Ireland's approval rating

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Do you like Ireland and his direction?

  1. yes

    81 vote(s)
    24.2%
  2. no

    254 vote(s)
    75.8%
  1. roy_miami

    roy_miami 2020 cant get here soon enough Donator

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    I'm going to keep this simple because a lot of people may not like the job hes doing but don't want him fired for various other reasons. So simply put, do you like what he's done with the team so far?
     
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  2. SkapePhin

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    I held out hope that his drafts would be his saving grace. As of this moment, that doesn't appear to be the case. If his draft picks from the past 3 years don't contribute in major ways this season, its time to move on. We need fresh blood, especially since most of the fanbase hates Ireland, so every move is hyper criticized, which ultimately is destructive to the team.
     
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    Whether I like it or not (and I don't), he won't be fired any time soon.
     
  4. Vertical Limit

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    So far 3 mediocrity lovers voted yes.
     
  5. Danny

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    No I don't. I believe he's been pretty bad at drafting. ow having said that is hard to judge this last draft just yet. But I was very upset we took a RT in the 2nd round when we should have taken a WR and if Martin turns out to be a good player9which I think he will)then great but it was still the wrong decision imo.

    Ozzy rules!!
     
  6. Dolphins7273

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    That man doesn't belong in the NFL any more than most of us on this message board.
     
  7. foozool13

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    Im gonna hold judgement for more than 1 game. Talk to me in week 8.
     
  8. Phantom

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    How the hell can anyone look at that roster and vote yes? I guess it's amazing what you can get used too.
     
  9. Cleetus

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    4 people are Jet fans i guess
     
  10. Spesh

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    No. No matter how we judge his time here its been a mess.

    If we judge it by "Hes been paid for 5 years as general manager and had decision making ability for at least part of that": then no. This team's earlier drafts are blank marks on this roster. 1 player from the 2008 draft is left, and the 2009 draft isnt much better. Our free agent signings were horrifically bad and have forced us to sit pat this offseason.

    If we judge this by "Hes only been general manager for 2 years because Parcells did everything": then no. These last two years were just awful. He bought high and sold low on the talent department. And some of the decisions were absolutely mind boggling. Legedu Naanee? Benny Sapp over Will Allen? Marc freaking Colombo? We needed a quarterback last offseason, and every single one in the draft was available except for Cam Newton....and we draft a center. Then trade up for a running back who fumbles and runs upright. Meanwhile other teams fill their voids at center and running back without a problem later in the draft. Mind Boggling.

    If we judge this by "Hes hasnt been general manager because first Parcells was here, then Sparano took over, now Philbin was given control of the team...": :bobdole:
     
  11. BG12DM13CP10

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    ...or dolphins employees, or losers..
     
  12. ATL_PHIN_FAN

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    I'm sorry OP, this is not a yes or no question to me. I believe there's too much we don't know about Ireland's intentions. It very well could be that this past couple of drafts turn out to be OK. He's certainly set us up for a great upcoming draft for skill positions and plenty of cap space for a great FA as well. I will have to abstain. LOL, call me a Jets fan if you like. But, you know that's not true.
     
  13. dolfaneric12

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    I like the fact Ireland finally drafted a QB in the first round after years of previous regimes not doing so. Hate him for the fact that besides Jake Long, the team doesn't have any elite players.
     
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    I like that he drafted Tannehill which was a no brainier, I like how we are set next year. I don't trust he will draft well
    with all those extra picks, don't trust him, hate what he did with the receiver position and it's inexcusable that the online is still
    not that strong all things considered.
     
  15. KTOWNFINFAN

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    Can we please just state our opinions without calling everyone a jet fan that disagrees with us??
    I personally like Jeff from what we have been able to see of him. I like his attitude, the way he treats players, and the fact that so many trouble makers don't like him. I like how tough he negotiates, how he doesn't sign every big name FA that comes along just because fans want him to. I like that he has put us in pretty good cap situation.

    But after all the things I like about him are put up vs the talent of the team I have to say that as much as I like him, I don't trust him being in charge of our draft. I have changed my mind about him and am ready for a change, even though it may mean starting over a bit. I think Ross should quietly be looking for GMs that would be willing to work with Philbin so that we don't have to once again change the direction of the team. I don't dislike Ireland, but I have seen about all that I need to see to know that he will never bring in superior talent.

    OH and BTW if you don't agree with EVERYTHING I said you are a low life jet fan :up:
     
  16. Finland

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    If he was really confident in his picks he would have traded up for RG3 and made a real statement.
     
  17. Wildbill3

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    I guess we should tried to trade up for luck instead. wait you probably don't want luck because RGIII clearly is on the fast track to canton after one game.
     
