How improve at WR , FA or Draft ?

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  1. fastball83

    fastball83 Seasoned Veteran

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    Hello,

    We need a n°1 WR, if the trifecta has the same thinking, how they will improve that IYO, in FA or draft ?

    MO is in draft, TJ houz will request too much money and we have others need in FA.

    So, in the draft, with our second rounder we could go Robiskie, britt, or barden.

    What is your opinions on themp and who is your favorite ?

    thanks
     
  2. LibertineOneThree

    LibertineOneThree English Fin

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    I'm practically in love with Barden but don't think he represents great value at round 2. If he slipped into 3, I'd gladly trade a late rounder or a 2010 pick to move up and get him early on day 2.

    Our top three picks should, in my opinion be spent on a LB, DB and NT, in no particular order, depending on BPA.

    I imagine though, that we'll probaby go for lineman with two of those three picks, probably replacing Carey, which I believe is a shame. We already have holes. Resign Carey instead of creating another one.
     
  3. skipp2myloo13

    skipp2myloo13 Rookie

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    neither stick with what we got and we will win, receiver is NEVER a need!
     
  4. MDFinFan06

    MDFinFan06 Fins4life

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    what are peoples opinions with kipers pick of hayword bey?
     
  5. JimToss

    JimToss Thank You Chad Pennington

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    My opinion on Kiper is he is an absolute fool.
     
  6. syborg

    syborg Rookie

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    I think that with CAmarillo, Bess, Ginn and London we have our core. .

    Camarillo is by far our best receiver right now
    Bess fights for yardage after the catch and does not miss or drop many balls put his way
    Ginn has begin to show this last season some glimpses of the receiver he could be and the potential for which he was drafted so high. . hopefully this can develop next season and he can come into his own
    London is a guy with good, big hands who fights for the ball and shows good poise using his body to get the ball and desrves his shot next season. . he has sure hands. .

    I think we will use a low end pick and poss a FA pick up for a vet who can mentor these younger guys into great shape. .

    None of these guys are OUTSTANDING in relation to Boldin etc but as a unit I feel could see us well with the right QB in place and Pennington (for now) is that man. . a sure arm and accurate and these WRs need that.

    We are fine at WR (IMHO) I look forward to next season. .
     
  7. nosleep

    nosleep Resident GIF Maker

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    I beg to differ.

    Our receivers are doing a fine job. We have among the lowest drops in the NFL with our group, and with London coming on strong we now have a tall physical receiver. And with Camarillo coming back do you really want to cut Bess, Cam, Ginn or London to make room for a new receiver? We have a group of receivers that are getting the job done AND are not breaking the bank. We can use the money on a number one receiver elsewhere, like an ILB now that it looks like Crowder won't be back...
     
  8. MDFinFan06

    MDFinFan06 Fins4life

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    hah yup, right along with 98% of sports writers
     
  9. G-Force

    G-Force Hall Of Famer

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    I love Hayword-Bey. He really isn't what we need though. He is what 6'1 at most and he is no faster or quicker than Ginn and Bess. He will make someone a nice WR for a long time IMO but he isn't what we are looking for right now. I don't see Minn passing on a QB again this year so maybe Nicks will slip to us.
     
  10. G-Force

    G-Force Hall Of Famer

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    Just so you guys know, Kiper hit on 28 of 32 first round players last year.
     
  11. cheyannefan

    cheyannefan Starter

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    I think if we go WR at any time in the draft it will be a guy like Robiske in the 4th round or later. I don't think we will pick a guy high unless they fall to us (if something amazing happened like Crabtree fell to #25 or something crazy like in round 2).
     
  12. G-Force

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    Bills philosophy has always been draft the best player available at positions needing upgradeing. He uses a system that tells him which position and players talent are the best on the board from the start. WR may be a need with the first pick and it may not be a need at all. Either way Bill knows more than any of us, and the entire NFL for that matter so don't worry who we draft where or who we sign in FA. remember last year we could have overspent and got in bidding wars with the Jets and others but Bill said he is building a future. Anyone know how Pace, faneca, and even all the people crying for Goolston or whatever that 1st round OSU loser on their PS's name was, worked out for the Jets? Relax.
     
  13. finsfan4life

    finsfan4life In Dawn We Trust!

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    Yeah, but they have the internet and have watched the guys they talk about once during the season. They obviously know more than Kiper, who was doing it before the internet came out.

    I say we address it in free agency. Quite honestly, I think we only need one big, physical receiver who can start opposite Ginn. After that, I like Camarillo, Bess, and London.
     
