Is Hartline Making Serious Push?

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  1. FinAtic8480

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    Is this kid making a serious push, seems so. Second week he is the opposite starter to Ginn. Something I noticed on Saturday was what a good blocker he is and he has catched the ball when it has come his way. He is also one smart cat who runs some real nice routes. Maybe we found a steal.
     
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    Henne might make a good receivers scout.
     
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    I think Hartline will finish ahead of Turner because of his blocking abilities. Which is good for Turner, cause he can develop at a less pressure pace.
     
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    I was thinking the same thing. Hartline was one of the WR's that Henne worked with when he went on tour with Bill and Jeff. I'm starting too see why Henne gave Hartline such a ringing endorsement.
     
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    But the talking heads at ESPN said during the draft that it was a horrible pick and a huge reach. Maybe the trifecta doesn't know what they are doing.
     
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    cam is probably more to do with his injury still, and bess is more suited for slot anyway.

    No I'd say this is meant to motivate turner.
     
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    The way I see is it Miami started Langford and Thomas last year cause the earned it and won the jobs. Who is to say Smith & Hartline have not shown the same and have truly earn the starting Jobs.
     
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    No way a white dude makes it to 1st or second receiver ;)
     
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    Where is CK's post on how much he totally hated the Hartline pick right after the draft.

    Didn't he give that pick an "F" grade ? Or a D- ? Whatever it was, it wasn't a pretty endorsement.

    hehe
     
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    Hartline started the Carolina game..I saw him get doubled on one play..He had one good catch from what I remember with two defenders on him near the goal line...He hasn't caught alot but must be getting open if he drew double coverage...
     
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    what an unnecessary & vicious thing to bring up... i like it. :lol:
     
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    This staff plays the best players available, its as simple as that. Sparano doesnt seem to play head games he just tells you where you at and how much you suck. As of right now Hartline is the starting reciever opposite Ginn, let the season unfold.........
     
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    I think it has to do with Hartline more so than Bess. Bess will be much more productive as a slot reciever. If Hartline can caan the defender honest, it will really open up Bess underneath...Turner I could see more as a red zone situational player right now.
     
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    Blasphemy, CK is never wrong. :err:
     
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    I agree FinsFan
     
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    In CK's defense he did post a thread admitting to his error a few weeks ago. Me, I'm old enough to know about not questioning Parcell's about FB, so I'm not shocked about how any draft pick is playing.
     
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    The addition of Hartline with the starters even has Peter King talking. The kid is defitnetly pushing to start opposite of Ginn he was shining in TC and Sparano said he wanted him to be more consistent seems like the young man has since made strides and is pushing to start. Besides the physical likeness he reminds of Anthony Gonzalez, alot. Ronnie TD catch had alot to do with a fine Block Hartline applide. The kid is smart add that to excellent route running and good hands and we might have just another steal.

    Im really really liking this draft and it has the potential to be better than last years.

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    Bess would be a liability in the running game if he was asked to split out and block all the time. He is best at the slot with limited snaps at the wide out. Good for Hartline once he gets some plays under his belt I think he will be solid in the passing game.
     
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    being a buckeyes fan, it will be strange seeing the dolphins starting wr being ginn and hartline.
     
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    see steve largent hall of fame.....
     
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    True CK did, I did and about every draft expert in the country did.

    A huge portion of that argument about drafting Hartline is that he would have been available later in the draft and we could have traded down and still picked him and added another pick or possibly two. Remember he was a high forth rounder from the Samson trade.

    OK OK he is working out great so is Muphy and Lex Hillard from last years draft also. Hillard looked like a dart on the draft board last year and he is running light out this year.
    Murphy looked liked he could have been a bit or a reach last year too as we traded up for him in the 4th round he looked like a dud the entire year and he suddenly appears to be like Lazerous being raised from the dead.
    So what does that tell us our draft department is aces no matter who they have selected so far.

    Nalborne and Folsom will be interesting how they work out in this years draft IMO. Still in all 3 cases Hartline, Nalborn and even Folsom you could bet big bucks all 3 guys "would" have been available at least 1 round later. So were they good value for where they were draftr NO but that does not mean they were not good players. Come on look at how many teams passed on JT and Zach Thomas inclue the phins.
     
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    If Juan Huron proved anything, he proved it doesnt matter what ethinicity you are. If you can play reciever, you can play reciever!
     
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    I dont think there are going to be clear cut starters behind Ted Ginn. Its all going to be who is playing well and what the dolphins need in certain situations. We have alot of good young recievers who will get their share in playing time.
     
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    The funny thing is, if it were Turner instead of Hartline in this position, everybody would be clamoring over how Turner has already earned the starting spot at WR. But because it's Hartline that's in a position to start, "they're just mixing it up".
     
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    One point of perspective is that if he's running with the starters he's an NFL caliber starter and a draft steal.

    Another would be that Camarillo is still recovering from injury, Bess is a slot guy, and he's the best we have for depth in a very average WR Corps and he will platoon with the others until Camarillo's ready.

    The truth is probably somewhere in between, but I'd throw my money at the latter.
     
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    Reading this thread just made me think of how tough things would get at WR if we lost Ginn. I mean nobody else really has game breaker talent at WR.
     
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    yeah man, white dudes can't hang didn't you get the memo?
     
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    White guys can make good recivers, It is very rare but it does happen, I guess nobody on this sight ever herd of Steve Largent.

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    If HARTLINE shows much more, it'll make for an interesting situation. BESS played well as a WR, rather than a "slot" receiver, last season after CAMARILLO went down. GINN and ARMSTRONG are the blazing fast WRs, and TURNER and LONDON are the big targets. The ONLY type of WR that MIAMI has 3 of is the possession WR. BESS is younger and faster than CAMARILLO, HARTLINE is younger and faster than CAMARILLO, and none has a real size advantage over the others. CAMARILLO is 30, and coming off of a torn ACL.

    IF HARTLINE IS FOR REAL, I believe that CAMARILLO will be "showcased" as much as possible, and traded. SOMEONE will want what he has to offer, even if he's only at 80-90% on opening Day. I really hate to see it happen, but 3 "possession WRs" is one too many, and like WELKER, CAMARILLO has the most trade value.
     
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    As Sparano said, they are rotating different players in with the first teams so that they get reps with better players. We saw this with Pat White, our two rookie CB's, and Shawn Murphy. It should be no surprise by now when you see depth players in with the starters.
     
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    Hartline is signifintaly bigger than Camarillo. Bigger and stronger. Just look at them when they stand next to each other. I noticed it during the Carolina game.
     
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    And he can return kicks, and more importantly, punts. He is a good value for this team.
     
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    He's making a serious push to be the 4th WR.
     
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    Who did they name the Fred Belitnikoff Trophy after anyway? I forget. What is that trophy for again? Hmmmmm, I can't quite put my finger on it. :crazy:
     
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    hell, i can get a white qb out of arkansas to play receiver. it isn't that difficult. trouble is most white folk just don't like going across the middle.
     
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    Evidently all you have to do in Miami to be crowned an unqualified draft success is catch two passes (and one first down) in two preseason games.

    Talk about jumping the gun. He's a little better than what I thought, I'll plainly admit that, but that doesn't mean he couldn't possibly still end up in the UFL come 2011.
     
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    Jesus you guys, you are seriously going wild over what, 2 pre season games and absolutely nothing?
     
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    2 catches in 2 preseason games qualifies you for the Ring of Honor, in Miami. Or so Greyboy thinks.
     

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