I got some laughs off of this Browns message board.....

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by MARSHALL~LAW, Sep 3, 2013.

  1. MARSHALL~LAW

    MARSHALL~LAW Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 2010
    Messages:
    433
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    0
  2. dlockz

    dlockz Hall Of Famer

    Joined:
    Sep 2004
    Messages:
    44,288
    Likes Received:
    76
    Trophy Points:
    48
    nyjunc likes this.
  3. DisturbedShifty

    DisturbedShifty Wort-wort-wort!!! Administrator Finheaven VIP

    Joined:
    Apr 2006
    Messages:
    13,880
    Likes Received:
    132
    Trophy Points:
    63
    I really would like to know why everyone is picking the Browns over us. Seems like there are a lot of people high on the Browns as a sleeper team. Why exactly is that?

    Never go to the Library without your shotgun.
     
  4. dlockz

    dlockz Hall Of Famer

    Joined:
    Sep 2004
    Messages:
    44,288
    Likes Received:
    76
    Trophy Points:
    48

    I dont see everyone doing in or even majority. They were 5-11 and we were 7-9. So nobody should be an easy favorite
     
  5. MARSHALL~LAW

    MARSHALL~LAW Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 2010
    Messages:
    433
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Their front 7 is nowhere near ours! Their secondary is nowhere near ours! Our WR's are better, TE is a push, and may swing their way, They have a better RB only because hes more proven. Their oline is better. We are not the same 7-9 team, and they arent the same either.....granted, but we dont have any safeties, and Patterson is our best CB? Really? BULL****!!!

    [mod]Please refrain from Circumventing the Profanity Filer[/mod]
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 3, 2013
  6. Spesh

    Spesh #freespesh

    Joined:
    Apr 2007
    Messages:
    14,321
    Likes Received:
    205
    Trophy Points:
    63
    They've assembled an excellent coaching staff. When Sparano was here i pushed for Chud to replace him. He has an exceptional understanding of offenses and every player who has played for him has bought into the coach because of his intelligence and game planning. Tight ends especially flourish under Chud.
    No one on here should have to explain former Dolphins coordinator Norv Turner. He might be a crap head coach but hes an brilliant teacher for quarterbacks and gets the best out of his players.
    And, of course, Ray Horton has proven to be exceptional as well. People forget the Cardinals started out 4-0 last year. That was pretty much accomplished by Horton and his defense. The Cardinals originally wanted to keep Horton and insisted the coaches they interview agree to keep him on. He ended up leaving because he felt he didnt get a fair chance at the head coaching job. There were some burned bridges on his way out.

    As for the players, on offense: Weeden had a great preseason. He did everything he didnt do last season: showed precision, touch, and decisiveness. He struggled in his 3rd game, but in his first two he completed 18/25 pass attempts and was 3-0 in touchdowns to interceptions.
    Jordan Cameron has shown up in a big way. Holmgren drafted the former basketball player as a project, knowing it would take 2-3 years for him to develop. Well, its his 3rd season and he was a monster this preseason. He sustained a minor injury during the 3rd game(which im convinced caused Weeden to struggle), but should return for the regular season.
    Trent Richardson is blowing it up as well. People forget he played with broken ribs last season, hence his struggles. A year of experience and a clean bill of health and hes good to go.
    As well, they have a good offensive line, with Alex Mack and Joe Thomas being the anchors.

    On defense: they have what every team needs, 2 pass rushers. Jabaal Sheard has been improving since they drafted him, he has had 15.5 sacks in his first two seasons. And while im not a fan, Paul Kruger was a beast the second half of last season. Throw in Mingo, who is a physical specimen, and they could be fierce.
    Their defense line is a monster of a unit. Phil Taylor has been improving and is now back in a system that benefits him(3-4). Ahtyba Rubin has been one of the more underrated players in the league, and hes always played his best ball in a 3-4 system. And he light clicked on for Desmond Bryant last season.
    Their backfield has problems but they have a solid safety in TJ Ward and have a damned fine corner in Joe Haden. People forget about Haden, hes been playing some good football for the Browns and it looks like hes going to be making bank shortly. Ray Horton has already announced he is going to use Haden like he used Patrick Peterson while in Arizona.

