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hooshoops said:
of course if we go into free agency and lets say grab a greg jennings my thoughts would change with the high 1st rounder...
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This would be the ideal situation. Greg Jennings, Hartline, and Bess isn't too shabby. Then maybe you add a guy like Steadman Bailey in the 2nd or a Ryan Swope in the 3rd etc...and hope Rishard Mattews can develop.

We need a pass rusher in the worst way...I really like Lemonier out of Auburn...explosive and athletic. I also like James Gayle just not in the high first round right now.

I think TE is becoming an emerging need for us. Tannehill needs a reliable TE...and I like Fasano but he's basically a ghost in the passing game. Clay just isn't where I thought he'd be..and until Egnew gets himself on the active roster we have to assume he's not performing. Id be looking for the best pass catching TE available in the 2nd or 3rd round.

At safety...I really really like Whitley and Vaccaro. Both who I think could be options in the 2nd round.

Basically we have plenty of options to go...and I think this defense is a few pieces away from being elite..get them another edge rusher and another safety who can find the ball they will be just fine. However, this team is going to live and die with Tannehill. My priority is surrounding him with as many weapons as possible to continue his development. This team could be scary next year if everything falls into place.
 
I can't tell you how nice it is to be reading about the draft and not having to discuss the QB position. About time.

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hooshoops said:
not really seeing a cb that i'd take with our high 1st round pick...no one that just jumps off the screen at me...jarvis jones against tennessee didn't look like a top 5 worthy pick to me either...but that was just one game...i doubt he's a legitimate 6 ft 2 and that medical with that severe neck injury he suffered may hurt him...gonna be some serious eyeballing of his neck xrays etc at the combine...whatever happens with him that kids a lb all the way...there's no possible 43 end there

at safety more importantly free safety i think the value falls in rounds 2-3...in that range is where i'd target one...probably where i'd target my corner also...

not really all that in love with a woerner or a montgomery with our high round 1 pick...not enough explosive edge burst pass rush upside with either imo to warrant it given our needs at the positon...which is almost all pass rush

leaning towards a wr high in round 1 the way things are looking...keenan allens size and tools are hard to find...might be the best route...not sure i think he warrants a top 10 pick or so but there's only a few guys i would take over him...not in love with the quality or depth of this draft...i guess high round 1 quality given we aren't looking for a qb i see as lacking...feels good though not to have to spend so much time looking at qbs...

of course if we go into free agency and lets say grab a greg jennings my thoughts would change with the high 1st rounder...
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Miami needs to take the BPA that is not a QB . . . hopefully a DE (pass rusher), WR or DB, but I wouldn't exclude linebacker, oline or DT from the list either. Miami needs impact guys but they most certainly need better depth all over. I will say this is a GREAT year to have multiple 2nd and 3rd round picks as I agree that its starting to look like the "value" of the draft will be had on Day 2. I have seen threads talking about Miami trading away those picks and either getting a player or moving back into the 1st . . . . no, no no . . . if anything if Miami doesn't feel a guy they want is there at their selection in round 1, they need to trade back and pick up another 2nd day pick or 2 . . . . . build the depth of this team.

I still wanna see guys like Vernon, Miller, Matthews and hopefully Egnew develop further. It will also be interesting to see who we resign and who do we target in FA. This team could look extremely promising come next year after FA and the draft.
 
This defensive end class is too talented to ignore. Two more guys I was just looking at the other day that kind of blew me away were Quanterus Smith of Western Kentucky and Walter Stewart of Cincinnati. Incidentally, what the hell do they put in the water at Cincinnati. They keep producing these unusually explosive defensive linemen.

Stewart has sticks of dynamite in his ankles and Smith is just brutal and relentless with good use of hands as a pass rusher, and the ability to be an every down defensive end.
 
What I like about Terrance Williams is he's a true perimeter specialist. He's got the speed and RAC ability to do some damage from the slot, but he seems less comfortable there and it seems to me like a higher percentage of his drops come from his work there. But on the perimeter, what I like is that in that Art Briles system with his insanely wide WR splits, this compresses the space that Terrance Williams has to win on the outside. He's got a smaller highway between the coverage and the sideline, but he seems perfectly comfortable with using every inch of the field available to him and negotiating the sideline. He's got the size/speed to where you'd really better watch out if you're trying to single cover him deep on a streak. But he also gets open for comebacks and out breaking routes.

With the wide splits in Briles' offense I tend to think of the slot players as the ones that benefit a little more as the splits give them almost a CFL field to work with. Those are just my thoughts on the matter.
 
Quanterus Smith really is a terrific player. I've talked about him for a while going back to my underrated Seniors thread. I watched him beat us for 3 sacks in Bryant Denny because we couldn't block him. He's one of those players that I make it a point to go back and watch every week.

