disproved your own point. You make two observations without backing either up with facts.
 
KTOWNFINFAN said:
Yeah you add so much. Mosley dealt with more lead blockers because why, you say so?? I didn't address schematic differences, when did you?? You just disproved your own point. You make two observations without backing either up with facts.
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:bobdole: I have a fact in the post. If you look hard enough, you might find it. Who knows? Maybe you'll even find the ability to talk about the football players!

Ohio State plays a 4-3 defense where Ryan Shazier plays the Will position or weakside linebacker. On the average run play, the Sam linebacker, the linebacker lined up on the TE, will usually attempt to take the TE on. During the same play, the Mike linebacker, the linebacker between the weakside and strongside linebacker, will have to face the lead blocking fullback. This leaves the Will linebacker, Ryan Shazier in this case, to tackle the running back from the backside which given his amazing athleticism he's quite adept at. When Will linebackers are tasked with going against blockers they usually fail as is the case with Shazier.

I just watched most of his game against Michigan State, and he made one play where he ran the RB down from the backside, but other than that he was invisible. He even gave up the game sealing touchdown by getting washed out by a guard. There's a reason why every scout says that CJ Mosley is the best LB in the draft right now and not Ryan Shazier. (Hint: It's not because you're smarter than them)

Alabama plays a 3-4 defense where CJ Mosley plays the Mike position. In a 3-4 defense, the inside linebackers have to be able to play the role of a Sam linebacker in the 4-3 because they end up playing that role quite a bit. Now do you see the schematic difference or do I have still have to continue spelling it out for you like a child?

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KTOWNFINFAN said:
Once again I must admit my lack of pedigree in this area.
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Stick to what you know because it's obviously not this.
 
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If ktownfinfan hates Mosley then Mosley will probably be the best player in the entire draft.
 
Gonzo said:
You are used to boards that police posters' grammar? Sounds like some horrible message boards, unless they are English grammar message boards, of course. Actually, those sound horrible too.
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Gonzo said:
That might work on tiny sites with only a few members, but never on a site like this.
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Not really, but there is an expectation that you at least try. Too much laziness is punished, and it raises the quality as a result. We have near a quarter million members and are closing in on 10 million posts over more than ten years on the board I most frequent, so it's really just about the standard you set. But you guys have the VIP section for standards, I'm sure. Anyway, I was just making a kind request (to hoops, not the staff) so there's no need to be a jerk about it.

Now onto more Shazier swooning...
 
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