Importance of "culture" in building a champion?

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  1. royalshank

    royalshank Scout Team Finheaven VIP Donator

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    Watching the game yesterday I couldn't help but think about how the Ravens have had an "identity" for over a decade and SF the last 2 years since Harbaugh took over. These organizations have distinct cultures - they are images of their coaches for sure. These teams also seem to have had a lot of stability at many key positions over the last few years - a lot of the key 9ers players were on the roster before Harbaugh got there. My question is, with all the UFAs we have and churn that appears to be coming can our FO and coaching staff build a team ready to compete at a high level in 2013?

    I guess the I have my doubts as the last time we loaded up on FAs was '95 - I think we had like 25 former #1's on our team but had no identity, no chemistry, a 9-7 record and another first round blowout loss at Buffalo. I'd personally rather see us retain our "solid" guys and focus on drafting playmakers than letting most of these guys walk simply due to how hard I believe it will be to transform the organizational culture / mental framework of a team with so much change.

    What do you guys think?
     
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    Shouright A True Fan

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    Look toward 2014.
     
  3. jerry denny

    jerry denny Active Member

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    Like i have said before we should Draft two WR first three picks, Re sign our core players, and let our high priced players who are in their last year and their abilities starting to decline, let them hit free agency as other teams do, or trade them get something for them , instead of getting stuck with them.
     
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    The 11 Starter 1st round picks were
    Marino,Byars,Fryer,McDuffie,Green,Webb,Milner,Bowens,Coleman,Singleton,Vincent

    add to that
    Armstrong,Buckley,Emtman,Hill,Kosar,Moore,Oliver,McGuire

    19 first round picks...amazing
     
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    oasis Lost in the fog

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    Culture is usually overlooked by fans, and yeah, I'd say it's pretty darn important in building a championship team.

    The culture is established by your core players. What is Miami's culture? I'd say it's a culture of toughness but NOT a culture of winning. So you have to look at your core players and determine where the weak links are...where are the guys that talk big but ultimately don't care about winning? Where are the subtle elements of laziness and complacency? Who are the guys that just want to get paid? You don't retain your core players simply because you want continuity of culture - sometimes you have to sift your core players because the culture isn't quite right.
     
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    Sean Smith should be sifted. Seems like he is just about money
     
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    oasis Lost in the fog

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    Couldn't agree with you more.
     
  8. RichmondWeb

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    Chemistry


    This discussion is about the importance of chemistry. Our defense has it in spades; with another premier pass-rusher (meh, and another good CB), we would have a top defense. The offense has had one year in the new system. The O-line is the key to the offense and has some good parts. I recall Jake Long's (beautiful) wife welcoming the Tannehills to Miami and she and Mrs. Tannehill (also very hot) seem inseparable; how important is it for Long and Tannehill also to stay together? Isn't it superficial for teams to cut and paste players based solely on their game film and salary cap #'s? Who are they and what is their role in "the family"? Look at teams like KC and Philly, they have a lot of talented individual players yet they could not get it together; bad teams often collect individual talent but never form a cohesive unit. Whereas Baltimore, has been average (just like NYG last year) and beat up this season, yet they are playing as a team, with a purpose, and got a new ring. They have good talent but they are an awesome team. They have chemistry which they built gradually by keeping what was working and adding to it; by building trust, consistency, and personal relationships between all involved from Ozzy/ownership, to Ray, to the asst. eqip. mgr., over time.

    Who are these Dolphins on the field, but also in practice, off the field, in the community, and in the locker room?

    Also, whom is available to replace them and at what cost? If they are replaced will we lose the cohesiveness plateau we reached in year #1?

    What matters to me is what decisions the team makes given all of the available information and taking everything into account. Especially chemistry.

    Onward and upward!

    RW
     
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    Continuity is key. That's what I always say.

    That's why I think we should be focused on the draft and maybe 1 FA, being at WR. We don't want to go out and spend all our money in FA either because it will make it tougher to resign the young talent we have when their rookie contracts expire.

    We need to adopt the models used by Pittsburgh, Green Bay and Baltimore even.
     
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    This is why you re-sign a guy like Reggie Bush, at a reasonable price of course.
     
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    It is absolutely important to build that culture. You need something that every player on the team can buy into. Good defense almost always beats a good offense, but I think we have a solid core, and adding to that defense can help. I think what they need to turn this into is explosive offense, solid 14 point defense. I think if the team can give Tanny the tools, all the defense needs to do is keep the opponent to 14 points. Not too much, not too small.

    I think this is realistic, and every player could buy into rallying around Tannehill.
     
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    Chemistry be damned, there's absolutely no point in paying a washed up left tackle $10 million a year to do the same job a guy from free agency or the draft can do, especially if it's one who actually fits our scheme.
     
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    The question is what comes first: the culture or the winning? You don't see a lot of losing teams with a healthy culture unless they're rebuilding.

    That being said, I certainly think a negative culture that is already established can impede future results.
     
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    Wow - dang you are good! I forgot about a bunch of these guys...
     
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    A lot of good perspective on this by all the posters - good stuff. I hope we can identify that "core" of guys we want to be around for a while and manage to keep them, add the rookie and some FA pieces and really gel.
     
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    I hope we bring Bush back - he doesn't have to be the every down back - but I think he'd be great to have as a "Sproles" type or the way the Saints used him in NO. He's best in space as we all know - let's throw him the ball more, let him return punts again, etc. I guess it's hard to pay the guy $5mil to be a "spot" back - but if we can get him to be reasonable with his salary demands and find a true #1 RB he would be a nice weapon to have IMO.
     
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    Seeing Emtman's name brings back one awful memory - do you recall when he was with the Colts (pre-knee blowout) and we were going in for the game winning TD with under a minute to go or so - and he picked off a Marino rocket from what seemed like 3 feet away as he was rushing? He ran it back 90-something yards of so and I was like WTF? How does a down lineman do that? When we got Emtman I thought we were getting "that guy" - didn't realize how broken he was when he got to Miami.
     
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    Roman529 Moon Runner / The 3 AM Crew

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    Here is what wins Championships.

    1. Franchise QB
    2. Stability
    3. Good play calling
    4. Talent & depth
    5. Coaching
     
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    I notice you didn't mention Brian Hartline as your #1 WR.
     
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    Long, Hartline, Starks, Bush are all contribute positively to the culture. Hartline and Starks performed well last year. The combination of positive contribution and performance is why they are on my must resign list.
     

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