    Compare the two teams and they have a lot of similarities.
    Can anyone definitively say Tannehill is currently better then Weeden? I cant, both have shown flashes this preseason.
    Can anyone definitively say they feel more confident with Wallace-Hartline-Gibson over Jordan Cameron-Greg Little-Devone Bess? I cant, its to similar.
    Can anyone definitively say our defensive line is better then theirs? I cant, both units have strengths and weaknesses. Even if i feel Miami's is better(i actually do), both are going to be so productive its not going to really matter who is technically better.
    Can anyone definitively say our defensive backfield is better then theirs? I cant, both units have giant question marks at free safety and the second corner spot.

    Meanwhile, Cleveland has some clear advantages. Lets call a spade a spade and point out that Richardson is better then whatever we are doing at running back and the Browns offensive line is better then ours. Oh, and the game is taking place in Cleveland.

    So yes, im not sleeping on the Browns. I predicted a hard fought game, low scoring game, with the Browns inching out a win after Miami kicks field goals instead of scoring touchdowns. Basically, Dolphins gonna Dolphins. Even if people disagree with that, i dont see how anyone can dismiss the Browns. Their record wont reflect it this season, but they arent the bottom feeders they used to be.
     
  7. Chuck-182

    Chuck-182 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 2010
    Messages:
    733
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Haha this one made me laugh
     
  8. Perfect23

    Perfect23 A True Fan

    Joined:
    Dec 2005
    Messages:
    5,508
    Likes Received:
    6
    Trophy Points:
    38
    the Browns are a beter team then what they have on paper
     
  9. flynryan15

    flynryan15 A True Fan Donator

    Joined:
    Jan 2009
    Messages:
    13,965
    Likes Received:
    93
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Well they have beat us every time we have played since their return. That said we better beat the Clowns!
     
  10. dlockz

    dlockz Hall Of Famer

    Joined:
    Sep 2004
    Messages:
    44,288
    Likes Received:
    76
    Trophy Points:
    48
    I never once said Patterson is our best corner I said Krine beat out Patterson. Just saying their board favors thier team just like ours.
     
  11. KTOWNFINFAN

    KTOWNFINFAN Seasoned Veteran

    Joined:
    Aug 2005
    Messages:
    6,512
    Likes Received:
    33
    Trophy Points:
    48
    I agree with most everything you said. The game will be decided by turnovers and how many times we have to settle for FGs rather than TDs. Our redzone has to improve or we are toast.
     
  12. finfan54

    finfan54 A True Fan Donator

    Joined:
    Aug 2002
    Messages:
    26,170
    Likes Received:
    28
    Trophy Points:
    0
    9 undrafted FA on their roster should tell you all you need to know about them. Not everyone is buying what they are selling.

    Sound familiar?
     
  13. finjim

    finjim A True Fan

    Joined:
    Jan 2004
    Messages:
    4,502
    Likes Received:
    31
    Trophy Points:
    0
    LOL, what a shock, Spesh picks the Browns!! LMFAO!!!
     
  14. ZIGGY66

    ZIGGY66 Member

    Joined:
    May 2009
    Messages:
    15
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    with that pass defense Tanny should have a field day..
     
  15. dlockz

    dlockz Hall Of Famer

    Joined:
    Sep 2004
    Messages:
    44,288
    Likes Received:
    76
    Trophy Points:
    48


    U coul say the same for Weeden
     
  16. DisturbedShifty

    DisturbedShifty Wort-wort-wort!!! Administrator Finheaven VIP

    Joined:
    Apr 2006
    Messages:
    13,880
    Likes Received:
    132
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Oh. Ok. So they are being considered sleepers because of the coaching staff. That makes much more sense to me now. Right on Spesh.
     
