How to fix the o-line...

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  1. jason37

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    Sign branden Albert. Move Tunsil to gaurd again.

    IMO this will bandaid fix the left side and at least give us hope.
     
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    The OL, - an unsolved problem over many staffs, FO. Etc.
     
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    Hope?

    Not this year.

    Now Cutler and Thomas, THERE’S where you should invest your hope.

    Those guys play from the gut.....and it’s time for my liquid medication.
     
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    Cocaine?
     
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    Read somewhere today Steen was OFF 5th best OF on Sunday. Anyone know the ranking of the other 4?
     
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    I don't know about the rankings but our o-line sucks

    Ozzy rules!!
     
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    Start with a good OL coach, who also is a good talent evaluator.
     
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    Branden Albert - T - Free Agent
    The Seahawks worked out free agent OT Branden Albert on Monday.

    Albert didn't want to play for the Jaguars and was released early in training camp, but it appears he's had a change of heart. The Seahawks could use him at peak strength, although Albert struggled at left tackle in Miami last year.
     
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    Cocaine is a hellva drug.
     
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    Albert would upgrade the Seahawks at left tackle.

    They better do something cause that d is getting worn down.
     
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    Give Asiata a chance at LG. Is there really much to lose? Miami's guard play has to be the worst in the NFL through four games. Asiata should instantly help in the running game and he'll be a work in progress in pass protection. At least he gets valuable reps.

    Draft an offensive lineman high come April. The Dolphins don't seem to be able to hit in middle to late rounds on the offensive line. Get a true, ready to start talent.
     
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    I mean I know it's four games into his career at LT so I don't want to act like an idiot...but Tunsil has not played well. He did good at G, but he is really struggling with speed guys.
     
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    Won't happen gase is too much of a twat
     
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    My guess is not having to attune yourselves to a debauched Oline coach will help.

    Their performance this Sunday will speak volumes about their relationship with that POS. Hopefully it's similar to how the overall team responded to the Philbin firing.

    These guys are beholden to their coaches to a degree, for better or for worse.
     
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    So the cocaine was the problem? Or the solution?

    My guess is the coach was hogging it all and the players weren't able to reboot during defensive drives.

    Could be that lack of blow was the problem. Only brought enough for the away trip, and the hurricane ****ed up the supply chain. Idk
     
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    Cocaine solved our oline problem. Foerster was a horrible coach from his first stint here as OC in 04 to his last gig with the niners. Not a good coach.
     
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    So Foerester says.
     
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    I've said for the last two years the way to fix it is by using free agency on the o-line and not the draft. When you go o-line in free agency you know what you're getting. You never know with the draft. They've had plenty of chances to get two top guards in free agency but instead they messed that up and gave money to players that they didn't need to give so much money to.

    Ozzy rules!!
     
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    Brandon Albert is done. Was a good OT, but not now. It would be a mistake to sign him.
     
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    Tunsil - smh....I thought he was going to beast this year.

    Maybe he is content now that he "made it".
     
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    I've watched that tunsil tape from yesterday it's not as bad as it's being made out to be.

    He had a solid saints game. But we aren't getting top 10 left tackle play that's for sure. I think the whole guard thing set him back on space play at tackle.

    Im seeing more a guard top heavy looking athlete this year not the terrific feet he came in the league with. Head dropping etc.
     
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    Hoops, why do you think Tunsil's mechanics are getting worse. Do you now think coaching has been the problem with the o-line.
     
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    I agree with this post. At least I really, really want to. I expect he'll improve throughout the year. Last year was a set back learning different habits, footwork and overall role responsibility. I still expect him to be a top LT in this league in the next 1-2 yrs.
     
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    How to fox this o-line..... cocain and PEDs. Hell, I’m on the A-rod supplement program and even use the same pharmacy as him. That shlt is a game changer.
     
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    Read that Albert is working out for the Giants too.

    Anyway, when is Larsen back?
     
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    Amen!