  18. J. David Wannyheimer

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    Yep. RG3 had a nice game but that Saints team was absolutely putrid. He won't put up 40 points throwing bubble screens every week. Just like Ryan Tannehill isn't going to throw two picks off of batted balls next week.

    Well, I assume they're not, anyway.
     
  19. Finland

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    Willbill3, Luck was not to be had in a trade but RG3 was, that is the difference. And it has nothing to do with his "one game" I think he is great. So far he looks and acts great too. Yes I would have made the trade for a QB that was not a project we have had enough of those. I hope Tannehill pans out as much as you at this point. Listen, I have HATED the Redskins since they beat Miami in 1983, and I don't really like Shanahan either, but I gave them big props for the move and even bigger when they added another QB to boot. It is what Maimi has needed for ages. I applaud things I like, and I liked that move by Washington. Good for them. I'm a football fan as well as a Dolphins fan. We need someone picking players that has some balls like that!
     
  20. So Be

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    Free Agency- Starks, Wake, Soliai, Dansby, Burnett, Marshall, Cog, Naanee, Moore, Bess, Javorski.

    Trades- Bush, Fasano, McD,

    Draft- Long, Pouncey, Martin, Jerry, Clay, Hartline, Thomas, Tannehill, Miller, Odrick, Shelby, Vernon, Misi, Smith, Jones, Clemons, Wilson.

    That's what we have after 5 years, and not knowing who did what, when or how. Ireland has been in the mix. How do you like your team?
     
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    Bush has been good, wake and incignito as well. Pouncy is a Dwight Stevenson, Putting his faith in one or two of the young guys stepping up as a good receiver was a huge blunder. I think he got the right head coach which is huge. No he is not great but who else is out there. We need some stability, I think it was JP who wanted Marshall and Vontae gone because they would not give 100% and be TEAM players which is what Philbin demands. Any body in management likes the trainable, hard woorking,team orientated employees over the talented pain in the arse every time. If T-hill becomes great, he will be a genius. An elite QB makes everyone better.
     
  22. finfan54

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    Everyone is overreacting. still. you just want to fire a guy for the sake of firing a guy. What then? Whats your answer? Why now? It makes absolutely no sense at this point in time.

    You want to ***** about it? ok ***** about it, but the man aint going anywhere for 16 weeks at least. maybe, maybe sooner in a few weeks before end of season.

    But all of you are overreacting to the past. This is a new regime. If you think about it, our RB and QB situation is superb. Just take a look around the league sometime and compare. We just found an acorn who can return kicks, but still all we hear is crap. We found a RT in Martin, who will be just fine, but as soon as he lets one sack in, he is complete crap. The nonsense spewed on here sometimes reminds me of kids on the lot. Our Oline is looking good minus some inexperience and some fine tuning.

    Bottom line for me is we are one star WR and CB away from being great while Thill gets experience. Our roster is not as bad as the media makes it out to be. Mark my words, the Buffalo Bills are going to be so far worse than us come game 16. This team is not far off on paper.

    I cant stand Naanee. It is the one thing Ireland truly screwed up but to suggest that every GM out there gets it right all the time is crazy. Truth is, they f up all the time!

    The only reason why Ireland is so bad is cus of dez bryant. people hate him for that.
     
  23. Cleetus

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    I fail to agree with your optimism, I do not see any of our positions as superb. The man in charge of our talent has created a mediocrity at best and if this season follows like the last few I would hope for an overhaul in the front office as I do not want the current green grocer picking my acorns in the next FA period or draft. How much longer do you supporters want to give this front office?
     
  24. Adam First

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    The fact that he hasn't signed any veteran wideouts (Anthony Armstrong doesn't count) has really rubbed me the wrong way

    And to see Clyde Gates bomb out, another mid-round draft choice wasted, just makes things worse.


    At this point, I don't see him surviving this year especially if we lose more than 10 games. 7-9 seems to be the saving grace though. :rolleyes2:
     
  25. AdamC13

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    :lol: This was week 65 under Ireland.
     
  26. roy_miami

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    So this would have been a 'great' team with Brandon Marshall and Vontae Davis? It was kind of stupid to get rid of them I guess. Then again "great" can be a relative word, by "great" do you mean not the worst team in the league?
     
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    Put that way, I'd have to say it's a great base to build from. However, no way that should have taken 5 years. 3 to 4 years sounds about right to get what we have there. It is by no means a complete team. I understand why people are pissed. But, like I said, this is a solid base to build from and it will be a nearly complete team next year.

    Following years should be just holding onto what we have and adding gravy as opportunities arise. It's also a very young team, so we'll be able to comfortably draft need in high rounds without much guilt or question as to what those needs are as players age.
     
