Hyde5: Let's review 2009 Dolphins draft

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  1. DKphin

    DKphin A True Fan Donator

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    By Dave Hyde August 23, 2010 07:20 AM
    With so much talk about Pat White', let's take a look at the development Dolphins' 2009 draft class. The issue in any draft isn't the misses - every team misses. It's the nature of the draft. The issue is who you hit on. If you get three starterrs, it's a decent draft. Four guys on the roster, it's a good one. We're a year away from final conclusions, but this looks to be a good draft class for the Dolphins.
    1. CB Vontae Davis (28th overall). Started as a rookie, showed glimpses that he can be very good. Yep, I'm one of those wondering about his preseason and if it means he's not going to make the hoped-for leap this season year. Still, he's going to start for years. At worst, he's an average CB. We're still waiting to see how good he'll be.
    2. Pat White (44th overall). His time is done.
    2. CB Sean Smith (61st overall).. Same story as with Davis. He was the better cover corner as a rookie. But the coaches questioned his work this training camp and this year will go a long way to seeing if he's just another cornerback or something more.
    3. WR Patrick Turner (87th) . After an empty rookie year, you saw a glimpse of something with a 34-yard catch in the first preseason game. One catch for 7 yards against Jacksonville. The question remains: Is there anything there? The fact we're still asking that is probably answer enough.
    4. WR Brian Hartline (108, from Raiders in Samson Satele trade). Good pick. Three touchdowns, 31 catches and 16.3-yard average as a rookie. He's in a good spot starting opposite Brandon Marshall.
    5. John Nalbone (161). Done.
    5. Chris Clemons (165), from Colts in draft-day trade down). Not exactly sure who he is yet, but the fact he's starting from this point in the draft tells you something. But don't forget the Dolphins made free-agent offers to Ryan Clark and Antrel Rolle, so they're not exactly sure what Clemons is either.
    6. Andrew Gardner (181 , from Raiders in Samson Satele deal). He's in the mix on the offensive line. Good value pick
    7. J.D. Folson (214). Done
    Bottom line: For all the talk of White and Turner, this is an above-average draft with the chance to be better than that. Davis, Smith and Hartline should have productive careers. Clemons will show what he has this year. Garnder adds to the roster.


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  2. GCD960

    GCD960 A True Fan

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    Mccoy over white and ths draft would have been great. If clemons starts and not by default, ths draft is still very good tho
     
  3. j-off-her-doll

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    So, three starters = decent, but 4 roster players (starter or ST player) = good. How long has this guy been writing?

    At any rate, the 2009 draft gave us four players who will open the 2010 season as starters.
     
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    i say its above average cant beat 4 starters in one draft
     
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    This was a very good draft.
     
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    4 starters in one draft is excellent. It really doesn't get much better than that unless someone decides to start all 7 draft picks...
     
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    gardener probably wont make the team, and how is nalbone done? He is a developmental player with plenty of upside. The fact that we missed in the 2nd round and 3rd round but, hit in the 4th and 5th is what makes that a good draft. It would of been great if turner and/or white turned out..

    anyways, hanos is horrible. nalbone should make the team based on that alone..

    lets look at 08's draft...

    jake long- hit
    phillip merling- flashes but, injured
    chad henne- hit
    kendall langford- hit
    devone bess- hit
    lex hilliard- solid
    donald thomas-hit
    lionel dotson- solid

    looking back, miami has done well. looking at where alot of these players are drafted, miami has added solid pieces. the fact that miami has their franchise l.t. and franchise quarterback is what makes these past three drafts great.
     
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    Bit early at this point to say if it was a good/bad draft. At the moment it looks good coz 4 of those guys drafted are now starters. But whether these guys are still starters in two/three years time will give us a better evaluation of how good the draft was.
     
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    While an outstanding acquisition, Davone Bess was not drafted.
     
  10. Ferretsquig

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    You have to be cautous in grading either the '08 or '09 drafts based on who is starting or contributing. This team was so thoroughly gutted that most of these guys were going to start regardless of how well they performed. Case in point Davis, who landed that starting job by default after Allen was injured and Goodman let go, or Thomas.

    Even with the '08 draft the only guys I'd say you can judge as successes are Long, Bess, and Langford. Long because of the quality of his play and Langford and Bess because of how they exceeded expectations. Both drafts could end up being seen as rather spectacular if Henne becomes a good starting QB and either Davis or Smith turns into a star corner or lackluster if none of these hopes are realized.
     
  11. Spesh

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    Who does this guy think he is? We all know that Pat White was one of the worst picks in the history of the league and our front office needs to be torn apart because we spent a second round pick on the guy!

    In all seriousness, i really think our fans have gotten spoiled with the Tuna's drafts. '09 was a good draft, getting 3 to 4 starters per draft is outstanding. Davis, Smith, and Hartline play positions that can take a few years to 'click', yet they showed they are at least decent starters as rookies. Nnamdi Asomugha did very little in his first year, and Hartline played better then Brandon Marshall as a rookie(both were 4th rounders).
    I suppose when you walk out of the '08 draft with a future hall of famer and a potential franchise QB, its a hard act to follow. But even if those guys stop growing, you can look back at this draft and call it a success.....despite everyone losing their minds over Pat White.
     

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