Hot GM prospects for dolphins

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  1. MARLINSFAN305

    MARLINSFAN305 Well-Known Member

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    Here is an Article talking about GM prospects at the beggining of the year. It talks favorably about Brian Gaines as though he might have been more responsible for the Cowboys decent run on talent then Ireland. Only other one on list who got employed after article was mckenzie. So comment away who you think dolphins should go after.


    http://m.nfl.com/news/09000d5d825b843b/
     
  2. Sundance Kid

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    How about a GM who has Built a Super Bowl Team before?.....Just a Thought?
     
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    Like parcells?
     
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    Gaines would make most sense so we do not have to blow this thing up again with new coaches and systems. That is of course if Philbin and staff show some promise this year.
     
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    i like the gaines idea also bc of what you stated.
     
  6. Ryan1973

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    My first choice would be Eric DeCosta of the Ravens.
     
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    This,
     
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    IF we do not want to part ways with Philbin, I would think Brian Gaine or Russ Ball would be logical. I think Joe deserves three or four years to make an impact with Tannehill and his system. I do not want a coaching change anytime soon. A new and big time GM might want his own guy obviously.

    I like Gaine a lot and I cannot stress enough there is Kirk Ferentz with Gaine and Philbin. Both consider Ferentz as having a major influence in their football lives.
     
  9. kasaba13

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    My first choice would be to wait a little longer than week 1.
     
  10. Hayden Fox

    Hayden Fox Love Creating Turnovers Donator

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    My issue with Bill Polian is Peyton Manning is no longer a FA (I always thought if Ross had canned Ireland and hired Pollian we would have had a shot a Manning) and you will be saddled with Chris Polian.
     
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    The Falcons improved the same time that we initially improved (on the back of Chad Pennington). However, Atlanta has steadily improved the talent pool in the subsequent years, to the point where they now have few holes. They appear to draft consistently well and been prepared to give up a lot for uber talent, in Julio Jones. If Les Snead (Director of Player Personnel) has been a significant part of that, then he could be good. However, it may be the Falcon GM, Thomas Dimitroff, is the key to the steady improvement.
     
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    All you guys that want the "big time" GM are greasing the skids for Philbin to get the ax. I have been on record of wanting other candidates during the process. However, now that he is hired he should be allowed to let his system develop. He is has a QB he believes in and right or wrong Joe has a philosophy he believes in. A legit GM might give him a year, but if there is no success, he will want his own guy.

    You got to find a match with someone that knows Philbin in some capacity.
     
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    honestly look at flaccor ryan freeman sanchez stafford.... 4-5 years starting... they all had hard times you just have to stick it out. these players are STILL developing, taking on more responsibility ect ect. this can't be figrued out in 1 week or 1 year its minimum 3-4 years. unfortunately for henne it just didnt happen but had he been handled differently you NEVER know....

    tannehill can be good but hell never be like an alex smith right now or rodgers, hell be the kind of guy who turns the ball over a little more
     
  14. iwastherein72

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    ireland and gaine are fruit from the same poison tree. Clean house.
     
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    The grass isn't always greener. This thread is horrible.
     
  16. PJack

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    Then why are you here? Not like the title of the thread is confusing. Little early for the topic, but not out of the realm of possibility.
     
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    Eliot Wolf
    Has worked with the majority of this staff from Green Bay
    and is the son of Ron Wolf


    • Named director of pro personnel on May 23, 2012. First joined Packers in 2004 as a pro personnel assistant (2004-2008); named assistant director of pro personnel (2008-2010) and assistant director of player personnel (2011).
    • Currently the youngest director of pro personnel in the NFL.
    • The son of former Packers general manager Ron Wolf, Eliot’s scouting career unofficially began at age 10, when he joined his father in film sessions at Lambeau Field.
    • Has worked 20 consecutive Packers drafts (since 1993) and 20 consecutive NFL scouting combines.
    • Graduated from the University of Miami (Fla.) in December 2003 after just 3½ years in order to begin his NFL career before the 2004 NFL Draft.
    • Born in Oakland, Calif., is a 2000 high school graduate of Green Bay’s Notre Dame Academy.

    Eliot Wolf enters his ninth season with the Packers and first as the director of pro personnel after being promoted on May 23, 2012. Prior to his current role, Wolf spent the 2011 season as the team’s assistant director of player personnel and the previous three seasons as assistant director of pro personnel (2008-2010).


    Originally named as a pro personnel assistant on Feb. 26, 2004, by then-General Manager/Head Coach Mike Sherman, Wolf spent four seasons in that position.
    Currently the youngest pro personnel director in the NFL, his primary duties include scouting teams in the NFL and in-season advance scouting of upcoming Packers opponents. Wolf also is involved with college scouting during the season and is very active in the Packers draft.


    He’s also worked 20 consecutive Packers drafts (since 1993), and nine NFL scouting internships — five with the Packers, three with the Atlanta Falcons and one with the Seattle Seahawks. Wolf has attended 20 consecutive NFL scouting combines.

    Thoughts??
     
  18. biggiesmalls3k1

    biggiesmalls3k1 How Bout Them Fins?!