    If we were getting decent guard play, I'd be OK with standing pat at guard. But, we have a good young prospect in Asiata who has the physical power to open run lanes, something we definitely need. It's not like he would be a liability in pass pro ... given that our guards are poor at both currently. I hope the new OL coach plugs Asiata into LG and lets him grow. Then when Larsen gets back, give him a shot at RG, since Bushrod isn't really earning the spot either.
     
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    The problems with the oline really shouldn't be that shocking. Tunsil is starting at LT in the NFL for the first time in his life, should we expect no growing pains? Steen imo would have major trouble finding a starting job in the league. He has an Alabama pedigree but his anchor is weak in pass protection and I don't see him moving people in the run game. He isn't helping things on Sunday, not in love with#77 but I'm willing to wait and hope that he'll be a good player for us. Pouncey doesn't practice and it shows in his game. I'm not sure he's ever going to be the player we're hoping for him to be. He doesn't look close to his Pro Bowl form. Bushrod is not that great and he wasn't all that great last year. James is playing very well and is a bright spot. On top of all that the QB that runs the offense goes down and the line is dealing with a brand new guy who they don't know at all. This offense needs reps together, 1000's of them, maybe then they'll gel into a formidable unit.
     
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    Yep Tunsil is uncomfortable and it shows. The OL is not gelling.
     
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    I suggest having the coaches do less cocaine as a way to fix the O line play
     
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    PFF thinks Steen is a great run blocker, maybe I'm wrong about his run blocking, I just didn't see any push.
     
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    This is exactly what NRA said last year when we trotted out Albert at LT and Tunsil at LG. Should have played Tunsil at LT from the get-go. Where's NRA gone anyway? Still mad at the guys not standing for the anthem? Or is he banned?
     
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    That $10 million we blew on Cutler would have been a nice carryover for next season when
    Carolina Panthers left guard Andrew Norwell becomes an UFA.
     
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    - I could be wrong, but didnt Tunsil start at LT last year when Albert was out? I thought he got several starts there and did reasonably well.

    - The Pouncey issue and the reps, I couldnt agree more. In fact, this is my biggest gripe with the oline and Gase this year. We treated the preseason like a resort & spa instead of working these guys to build cohesion. We are paying for it now.

    - As for the other guys, I cant complain about James this year, but damn, we still need a RT, no way I am paying him 9 mil next year, he isnt THAT good. Bushrod is over the hill unfortunately, not sure he can get it done anymore. Larsen injury was bad for us, but honestly, its not like he was an all-pro that we lost. Steen would probably plug in well with a good and cohesive unit that can mask some of his deficiencies, but I think he is a victim of the ****show we have on the oline.
     
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    How long do you think he would last?

    BA was held together with spit and duct tape last year, I just dont see us bringing in a guy that might last 2 games before getting hurt again.
     
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    With all due respect to Shaun O'hara, I find it hard to believe he watched the whole game. He is probably basing his opinion on the stat sheet and highlight reel.

    That said, I havent watched every snap of every other game in the NFL, so hell, maybe other teams are even worse than us.
     
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    Lets look at the Cowboys. After the Jimmy Johnson era with that dominant Oline that brought them three SBs, Dallas had one of the worst Oline for over a decade. They then shifted gears and spent the next 3 (possibly 4) drafts taking an Olineman in the first round. In other words, Dallas FINALLY realized how important a good Oline is and went about fixing the problem with no help for Jerry Jones mind you. Drafting a C, LG and LT in early rounds are not sexy picks, but the Dolphins are a perfect example of what could happen when you neglect certain positions for so long even with all our talent at WR. Now I am not saying this is our only problem by any means, but I tell you this, we can blame Cutler, Tannehill and even Moore all we want but the damn Oline is crippling this team whether that be through bad drafting, expensive FA's or simply just plain neglect. I was a big supporter of Pouncy but he is finished, he is living off of past glory, Tunsil is young and IMO a keeper, and for **** sake start Asiata...nothing to lose at this point.
     
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    I don't understand these Dolfans... LG is not the issue apparently. It is RG (Bushrod). Why bench Steen when he is showing improvements?
     
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    I agree, Tunsil is not ready and this is a logical answer.
     
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