  17. state06

    state06 A True Fan

    Joined:
    Jan 2010
    Messages:
    1,448
    Likes Received:
    7
    Trophy Points:
    36
    we need to score TDs and not settle for 3. its not like the browns haven't beaten us before and they could potentially bring lots of pressure. Look for Tannehill to play conservative and try to get the ball out quick with lots of short 3 step drops. We need to run crisp routes and keep our QB upright... I can see the browns coming on top, but it would be due to our lack of execution...and maybe a deep ball from Weeden to Benjamin over Carroll (read it here first, lol).
     
  18. finjim

    finjim A True Fan

    Joined:
    Jan 2004
    Messages:
    4,502
    Likes Received:
    31
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Spesh is a very knowledgeable poster. His football savvy is unmatched. So I am on board with whatever he says.

    We need more posters like him!
     
  19. MadDog 88

    MadDog 88 TANNERECTION!!!! Donator

    Joined:
    Jul 2008
    Messages:
    16,187
    Likes Received:
    84
    Trophy Points:
    48
    I can't believe I am hearing this from you.
     
  20. Spesh

    Spesh #freespesh

    Joined:
    Apr 2007
    Messages:
    14,321
    Likes Received:
    205
    Trophy Points:
    63
    [​IMG]
     
  21. dlockz

    dlockz Hall Of Famer

    Joined:
    Sep 2004
    Messages:
    44,288
    Likes Received:
    76
    Trophy Points:
    48
    I said over and over again I would not take weeden because he has no time to develop but that doesnt make our corners beyond Grimes worth a crap esp with a guy that wasnt good enough for cleveland's secondary as our starter
     
  22. phinfan40353

    phinfan40353 Scout Team

    Joined:
    Feb 2008
    Messages:
    1,475
    Likes Received:
    20
    Trophy Points:
    38
    I'm reminded of games in the past few years when we played teams we should never have lost. I remember when the lowly Texans came into town and beat us on opening day a few years ago.

    Last year, I remember losing to the Jets, Cardinals, Bills and Titans. In 2011, we lost to the Browns. In 2010, we lost to the Browns. In fact, how many times have we been to the playoffs in the past decade?

    Until we beat the teams we are supposedly better than... until we win consistently... until we win playoff games.... until we do anything but what we have done, nothing else matters.

    Winning is how you prove you are better.
     
  23. templarwd

    templarwd Starter

    Joined:
    Jul 2003
    Messages:
    933
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    0
    The Browns still don't have a place-kicker. While the weather on Sunday should be spectacular, it's going to be windy. That's doesn't bode well for whoever they and up signing. Also, the Browns looked BAD in the 3rd pre-season game in Indy.

    Something has to give; the Browns have won ONE season opener since their return in 1999. The Phins have never beaten the Browns in CLE since their return in 1999.
     
  24. rob19

    rob19 Soul Rebel Finheaven VIP Donator

    Joined:
    Mar 2006
    Messages:
    8,995
    Likes Received:
    62
    Trophy Points:
    48
    I'll say that. Cameron's a nice tight-end but he doesn't compare to what Wallace brings to the table. Little vs. Hartline & Bess vs. Gibson are a little murkier, but if we still had Keller this wouldn't even be a conversation.

    Btw that color scheme of theirs is hard on the eyes.
     
  25. dlockz

    dlockz Hall Of Famer

    Joined:
    Sep 2004
    Messages:
    44,288
    Likes Received:
    76
    Trophy Points:
    48
    placekicker may play a part but thats basically the one plu and play piece in the nfl
     
  26. Spesh

    Spesh #freespesh

    Joined:
    Apr 2007
    Messages:
    14,321
    Likes Received:
    205
    Trophy Points:
    63
    To be fair, you could say the same thing about Cleveland. If Josh Gordon was in the lineup, then they would easily eclipse us.

    Wallace is a nice piece, and Cameron is unknown, but i figure an athletic tight end causes as many problems for a defense as a primary receiver. At least in today's NFL.
    Id take Hartline over Little but i would take Bess over Gibson. For the latter, its all about consistency, especially in the slot. We all know Bess is going to catch what comes his way even if he doesnt do much with it. I cant confidentially state "which Gibson" is going to show up this Sunday.

