Is this the biggest scandal in Miami Dolphin history?

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  1. AFCMiamiEast

    AFCMiamiEast A True Fan

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    It has to be, and it's funny because of how avoidable all this was.
     
  2. Namor

    Namor Pro Bowler Finheaven VIP

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    Nope...Wanny was.
     
  3. J. David Wannyheimer

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    It's the right scandal at the right time.

    Martin's agent and parents have played this masterfully.
     
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    Wait until the court case all kinds of new evidence will be introduced.

    The soiled jock strap has not been brought into play yet.
     
  5. finfanaz

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    This story lacks the public outrage for me to consider it a full blown scandal. This isn't a black eye on the organization, in my opinion. To be honest, I think Ireland asking Dez mom that question was more embarrassing.

    This would be totally different if the organization knew about this and didn't act or tried to suppress it or something. None of which has come to light and has been shot down by the Fins already.
     
  6. spiketex

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    Well it's bigger than Ricky smoking a joint and living in a tent in Australia.
     
  7. finfanaz

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    Elaborate...
     
  8. ohall

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    lol what scandal?
     
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    Ricky and Saban leaving have to be up there
     
  10. ohall

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    100% agree. However I tend to feel Martin had a fall back plan ever since he realized he was dealing with the real idiot/moron/weirdo Cog. I'd be surprised he didn't share the voice mail with his parents. My question is why he didn't share that with Philbin/Ireland?
     
  11. Awsi Dooger

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    No, this is the one that stands out to me:

    Reese and Crowder arrested for trying to sell cocaine

    http://news.google.com/newspapers?n...m0vAAAAIBAJ&sjid=F9sFAAAAIBAJ&pg=2189,1039438

    It was a massive story, partially because it happened virtually simultaneous to the draft. There had been brewing character problems on the team for a couple of years, but it didn't boil over until the arrest of Reese and Crowder. Shula was visually shook up. Duhe and Baumhower took on added spotlight because the team desperately needed newcomers with great character to come in and create some positive news.

    One Miami columnist compared Reese and Crowder to the "Son of Sam" serial killer in New York. That's how bad it got. The two spent a year in jail and obviously never played for the Dolphins again.
     
  12. J. David Wannyheimer

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    Your son checks out of his football team and into rehab. He is about to be put on NFI list and lose the money he has coming to him in his contract.

    What do you do? You bunker up and start releasing the most damaging snippets of locker room crap you can find to the media. Racism and bullying are things that are going to outrage people and start a media feeding frenzy. Masterfully played.

    Incognito is a scumbag, but at this point, the posturing here by Martin's side is entirely about money.
     
  13. finfanaz

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    So were assuming that in the event that Incog is cut Martin wants nothing to do with coming back? I'm actually curious about this.

    You believe this going to court for Martins money is a foregone conclusion?
     
  14. DuderinoN703

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    Drafting Ted Ginn Jr, John Beck and Pat White were bigger scandals
     
  15. J. David Wannyheimer

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    Look at the way they are handling this. This is absolutely legal posturing. This is going to get much, much worse.

    This is the tip of the iceberg.
     
  16. finfanaz

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    I'm not looking at this the same way you are. What is worst case scenario in your opinion? What is the iceberg? I'm not sure what else, other than Philbin actually knowing about this long ago, could come out to make this so much worse.

    We pay his measly salary and let him go on his way? You need to convince me, because you're making this sound like it is going to be way worse than I believe it to be.
     
  17. PCmor

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    That's the one I thought about, too.
     
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    I can tell you the biggest scandal, hiring Bill Parcels and letting him walk away with millions while we dolphins fans were left in the lurch with that pos Ireland and a team that was worse then before he got here.
     
  19. niw

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    I would be surprised if this type of locker room infantry doesn't go on in other teams facilities etc...
    now you put 53 guys in a room and give them millions of bucks there's bound to be a bad apple or 2 in this case judging from what I saw I am on JM's side,richie needs to be banned from the team and we can't tolerate this type of behavior we are in a battle for that final playoff seed and we should be talking about how many sacks can we accumulate on Glennon right now instead of this nonsense.
     
  20. PhinSoldia

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    Martin is done, too many players liked Cog for this to happen, Martin whether bullied or not is a Rat...who chose to do damage to not only Incognito but to the rest of the locker room all the way up to the person that signs his check..there is NO chance Martin comes back, Philbin knows it, the locker room knows it and Martin and his Mami and Papi knows it. If there is an olive branch given to martin to come back it would a be weak and pathetic attempt of the organization at PR,

    to me this isn't bad, Cog is an idiot that should have known saying those things could have come back to bite him in the *** whether it was a joke or not, but make no mistake Martin is the worst kind of snitch, who would make a spectacle in the MIDDLE of the season.
     
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    lol my man you don't knew the half ...

    Mercury Morris drug used
    David Overstreet dies in car accident
    Underwood quit Football
    Cecil Collin arrest
    Ricky Williams fail drug test
    Marino vs Jimmy Johnson
    Nick Saban
    Joe Robbie kids sales the team
    We draft Eric Kumerow
    We draft John Bosa

    ete. etc etc

    This to shall pass
     
  22. AFCMiamiEast

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    Welcome to FH, and this has all been blown way out of context after new reports I've been reading, but coverage wise, I can't remember the team getting hammered with this much bad press. It was constantly on ESPN today.

    ---------- Post added at 06:14 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:13 PM ----------

    Dude...the vast majority of those are not scandals, and none of those got the type of negative coverage we are getting now. And players get caught/suspended for drug use or connection several times every single season. The coverage of those misdemeanors is minimal unless it's someone like Aaron Rodgers and Calvin Johnson.
     
  23. niw

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    i had a few choice words for cogz on my twitter @p0h201
     
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    thanks man! im delighted to be here.
     
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    To put things in perspective, Ray Lewis killed a man and that blew over. Mike Vick fought dogs to their death, killed one with his bare hands- and that blew over. To look at it that way, bullying a guy doesn't even seem half bad...
     
  26. J. David Wannyheimer

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    Everything that ever happened in that locker room comes out. All the gory details. And it's an NFL locker room, so it's going to be ugly. Maybe not Michael Irvin stabbing a dude in a barber's chair ugly, but ugly.

    The Dolphins will have two black eyes and a bloody nose if this is run through the courts.
     
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    I have seen worse fights in training camp.
     
  28. ohall

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    IMO the only way it gets worse is if Dolphins brass knew about the voice mails and txt messages. Short of that this is all on Cog and Martin. However in no way will the press in general ignore the known facts to continue to try and make this story bleed even more.
     
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    The dead season does not help.
    Somebody bring up a RT sack thread.
     
  30. AFCMiamiEast

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    And a blame the fans thread. We all know those two are going to make a reappearance here in the coming weeks anyway. :lol:
     
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    who cares if it's the biggest scandal; it needs to be THE LAST!!

    Steve Ross, here's your broom...
     
  32. mia4ever

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    sorry it life it wont be ...
    But I love my FINS....
     

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