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    I'd sign up in a millisecond for Eliot Wolf or Eric DeCosta. People are getting too worried about the effects of a new GM...Ireland HAS to get shown the door, he has continued to crap all over any semblance of a competitive team and is the man directly responsible for the lack of talent we have on this team, short of a .500 or better record this season, he's done nothing to IMPROVE this team, he's pawned off all of our issues on Ross as coaching problems while he's skated by despite records that have regressed under his watch. If Philbin is a casualty to that then so be it, in today's NFL there has been MANY examples of quick rebuilds, not this 6 year plan that Ireland is apparently on, the 49ers were a team at our level and the addition of Harbaugh and Balkee, guys that can actually acquire talent and draft correctly has turned them into a legitimate contender, even making everyone forget how horrible of a QB Alex Smith was for 7 years running...

    I have little doubt that we will NOT be negatively impacted by getting rid of Ireland, the guy has ZERO plan, he trades away any of our legitimate players and doesn't have the foresight to replace them, in fact, he seems to create more holes than we had as time passes, he has no clue how to put together a competitive team in today's NFL IMO...bring in someone who values the skill positions please...
     
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    What team did Parcells build as the GM? Refresh my memory.
     
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  21. Shipcity24

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    Butch Davis please
     
  22. biggiesmalls3k1

    biggiesmalls3k1 How Bout Them Fins?!

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    LMAO Butch Davis??? I want him with UM, he's not cut out for the NFL...
     
  23. Spesh

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    Pleased in a completely irrelevant way that two of the people ive been bringing up recently are named. Russ Ball and Scot McCloughan.

    Ball's an unknown, but McCloughan by and large built the current 49'ers team. We can do alot worse then drafting Patrick Willis, Vernon Davis, Frank Gore, etc.
     
  24. CedarPhin

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    Not a chance the Niners would let him go, and why would he leave there for here? They're moving into a new stadium in the next few seasons, their team is successful, he's got it made there.
     
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    Lol, do u know where he is right now? Go take a look at the bucs draft this year.
     
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    If your talking about McCloughan, he was fired before the 13-3 season. "Personal reasons". He was going through a divorce when the 49'ers fired him, but apparently he was blindsided(and fans, players) when he was let go. No one knows the exact reason why he was let go and he refuses to speak publically about it. Trent Baalke is their new GM. McCloughan currently works for the Seahawks and was in the running for the Raiders job before they went for Reggie McKenzie(a former Raiders player).

    McCloughan was open to working with new coaches, having been given the general manager job at the same time Nolan was hired as coach and going with Jed York in hiring Mike Singletary.

    Now that ive praised him openly, watch him get hired by the Dolphins and start trading away picks for Matt Leinhart or something.
     
  27. biggiesmalls3k1

    biggiesmalls3k1 How Bout Them Fins?!

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    Honestly...at this point I think I'd rather have freaking Carl Peterson. Ireland seems to me like he's been afforded opportunities to clean up his own mess and we've experienced a talent and overall team regression since he's gotten here...his talent evaluation is atrocious to say the least...I can only speculate that Ross is really oblivious and has Ireland whispering BS into his ear...
     
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    I think it is time we move away from the Cowturds, Parcells, Sparano and the rest of them retreads. I think George Paton, the Viking's Asst GM would be a nice fit here. He worked for Spielman and the Phins back in 2001, and has lots of scouting experience, and a great reputation.
     
  29. biggiesmalls3k1

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    Also, we shouldn't ignore the bevy of picks and over $50 Million in Cap space that we have this upcoming offseason. It would sure be nice to have someone at the helm that knows what to do with all that. Another strike against Ireland is our current dire cap situation and our crappy roster, there's no way he deserves to have a chance to spend some of that newfound cap room next offseason...
     
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    Butch is a defensive consultant for the Bucs...he had nothing to do with the Bucs draft. What's freakin hilarious with Butch is that in his first season as a head coach of the Browns he didn't take a single player from UM...he took a DL from UF...Warren I believe, who was a bust. He might have been able to recruit talent to UM and coach them up but he didn't have a clue how to evaluate talent for an NFL team.
     
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    I don't think Ireland gets fired to be honest with you. Last year he was searching for players to fit a different scheme. This year he's looking for different types of skill sets. Add coaching to the mix, and it creates instability, and a lack of direction and identity on the roster.

    I believe Ireland will have one more year with Philbin and his staff through the draft.

    Just putting it out there because it's just as a real option as getting rid of him.
     
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    I vote for a tag-team for GM - Mike Lombardi + Matt Millen = guaranteed super bowl :rolleyes2:
     
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    I'll take Belichick as the new GM...:hump:
     
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    Unfortunately this seems plausible and the logic sound... But I truly hope your wrong and bring in a GM with West Coast offensive knowledge.
     
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    He will have 50 million dollars in cap space and unless changes are made a top 5 pick. There isn't a GM in or out of football who wouldn't take that.
     
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    Eliot Wolf.
     
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    Why are we still *****footin around with old cowboys trash can someone please tell me what makes them so much better than anyone else or better yet how many championships have they won in the last 10 years. We need somebody who k ows real talent and not some jerry jones nut sucking ****
     
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    And no Ross is such and incompetent about the ggame football he will keep Ireland because he is to stupid to see that we suck so bad
     
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    Eliot Wolf please.
     
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    Russ Ball has been a guy I have consistently liked. Nick Caserio is interesting as well.
     

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