  14. MDFinFan06

    MDFinFan06 Fins4life

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    yea i agree we really dont need another wr unless its an all pro, and even that mught not be necessary. the pick could be used much better.
     
  15. Dfootball11

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    id learn more to the FA if the price isnt too high, simply because we already have young productive WRs and rookie wide outs do not really prosper their rookie year (prob 97% of the time) and we need some talent now
     
  16. DubVman

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    If he's available I'd hate to pass up Nicks in the draft.
     
  17. phishinphin

    phishinphin Well-Known Member

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    What about bringing in a Chris Carter, Jerry Rice or Keyshawn Johnson as an assistant WR coach if we keep what we have.
     
  18. phishinphin

    phishinphin Well-Known Member

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    Did he buy them a drink or ask them to dance? :lol:

    Seriously, did hit on them going in the first round or to going to a specific team? I sure don't recall him being that accurate as to who would go to a specific team.
     
  19. insomnia411

    insomnia411 The world is yours

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    I would absolutely love Heyward-Bey. He's a monster and has all the tools to be a #1 wide receiver. That being said, I don't think he is going to fall to us.
    One of the second tier big guys like Nicks, or Britt would be okay with the 2nd pick in round 2, but outside of the big 3 wide outs in this draft I don't see a whole lot of potential.

    I'd really like it if we could bring in ocho cinco for a 2nd rounder this year and next year, but that's probably not going to happen.
     
  20. insomnia411

    insomnia411 The world is yours

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    Upon further review, I'd like Nicks in the first round.
     
  21. tcdrover

    tcdrover Pro Bowler

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    Look at what Chad did this past season, just imagine how much better he would do with a legit #1 WR.

    I like out receiving core, Ginn has made major strides but Ginn is a speed WR not a possession guy. The other guys are either #3 & 4 or slot type WR's. We need a guy who will make defenses consistantly back off of the line of scrimmage.
     
  22. JimToss

    JimToss Thank You Chad Pennington

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    Yeah 28 of 32......He got 5 to the correct team. And that includes the gimmee of Jake Long who had already signed. Plus the negotiations the Rams had ongoing with Chris Long.


    Read it and cry.
    http://mb.jaguars.com/Topic513822-20-1.aspx

    Picking 28 of the 32 to go in the first round is no great feat. The first 20-25 are locks.
     
  23. Ohiodolphinfan

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    I dont think we need another young guy but a veteran. See who gets let go, Keep an eye on L. Coles from the jets. He is unhappy, likes chad, familar with our O and could be a cap casualty. Just one example could be someone else. Anquan Boldin would be my first choice.
     
  24. cheyannefan

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    That is one thing that I am confused about. Where is the spot that is the best value for him? Is it second round? Late first?

    About a week and a half ago, there were people saying that because of his "potential" he would be a good pickup in the second round, but based off of his actual talent his true value is as a third rounder. Now, I always thought that come draft time, it would be a tight race to determine the best "BIG" receiver and that that guy would go in the first but everyone seemed to disagree with me (Not the guys like Percy Harvin or Jeremy Macklin, but the guys like Nicks, Heyward-Bey, Britt, Barden, etc.) Now all of a sudden, a week and a half later, Nicks and Heyward-Bey are going in the first round. And this information came from guys like Kiper.

    What did these guys do to move up the boards? It's not like either one of them participated in the senior bowl or did any workouts. So why have they moved up so fast?
     
  25. X-Pacolypse

    X-Pacolypse A True Fan

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    D.J. Boldin
     
  26. Rio

    Rio Competition-The Elixir Of Success!

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    linesman yes, but not to replace Carey. We'll go with a Center, Nose Tackle, another Defensive End & a Defensive Back with our first 4 picks in order of value.
    the WR will probably come out of free agency. usually take s 2 or 3 years to develop a WR & even then there are no guarantees
     
  27. NYinBostonFin

    NYinBostonFin Playoffs Please!!

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    If BP and Ireland are going to address WR, it won't be through the draft it will be through FA. We have the young WRs with potential, we need a solid vet in the mix.
     
  28. G-Force

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    Read it and cry? WOW, the newbies and bandwagoners are really annoying this year.:( Read my fact. Kiper got 28 of the 32 first round PLAYERS correct. That is impressive considering it is the NFL DRAFT.
     
  29. G-Force

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    They played at a high level as JUNIORS in a real conference that don't put out Ghoolstons, Kijana Carters etc..etc...etc... BTW Nicks blew up at the skills challenge incase you don't keep up with players outside of BUST U.
     

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