Is their a possibility Fins draft two Olinemen with first two picks?

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  1. mandal24

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    Now that we have our bookend Tackles signed to multi-year deals, the Fins need to find some help in the interior of the Oline. Smiley has played well but hes injured a lot. Satele is undersized at center for the Fins smashmouth football style. Donald Thomas has potential.

    So how would you guys feel if our first picks were something like...(Im looking at bigger Olinemen who can run-block well)

    Guard Options-Duke Robinson/Eben Britton (he could play guard or move Carey to guard and Britton could play RT)
    Center Options- Alex Mack/Max Unger/Eric Wood (Could possibly be taken with our 2b pick)

    Many would like to sign Jason Brown. I'm all for that but we could get a center for a lot cheaper in the draft. Obviously though, by grabbing Brown, we would be able to concentrate our draft on defense and a Wide Reciever.
    Brown will be one of the highest paid centers in the league though.
     
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    would be pretty sweet, most likely will depend on our free agent haul. i would not be opposed to it that's for sure
     
  4. redclamcrowder

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    Wow, could you post that in fewer words, maybe paraphrase it a little bit.:lol: On a serious not, I do agree with you. I think that it would send the wrong message to Donald Thomas, especially when they don't know exactly what kind of play he'll turn out to be (though early indications are, if healthy, our "Godsend" could develope into a hell of a guard). To draft a guard in the 1st or 2nd round would not be a good developement for Thomas, nor a fair one. Some might say football isn't fair, but I believe the FO will stick by their little tank. An Olineman may be selected with one of our first picks, but likely if they are able to trade down potentially out of the first if they feel that lineman would still be available with a lower pick. If Jason Brown is acquired in FA, almost all bets are off on taking an Olineman at 25, or even with pick 2A, and it certainly reduces the chances of taking TWO Olinemen that early in the draft if at all. Remember, in the instance of acquiring Brown, Satele would provide excellent depth at C and likely Guard as well.
     
  5. SRM

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    Nope, our OL isn't THAT bad .. and plus, our FO can probably just as easily spot someone with tons of potential in the later rounds .. aka Donald Thomas
     
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    Add Herman Johnson("The House") LSU.....6-7 365lbs to your list, primary position LG but has played RG and T over an injury free career that saw him virtually tie the school record for most snaps. Durable, experienced and massive with huge upside, slated to go as high as #2 Guard and as low as #5 guard. Excellent push on short yardage (mover), imagine him next to either Jake or Vernon (3rd and YES).....if he is still available in the 2nd round he is worthy, 1st round could see us take a center but more likely is probably LB ( best available) followed by Sean Smith (if he is still available) early second or " The House".
     
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    Agreed, usually there are a lot of hidden gems to be found on the offensive line in later rounds of the draft. With so many holes at "playmaking positions" the Dolphins would be better served trying to get a player like Brown in FA and uncover a gem in the later rounds, using their higher picks for positions like LB (inside or out) CB or WR (though I wouldn't complain if we started the new season with Ginn/Bess/Cam/London)
     
  8. mandal24

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    Problem will be...Is there an ILB worth taking with our 1st pick? And i just dont see Parcells/Ireland going for a WR with the first pick
     
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    I'll admit, I thought the same things too, though you never know these days. There are a lot of wildcards out there in the draft, players like Darius Heyward-Bay who have the size and speed combo this FO would love. While I think it's unlikely they go with a WR in the first, if they manage to significantly upgrade certain positions through FA and a player like DHB is sitting on the board with a grade they rated higher than the other remaining players, I don't think they'd hesitate to pull the trigger. Again, all assumptions on our part, and logic goes against a 1st round WR, but even Parcells acknowledged that Miami has very specific needs to fill. If they can plug certain holes by means outside of the draft (with good contracts, trades etc) I think it would open up the possibility of a player being selected that goes against the usual Parcells style draft.
     