    Regardless, there can be a debate on the matter. I just dont see one side having a clear advantage over the other. Not in a way that tips the balance.
     
  27. RockyMtnPhinfan

    RockyMtnPhinfan A True Fan Donator

    Joined:
    Aug 2006
    Messages:
    2,511
    Likes Received:
    13
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Brown- like a stain in your undies.
     
  28. psfign

    psfign A True Fan

    Joined:
    Apr 2009
    Messages:
    3,472
    Likes Received:
    26
    Trophy Points:
    48
    This thread is ridiculous. While you're laughing at Brown's fans being optimistic on THEIR OWN site, I'm sure the same is being said about fans on this one. You have zero reason to be this egotistical about the fins or this week's game. But hey, at least you're showing a little class by not going over there and trolling. And if the browns end up beating us, I'm calling this thread a jinx!
     
  29. Ruckus45

    Ruckus45 FinHeaven VIP Finheaven VIP

    Joined:
    Oct 2012
    Messages:
    4,773
    Likes Received:
    11
    Trophy Points:
    38
    I'm not so sure you can. Grimes is looking good, Jones is....well Jones, Clemons is avg/better than avg, and Patterson is Avg. Our pass rush will get there quick and the Browns are down a weapon. I think Weeden will be forced to manufacture yards especially if they can't get their run game going early.
     
  30. Birdmond

    Birdmond FinHeaven VIP Finheaven VIP Donator

    Joined:
    Nov 2012
    Messages:
    1,296
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    38
    At least 50% of the Browns fans are picking Miami. I don't see anything unreasonable in the thread.
     
  31. NBP81

    NBP81 Yippi ka yay mother******! Donator

    Joined:
    Jan 2008
    Messages:
    5,643
    Likes Received:
    45
    Trophy Points:
    48
    I guess you could say we have similar teams, but there's going to be a lot of pressure on the QBs in this game and I think Tannehill is a much better QB under pressure than Weeden... We'll see soon enough I guess...
     
  32. dolpns13

    dolpns13 Chest Rockwell is my hero Donator

    Joined:
    Nov 2005
    Messages:
    28,780
    Likes Received:
    77
    Trophy Points:
    48
  33. 72champagne

    72champagne the annual ritual

    Joined:
    Apr 2009
    Messages:
    5,333
    Likes Received:
    38
    Trophy Points:
    48
    vegas has it right. flip a coin.
     
  34. Krie30511

    Krie30511 Seasoned Veteran

    Joined:
    Aug 2004
    Messages:
    873
    Likes Received:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    18
    I love this one!!... I'm not saying we are winning... but 125+ yds...lol


    Re: GAME PREDICTIONS [Re: TopDawg16]
    #1071086 - Mon Sep 02 2013 03:10 PM
    Edit post Reply to this post Reply to this post Quick Reply



    Agreed on the 0 chance we lose by 3+ TD.

    T-Rich puts up 125+ and 2 TD, Weeden about 250 yds with 1 TD and 1 INT. Defense gets 5 sacks and at least 1 turnover.

    Browns win handily 24 - 13.
     
  35. MadDog 88

    MadDog 88 TANNERECTION!!!! Donator

    Joined:
    Jul 2008
    Messages:
    16,187
    Likes Received:
    84
    Trophy Points:
    48
    What Cleveland WR are you concerned about Patterson covering?
     
  36. MARSHALL~LAW

    MARSHALL~LAW Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 2010
    Messages:
    433
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I meant that, that was one of the comments that one of those Brown's fans said. Not you.
     
  37. MARSHALL~LAW

    MARSHALL~LAW Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 2010
    Messages:
    433
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I don't recall me saying, or anyone else saying that this game is a "shoe in." All I'm saying is that some of these comments are rediculous.
     
