Ireland doesn't know who he drafted

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  1. MikeO

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    Dolphins General Manager Jeff Ireland related Misi's talent by saying he "terrorized" Alabama with three sacks in the 2009 Sugar Bowl. The player with three sacks that game was Stevenson Sylvester, whom Pittsburgh drafted in the fifth round Saturday.
     
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    Sean Smith had a sack in that game he is on the Dolphins.......but Misi, nope!
     
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    haha true my friend, very true
     
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    13,000+ posts and you don't know to include a link?
     
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    He may have mis spoke there. But make no mistake, misi is a high rated talent.
     
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    I think everyone knows who is running things anyway. No big deal.

    Link?
     
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    He knows he had five picks and some being 20 yards downfield. All I need to know. He knows who he drafted. Lets not get stupid here.
     
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    I am going to watch that game at some point. It has been stated on other boards that Misi was in deed in on those sacks, but not the only player. Not a complete misleading statement from Ireland. This will not endear Hyde to the front office.
     
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    Nit pic, nit pic, That's all the experts on this board do. We had a great draft let's be excited! Only time will really tell. The trifecta has had a great record in the past and I am sure they will continue to excel just as our team will continue to excel. Let be positive and excited for the season!!
     
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    That is sad!!! I read this story by Dave Hyde last night. This FO is lost, old and senile. No way you should ever miss state something that far off base. The fact is he didn't know, he didn't have a clue what he was talking about. Ireland made it out like ever since that game, he has practically lived at Utah's stadium watching Misi. Yeah right!
     
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    I believe CK watched that game last night and Misi was in on three sacks. He was not the only player, but he was in on the sacks. Be careful to jump to the defense of Hyde and start calling guys senile.
     
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    lol
     
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    Yeah! I think I was in on them too. Anybody can claim that, but if you don't get the credit, you don't get the sack. Let's hope you are right!!!!
     
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    Come on bud, the man just spent 72 hours of non stop action on draft weekend. Not to mention the crazy 3 months prior. You try speaking to the media after spending 3 straight 20 hours at day at work.

    Give the guy a bit of pass on this one?
    Chubbs
     
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    You people are silly.

    Check the game threads of those teams and you'll quickly see that they talk about how Misi was outstanding against Alabama.

    Misi was all over the field and backfield wreaking havoc.

    Ireland probably meant he was in on 3 sacks, didn't actually make them, but he was causing a lot of pressure throughout the game. Because that's what other people who watched that game have said.

    And what Ireland saw.
     
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    Who is Miss State anyway? Is she as hot as Miss Universe?
     
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    If you check out the highlights on youtube you will see Misi forced 2 sacks and another one which the qb stumbled past the line of scrimmage so technically he wasn't in on a sack. So I guess if all you care about is the stat sheet then yes Ireland was wrong. But to say he doesn't know who he is drafting because he misquoted the stat sheet...... makes it seem like someone wants him to look bad and smear his name on here.
     
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    I'll give him a break on that one! I like our draft, full of leaders!
     
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    ireland is the big tuna puppet--thought u knew that by now
     
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    A lot of guys get pressure on the QB, but don't get the sack. Sometimes pressure is better than a sack, I guess. You either get credit for a sack or you don't. I don't know much about Misi, but I trust these guys do. I guess!
     
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    It is a big difference on what you see on film and what shows up in the box score. Ireland saw it on film, Hyde read it in a box score. I trust Ireland.
     
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    Good point! I don't know much about Hyde, but I do know certain sports reporters where I live that will blow up the every little thing. I'm sure they are everywhere!
     
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    Dave Hyde once again making a big deal over nothing.
     
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    You must enjoy keeping your reputation bar in the red don't you?
     
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    I completly disagree with this article. This is the NFL, not the NBA. You need teamwork and gameplanning, not one superstar. Besides Brady, name one superstar the Patriots had on their Superbowl teams. They won using what was said above, teamwork and gameplan.
     
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    I hear you! I'll try and do better.
     
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    eh, big deal. So Misi wasn't "credited" with three sacks, but as another poster mentioned he was right there in on those plays. Ireland knows who he drafted and Misi is going to be a good football player for us.
     
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    Oh no, we drafted the wrong guy! who give's a **** what Ireland said, Misi's a good pick
     
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    While reading the quote from Hyde that talked about finding game breakers like Marshall "at the front", didn't Marshall get picked in the fourth?

    I'm not gonna say this guy,Hyde, is an idiot but he is just like us in the sense that he just writes about football, he doesn't know any more or less than we do.
     
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    i see all the guys in that pic who we picked up with dansby and marshall and our draft class but who is in the cowboys jersey , did we pick him up??im confused thanks nie pic,
     
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    Funny, but meaningless. Each guy has to DO IT in the NFL.

    Tons of College players with great plays & tons of talent flop in the NFL.
    i.e. Wannstadt & Cam got good draft grades & wrecked the team. (Saban helped)
    i.e. Even Shula whiffed for years & years

    Tons of high school players with great plays & tons of talent flop in College.
    i.e. Coker got every 5-star & THE U couldn't win.
    i.e. Notre Dame got every 5-star for 10 years & can't win.

    I don't even bother to watch YouTubes of players, a few plays means nothing. ... but everyone seems to make a big deal of them.

    BUT, I'd watch a YouTube of every play going against EVERY STUD they played against!! ... don't seem to exist.
     
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    don't be stealing my AVATAR! lol
     
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    This article by Hyde is just trying to cast a shadow on a draft that was smart and secure. Miami had a very good draft. Will they pan out? Who knows. We'll find out soon enough.
     
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    That game wasn't a valid reference point, regardless who was credited with the sacks. It was Alabama in name only. Andre Smith was suspended a few days before the game, which forced Saban to revamp his offensive line. Smith's replacement at LT was injured during the first quarter and didn't return. That caused wild shifts in the offensive line including a freshman forced to play. The left side of Alabama's line was a sieve, making anyone look physical, including Sean Smith.
     
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    Yeah but does he have a good family that is friends with the GM? If not...lol.

    Don't think it is a big deal, I am sure that the FO did not draft the wrong guy by mistake...lol. But it is funny as hell after a long work day to read that he got the sacks wrong. Would be a funny skit...if nothing else.

    I think the Fins can find 2 or 3 good players out of the 1000000 LB's that we have on the team right now.
     

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