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    Most likely a linebacker/CB in the first round, but thats as of now.
     
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    that would be dumb perfect example donald thomas
     
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    2007 and 2008 he ended the season on IR, but his past 3 years before that, playeed ever game each year... I hope yoos arent calling him injury prone yet!
     
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    Why does everyone on this sight act like Donald Thomas is a future hall of fame guard. He is a 6th round draft pick who won a starting guard spot between 2 other mediocre players. He only played 1 game for us and alot of people already have annointed him a pro bowler. Yes, Im glad he won the starting spot, but the orginization doesnt owe him anything. Bringing in any player at any position that helps our team better should be the plan of the front office.
     
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    i don't think this will happen at all...

    the main focus on this line seems to be the center position (by our FO )

    so if they do draft a center, this leaves us with Ndukwe, thomas, Satele, smiley , who are all very good guards. there are other guys for depth, but they're not worth mentionning.

    We also have a very good situation at tackle... Jake long, carey and ndukwe for depth is a good unit. lose long ? switch vernon to the left and ndukwe out at RT. Lose vernon ? put ndukwe there.

    if they really want to draft 2 olinemen, i see a center in the first two rounds and a late rounder on a Tackle/guard tweener, much like ndukwe, who would bring depth/competition at 3 spots on the roster... on the flipside, they could use free agency to do that also, they did it all year by bringing guys like al johnson, alleman, frye... so they could end up doing so again, but i think they like drafting better than fishing in a toilet bowl
     
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    I think we go heavy O-line, but it will really depend on free agency. If we get Brown from Baltimore to play Center than probably not first 2, but still could be 2 out of our first 3 picks.
    I can't believe how many people think our O-line was "solid" last year. We lost both starting guards, we have no idea if Thomas is going to be good and Smiley has ended his last 2 seasons on IR. I still could see Robinson first round, Wood second pick in round 2.
     
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    I think its highly possible we draft two or more Linemen. I just think some of it will come in rounds 6 and 7. We need another Tackle for depth as an upgrade. We need more depth at G because we do not know about the long term health of our G's now.

    If we do not get Brown in FA, I would not dispell at all that we get Mack with #25 or the others later. I would not discount in any way that we would draft Duke Robinson at 25 since we are looking to upgrade our OL at every position. Bill Parcells is building his interior and being very patient about it. Something this organization has lacked for some 30 plus years.
     
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    Great minds think alike.:)
     
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    i think that both mack and robinson are the consensus top college players at their respective positions.the next question is are guard and center an area we need to address.i think so.would i rather have a nose tackle,inside lb or cb? again yes i would, but the best players at those positions are going to be long gone by #25.
     
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    Signing J.Brown will determine this draft early on atleast, because if we do then I would think we're looking at B.Cushing ILB/C.Sintim OLB. If we don't I think A.Mack becomes our 1st pick and then we take the best player available at OLB/CB/FS with our first 2nd round pick.
     
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    If we don't sign Jason Brown, then taking OL at 25 and 44 is something I would be ok with. Definitely we should draft a center in the first two rounds if we don't get Brown and add 2 more OL a little later. Lack of OL depth cost us the playoff game vs the Ravens more than any other single thing imo.
     
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    I totally agree. I watched his highlights. This guy is massive!!
     
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    If Sean Smith is still there in the 1st round, then he is the pick. If not, Alex Mack in the 1st round if we don't sign Jason Brown. House Johnson or Ron Brace in the 2nd.
     
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    yeah there is another post about Louis Vasquez from Texas Tech. Probably a late round pick because of injuries but he didnt allow a sack last season which is pretty impressive knowing how much Texas Tech Passes.
     
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    I think drafting 2 OL with our first two picks is definitely a possibility. We only have 2 set starters at the moment in Long and Carey. Smiley and Thomas are both coming off bad season ending injuries, and we dont know how good Thomas actually is. We all know the Satele story...
     
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    Not a chance.
     

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