  38. dlockz

    dlockz Hall Of Famer

    Joined:
    Sep 2004
    Messages:
    44,288
    Likes Received:
    76
    Trophy Points:
    48
    oh my bad
     
  39. Wildbill3

    Wildbill3 Misery Loves Company Administrator Finheaven VIP

    Joined:
    Dec 2001
    Messages:
    28,193
    Likes Received:
    152
    Trophy Points:
    63
    only two things caught my eye on that forum, how ****ty it looked, and the fact one guy thought the browns would win 36-6.
     
  40. OyeDale305

    OyeDale305 MIA#1

    Joined:
    May 2010
    Messages:
    2,303
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Weeden blows
     
  41. dolpns13

    dolpns13 Chest Rockwell is my hero Donator

    Joined:
    Nov 2005
    Messages:
    28,780
    Likes Received:
    77
    Trophy Points:
    48
    I hear ya, but alot of posters on this board think we will win it handily. Not saying you do but alot of others do. I would not be surprised at all if we lose this game.
     
  42. Statler Waldorf

    Statler Waldorf Bench Warmer

    Joined:
    Jun 2005
    Messages:
    1,288
    Likes Received:
    28
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I think this will be one of those games where we get up on them early but then let them back in the game for a small scare at the end, Fins- 20, Browns- 16
     
  43. godolphins1985

    godolphins1985 WILDCARD

    Joined:
    Jan 2008
    Messages:
    2,480
    Likes Received:
    20
    Trophy Points:
    0
    A slight edge should go to the fins. Although the Browns should hang in there, won't be a cake walk. I will be shocked if we blew them out of the water.

    Sent from my DROID RAZR HD using Tapatalk 2
     
  44. maralieus

    maralieus Lets get those balls deep!!

    Joined:
    Mar 2006
    Messages:
    4,486
    Likes Received:
    11
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Man I hope it doesn't turn out like it did a couple years back, with us dominating and then giving it away at the end.

    Sent from my HTC One V using Tapatalk 4
     
  45. utahphinsfan

    utahphinsfan Puck Fitzburgh

    Joined:
    Jan 2005
    Messages:
    8,674
    Likes Received:
    28
    Trophy Points:
    0
  46. dolpns13

    dolpns13 Chest Rockwell is my hero Donator

    Joined:
    Nov 2005
    Messages:
    28,780
    Likes Received:
    77
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Which year would that be? Because we didnt dominate at any point in the game when we played them in 2005 and actually got shut out in that game. We didnt dominate at any point in the game when we played them in 2007. We didnt dominate in any point during the game when we played them in 2009 and we didnt dominate in any point during the game when we played them in 2010.
    EDIT: As the last poster mentioned the last time we beat them was in 2004, 10-7. Thats certainly not dominating... Just sayin
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 3, 2013
  47. Phinatic8u

    Phinatic8u Adam ****ing Gase

    Joined:
    Nov 2008
    Messages:
    14,640
    Likes Received:
    75
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Weeded looked great until the 3rd game..thats the game coaches prepare for.

    He'll be just as bad this year as last year..
     
  48. Dolph N.Fan

    Dolph N.Fan A True Fan

    Joined:
    Sep 2010
    Messages:
    8,105
    Likes Received:
    39
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Miami beat Cleveland 10-7 on Sunday Night in 2004....Miami wore all aqua.
     
  49. dolpns13

    dolpns13 Chest Rockwell is my hero Donator

    Joined:
    Nov 2005
    Messages:
    28,780
    Likes Received:
    77
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Cant believe how pathetic we have been since 2000. Can only beat the Browns once since 2004 and the subsequent 4 games we play against them they beat us in somewhat convincingly fashion.

    Also, I loved the all aqua uni's..
     
  50. sirvmac

    sirvmac Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 2006
    Messages:
    552
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    0
    True that. I would be upset as hell if we lose, but not shocking. There are only a couple of ''joke'' teams in the nfl this year, Oakland being one, where you could pretty much guarantee a victory.
    We all know that opening day is wild too.
    I remember the days when we won on opening day year after year. I took it for granted then lol.
     

Share This Page