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    hmmmmmmm…

    no
     
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    I can't imagine anyone being pleased with the results of the past 3 years.
     
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    I would put his rating below Obamas, that says it all!
     
  31. Phantom

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    Talk about over reacting, We have a rookie qb who has played 1 game, threw 3 ints in 2 min., and thats called superb.
     
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    LOL.

    16 people now...

    Unreal, that they think Ireland is a good GM...
     
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    He's not perfect by any means, but we don't draft players like Jaquan Jarrett early in the second at least. The Patriots missed on Marriweather also so they all make mistakes. Ireland has his share too (Gates) but I like Ireland because 1. I like Daniel Thomas 2. I like Lamar Miller in the 4th 3. Pouncy WAS the correct pick. 4. Odrick and Misi for the 12th overall pick that year was pretty damn good imo 4. Jones and CLemons were steals 5. Bess 6. I like his cheap *** philosophy and how he gives opportunities to guys like Nolan Caroll who EARN IT. 7. He is highly intelligent and hard working imo and we have a great roster imo again it just isn't going to mesh overnight.
     
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    A great base to build on? Holy crap am I living in an alternate universe. Under what criteria does that constitute a great foundation? Seriously, I think Ireland could take a dump in a bucket, put a mr potato head eyes mustache and lips on it, call it our new starting wr and some people would say "good job Jeff"
     
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    (shrugs) I guess we don't value players the same way. Oh well . .
     
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    Wow. I guess some people are just gonna see what they want to see
     
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    I totally agree with you.. To fire Jill Ireland now would be shear stupidity.. but he must be added on the "To be Fired" list.. Everything about Ireland reeks like dog poo.. but the man has kept the cap under control... Start putting the feelers out there that a new GM position will be open soon and lets see what kinda responses we get..
     
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    lol. eveyrone was stomping on irelands **** before the draft and after the marshall trade. then after the draft everyone was happy with the draft, and looking forward to the season. then what changed? a vontae trade and 4 preseason losses and one regular season loss. now you guys are back to stomping on ireland's ****. some people are just as predictable as the dolphins regular season record.
     
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    Yep, and it's the usual suspects too with their not-so-insightful "if you like just one thing Ireland has done here, you are a mediocrity lover" arguments.
     
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    Look how good DeMarcco Murray is going to be and we wouldn't have had to trade up to get him either.
     
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    How are people voting yes? Seriously, how?
     
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    Definitely not happy about the WR situation. Ireland put all his eggs in the "guys he thought would develop" basket and it may very well cost him his job.
     
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    He really screwed up the wr situation this year basically ignored free agents at position and then ignored in draft until late rounds. I would say the move with Vontae also weakened the secondary qyute a bit. I definately dont care if he gets fired since im sure there are guys that could do better jobs
     
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    I dont think this is a yes or no question. Lots of contingencies here....
     
  47. Fin Fan in Cali

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    Bro I think the lack of FA's sticking and making an impact on this team along with Egnew a high pick in the draft have brought those fans out that were giving Ireland the benefit of a doubt to doubting him overall.
     
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    I voted yes. Now that Ireland has been working on his own for a while, I think he has finally figured it out. I think it is a mistake to keep churning the coaching staff and the GM. We need to be patient and give the coaches and players time to gel and develop. It's gonna take some time, but I think we are on the right track and are going to get there.
     
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    That is the problem right there we all know the Fins record will either be awful or mediocre because we have little talent on the team. Therefore we stomp on dicks!
     
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    15% say yes? I guess syphilis is on the rise. That number will never get any lower and it doesn't matter the dizzying heights of incompetence Ireland reaches or how low it drags our team. There's always going to be a small percentage who don't believe in rocking the boat or are company men till the end or think Zach Thomas should have been moved to safety.

    1 Pro Bowler in 5 drafts and that took the number 1 overall pick. His inability to find playmakers means no one he's drafted has scored more than 3 TDs in a year. The WR we passed on in the 2nd round this year has already scored 2 in his first game with the filthy jests. We moved up to take a RB when the RB taking after him has just passed 1000 yds in 14 games at an avg of almost 6 per carry. We passed on Clay Mathews and Hakeem Nicks (2 positions of need at the time) for a CB we just ditched for a 2nd rounder because of immaturity when everyone already knew that was an issue at draft. Everything about BMarsh was a debacle. It doesn't help that two of his better draft picks aren't on the team anymore. We don't know who's responsible for what but Wake, Bess, Starks, and Bush are the only moves I think were really savvy. He's probably a valuable member on a scouting staff when he has a much smaller role. But running a whole team seems way, way over his head.
     

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