If Luck Wins the Heisman?

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    Do you think Andrew Luck will have a better NFL career if he wins or loses the Heisman this year?

    Think about all the Heisman runner-ups that have excelled in the NFL possibly b/c of a proverbial chip on their shoulder before you answer:

    John Elway 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] 1982 (Herschel Walker 1[SUP]st[/SUP])
    Steve Young 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] 1983 (Mike Rozier 1[SUP]st[/SUP])
    Troy Aikman 3[SUP]rd[/SUP] 1988 (Barry Sanders 1[SUP]st[/SUP])
    Payton Manning 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] 1997 (Charles Woodson 1[SUP]st[/SUP])
    Michael Vick 3[SUP]rd[/SUP] 1999 (Ron Dayne 1[SUP]st[/SUP])
    Drew Brees 3[SUP]rd[/SUP] 2000 (Chris Weinke 1[SUP]st[/SUP])
    Eli Manning 3[SUP]rd[/SUP] 2003 (Jason White 1[SUP]st[/SUP])

    Now look at some of the Heisman winners that have been NFL busts:

    Gino Torretta (1992; Marshall Faulk 2[SUP]nd[/SUP])
    Danny Wuerffel (1996)
    Chris Weinke (2000; Drew Brees 3[SUP]rd[/SUP])
    Eric Crouch (2001; Rex Grossman 2nd)=both busts!
    Carson Palmer (2002; Larry Johnson 3[SUP]rd[/SUP])
    Jason White (2003; Larry Fitzgerald 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] and Eli Manning 3[SUP]rd[/SUP])
    Matt Leinart (2004; Adrian Peterson 2[SUP]nd[/SUP])
    Troy Smith (2006; Darren McFadden 2[SUP]nd[/SUP])
    Tim Tebow (2007; Darren McFadden 2[SUP]nd[/SUP])

    Although it is still too early to tell, Cam Newton has seemingly handled the pressures of being both a Heisman winner and #1 overall pick. Can Luck do the same? Or, would you prefer that he come to Miami with that "chip" on his shoulder?
     
  2. J. David Wannyheimer

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    Winning the Heisman Trophy or finishing second in the voting doesn't make him a different player.
     
  3. JerryD

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    Heisman doesn't have much to do with best football player ... especially NFL. I don't even follow it.

    Its a publicity gimmick to make the NY Downtown Athletic Club look important. Usually goes to someone on a top team that receives the most publicity ... so the publicity rubs off on the NY Downtown Athletic Club.

    That's why so many winners aren't big stars in the NFL. Tebow's a bonafide/certified poop flinger & he won it!! What a joke!!

    The "purported" BEST COLLEGE PLAYER in College Football ... is the Top Draft Pick(s) ... often #2 or #3; as good QBs go first irregardless.
     
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    This.

    Winning the Heisman has no direct bearing on a player's career in the NFL.
     
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    It will have no effect on his NFL career.
     
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    Off topic but how many Heisman's are in the Hall of Fame?
     
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    Can you say :bobdole:?
     
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    Don't forget Ron Dayne. He was the best college player during his career at Wisconsin and totally busted with the Broncos. Jason White didn't even enter the draft and he won it twice.
     
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    Then he'll go higher than first overall?
     
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    If he falls to first overall some GM needs to be shot.
     
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    If?????????
     
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    Lots of mis-information in this post. Ron Dayne busted with the team that drafted him, the Giants. After playing 5 seasons w/the Giants, he signed w/the Broncos, where he played 1 season (2005). He played pretty well for them, considering they knew he wasn't that good when they got him.
    Jason White only won the Heisman once, in 2003. He entered the draft in 2005, but he wasn't drafted. He signed a contract w/the Titans as an UDFA after the draft, but decided to hang it up because his knees were shot.
     
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    [TABLE="align: center"]

    [TD="class: footer, colspan: 4"]
    Heisman Trophy Winners in the
    Pro Football Hall of Fame​
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    [TD="class: row1"]
    Class of 1985​
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    [TD="class: row1"]
    Class of 1985​
    [/TD]
    [TD="class: row1"]
    Class of 1986​
    [/TD]
    [TD="class: row1"]
    Class of 1986​
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    [TD="class: row1"]
    USC​
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    Navy​
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    [TD="class: row1"]
    Notre Dame​
    [/TD]
    [TD="class: row1"]
    Southern Methodist​
    [/TD]

    [TD="class: row1"]
    (1968)​
    [/TD]
    [TD="class: row1"]
    (1963)​
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    [TD="class: row1"]
    (1956)​
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    [TD="class: row1"]
    (1948)​
    [/TD]

    [TD="colspan: 4"] [/TD]

    [TD="class: row2"][/TD]
    [TD="class: row2"][/TD]
    [TD="class: row2"][/TD]
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    [TD="class: row1"]
    Class of 1991​
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    [TD="class: row1"]
    Class of 1994​
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    Class of 2003​
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    [TD="class: row1"]
    Class of 2004​
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    [TD="class: row1"]
    Texas​
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    Pittsburgh​
    [/TD]
    [TD="class: row1"]
    USC​
    [/TD]
    [TD="class: row1"]
    Oklahoma State​
    [/TD]
    [/TABLE]
    there has been 8
     
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    The new ways to bash Andrew Luck.

    Some fans don't want another elite QB here ever again.
     
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    White only won it once
     
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    Eh, the Heisman. I love how they still try to portray it as an award for the best college player that year.
     
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    There have been alot of great players that have won the heisman..

    There have been alot of bad players that have won the heisman.

    That is all you can draw from this.
     
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    Not fair to call Carson Palmer a bust.
     

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