Willie Taggert is one of the most underrated coaches in college football, and I see within his players on both sides of the ball. Western Kentucky is the most fundamentally sound football team in the Sun-Belt conference, and one of the 10 best coached teams in the entire country week in and week out. Coach Taggert will get a big head coaching job when he wants it.

If I were an SEC team like Kentucky that needs a good, solid developer of talent and a good recruiter, Taggert would be at the top. Kentucky would play a competitive brand of SEC football under a guy like Taggert.
 
Hoops is this a weak QB class? Not saying the Dolphins are in the market, I'm just asking about it's relative strength compared to previous classes.

To me it appears that way at the top, because I know a lot of you have your reservations about Geno Smith, & I think Matt Barkley has probably underwhelmed compared to most people's expectations. I'm also not sure how crazy you guy's are about Tyler Wilson & Tyler Bray.
 
You could throw Logan Thomas & Landry Jones in there as well I guess.
 
found me an offensive tackle that i really like in the event we let jake long walk after the season...jake matthews of texas a & m looks like a perfect fit for our offense and a plug and play right tackle...he's got plus feet good athleticism and movement skills can get to the 2nd level and make solid sustained contact...i see a very aware tackle when he combo blocks initially on the inside he has the awareness and feet to come off and pick up delayed edge rushers no problem...really good looking player...sits down well in pass pro...able to recover and anchor rarely off balance...i think people are sleeping on this kid...

1st round grade for me...someone i think is gonna rise come draft eval time...and someone i bet mike sherman is gonna vouge for if jake exits...i'd like to get him high round 2 but i don't know that you can wait off what i see...

his teammate joeckels a stud also but we're not sniffing that given where we are gonna finish...i see prototype left tackle stuff there...big fan of both these tackles
 
I will look out for him, im watching the game now.............
 
k states arthur brown is an undersized instinctual mike backer that i view as terrific depth and potential starter down the line should dansby exit...only a 43 fit due to his size might be 6 ft might be 230 lbs brown has the instincts first and foremost you look for...reads his keys very well looks like a student of the game to me his diagnosis and tracking of the ball abilities are high end...shoots gaps in run support a very dependable tackler and packs a punch can run and find work can sift through traffic and make plays on the ball good speed can cover down the seam and underneath and limits rac i don't quite have him as explosive a prospect as i did nebraskas lavonte david last year despite the similar size but i see arthur brown as a terrific selection with one of those 3rd round picks and a steal if his size dropped him any further...frankly only reason i think he gets to the 3rd round is size...most 34 teams will not have him on their board as a base lb as a result

arthur brown is a player i would pound the table for with a 3rd round pick as a 43 mike backer and depth player...make no mistake about it...this team needs better quality lb depth...
 
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miss st cb jonathon banks possesses fantastic length and rediculous vine like arms and the best ball skills in the entire draft class at the position...i see some serious awareness with this kid...man or zone he looks very comfortable...at times it looks like he's peeking in the backfield a little too much and relying on his acceleration and long stride to recover but the ball skills and the way he plays the man and the ball are undeniable...i see some pretty good feet and he looks like while tackling is not gonna be a real strength he's a willing tackler and has some nastiness to him...

this is the one cb for me that i'd have to think long and hard about with our top pick if he got to me...i'm gonna be watching this kid closely at the combine to see what kind of long speed he has and at that length how much stiffness there is in his hips...i'm not seeing much change of direction looks pretty good love the feet love the length absolutely love the awareness and ball skills...

his teammate at safety nickoe whitley is a stick of damn dynamite...enforcer right there...looks like though at times he'll just drop his head and look for the kill shot and miss in space though...but cannot deny that guys a physical force...hips look pretty fluid also to me

bama miss st is a must watch next week fellas...
 
hooshoops said:
miss st cb jonathon banks possesses fantastic length and rediculous vine like arms and the best ball skills in the entire draft class at the position...i see some serious awareness with this kid...man or zone he looks very comfortable...at times it looks like he's peeking in the backfield a little too much and relying on his acceleration and long stride to recover but the ball skills and the way he plays the man and the ball are undeniable...i see some pretty good feet and he looks like while tackling is not gonna be a real strength he's a willing tackler and has some nastiness to him...

this is the one cb for me that i'd have to think long and hard about with our top pick if he got to me...i'm gonna be watching this kid closely at the combine to see what kind of long speed he has and at that length how much stiffness there is in his hips...i'm not seeing much change of direction looks pretty good love the feet love the length absolutely love the awareness and ball skills...

his teammate at safety nickoe whitley is a stick of damn dynamite...enforcer right there...looks like though at times he'll just drop his head and look for the kill shot and miss in space though...but cannot deny that guys a physical force...hips look pretty fluid also to me

bama miss st is a must watch next week fellas...
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Yes, yes, yes on Banks. He is a Coyle-type player, if you ask me.
 
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