J. Martin Trade Idea

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  1. utahphinsfan

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    As I was sitting at Golden Corral 2 hrs while letting my turkey & cranberries digest, I had the following idea.

    Trade JM. Indy & The Niners are the most obvious partners but there is 1 more..... The Eagles.

    Chip Kelly said he is collecting former P12 players i.e. M Barkley, Ertz, Foles, etc...

    My suggestion: Martin for James Casey (TE).

    p.s. It'd serve 'Joanna' right to get blasted by those Philly fans.
     
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    I wouldn't trade a 20th round pick for Martin
     
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    I don't see anyone paying anything for Jonathan Martin
     
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    I'd trade him to Tennessee for Erica.

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    At this point, I think Martin is "persona non grata".
     
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    Who in their right mind would want this potential lawsuit making pu$$y on their team? He sucks as a player to boot.
    No one will sign him.
    He is done in the NFL.
    Thanks again for wasting another high second round pick Jeff "the jack a$$" Ireland
    Just pondering the players would could have had instead of him gives me a headache.
     
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    Would you trade for a guy that might not want to play football anymore?
     
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    The Golden Corral rocks,,,,there is one near my parent's house that I sometimes chow down at. I would trade Martin for pretty much anything at this point, if there are any takers.
     
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    I really doubt any team would give up a pick for him.
     
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    Unfortunately, Martin has no trade value, zero.

    GMs won't trade for a player that is certain to get cut. Not even factoring in the majority of teams wouldn't want him due to him quitting on the Phins.
     
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    We for sure would get the better end of that trade!!!!
     
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    I don't think he's going to play again.

    I would NOI bring that dude into my locker room.
     
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    Some GM will take him, but the team won't accept him. Why would they?
     
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    That's what I'm saying. All the talking heads on TV that were former players are all "Oh, well we never..."
    Yes they did. They are just defending themselves now, and I'm not mad at them for it, but they are
    not telling the truth. The facts, as I see them based on what information is present is that whatever
    RI did in the locker room was cosigned by the vast majority of his team mates.

    Martin pussed and broke ranks. Why would any other group of men accept him?

    I know if a new guy came to my shift, and he had broke weak, I sure as **** wouldn't trust him.
     
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    Jim Harbaugh decided to throw out his opinion on Martin and pretty much painted him as a saint. I would publicly call him on it and request a trade. lets see how fast he backtracks.
     
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    He's supporting his institution as a coach. You're right. He wouldn't take Martin...Or, he might sign/cut him quietly.
     
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    I wouldn't be completely shocked to see some one grab him but I would be shocked if he ever started again or if we got a draft pick for him. Dude is a ***** and a crappy player as well. No value there.
     
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    I'd try and force his hand PUBLICLY. After all he felt compelled to make a public statement regarding Martin. I would turn around and answer him publicly asking what he felt martin would be worth to the 9rs.
     
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    Nobody is going to **** in the bed they sleep in. If you do it, you're dumb.
     
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    I bet Belichek is just licking his chops, waiting for us to release him, so he can become his new "reclamation" project.
     
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    There isn't a GM in the league that would trade a pile of dog**** for that worthless piece of crap.
     
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    We couldn't give a team a draft pick to take Martin.
     
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    certain players do things to lose all trade value. Incognito did it in St Louis and MArtin did it here
     
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    Martin at either LT or RT for the Patriots would end Brady's career
     
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    I will bet any ammount of V bucks that RI gets picked up before JM.
     
  26. JTC111

    JTC111 Viva la resistance!!!

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    Why would any team's GM give away a draft pick for a player he knows is going to be cut at some point? It's not like Martin has shown himself to be such a talent that you'd be afraid someone else would snatch him up.
     
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    What if neither get picked up (which is probably the most likely scenario)?
     
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    I'd trade Martin for a cowgirl cheerleader right now!
     
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    JTC111 Viva la resistance!!!

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    Force his hand how? He's not obligated to do anything. No GM is going give up a pick for a guy about to get cut unless they see him as an upgrade over what they have already. This isn't a schoolyard, the NFL is a business.

    ---------- Post added at 11:59 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:57 AM ----------

    Sure you could. And almost every team in the league would take that deal.
     
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    Well I was joking when i posted that but I guess it got a lost in the translation lol.
     
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    I've been wondering Martin's value as well. Unfortunately, I think a very low round draft pick (6th or 7th) might be about all the team could get. I think Martin might end up being a decent guard and it might be in the team's best interest to try to convince him to come back next year.
     
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    martin is avg he have started 70% game in nfl. that mean he can play in nfl just need right coach. right now I don't see none of dolphins ol good
     
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    IF Miami could get a bag of chips for Martin, I would be ecstatic. Martin is going to have trouble finding another team after Miami....Maybe San Fran, because of charity from former coach to former player.
     
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    Beautiful woman that could probably pass block, and show more toughness then Martin ever could....Titans would never do it.
     
  36. phintim

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    Let's face it after his mommy gets through suing the Dolphins and the rest of the NFL her little Johnny will never need to work another day again in his life which is what this is all about. Mommys little Johnny can then sit around his house and wet his pants every time he gets scared when he hears a ugly word and know he has enough money he can find some arm candy wife that will take care of him when his mommy is gone someday. So who are you kidding if you really believe J. Martin really wants to play in the NFL again, he says he does only because it helps his case in court but it is obvious he is going to blame the Dolphins for NFL career going down the drain. That boy is no dummy I keep telling everyone and AJ. Martin knew and wanted to walk away from the NFL the day he slammed his table tray down in the cafeteria and left the team. IMO there is a very, very good chance this entire episode was or org -restrated by both him and his mother beforehand.
     
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    Golden corral lol
     
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    Doesn't matter when all those starts are for the worst OL in the NFL
     
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    What team has a really dumb GM? Well...guess we can't trade him to ourselves...
     
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    It will be interesting to see if Jim Harbaugh picks him up at the 49ers. Harbaugh knows JMart and also knows that he can play and had success with him at Stanford. He also had no problems with him in the locker room. In fact he was not fazed by a lots of intelligent players on his college team. I would not be surprised if San Francisco snapped up Martin for depth. After the Miami episode, it is highly unlikely that any harassment would be repeated.
    Most on here see Martin as untouchable for any team. However, if he is taking his antidepressants, gets physically much stronger and really wants to play in the NFL, I'd expect that some team will give him a chance on a roster, initially for depth as a backup and see how he goes. His biggest negative would be the media attention that would probably go with him. Manti Te'o has succeeded in overcoming the media circus, but Tim Tebow has not.
    If he doesn't really want to put the effort into improving his physical strength and doesn't display a passion to play the game, then his career is finished.
     
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    The golden corral sucks.......about some of the most unhealthy food you can have in there. As far as Martin, can't believe he has an Italian last name. It's insulting my Italian race.

    Ozzy rules!!
     
  42. JTC111

    JTC111 Viva la resistance!!!

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    Maybe 2000 years ago, but that's a bit of a stretch today since the name is much more predominant in many countries but not so much in Italy. Also, Italian is a nationality, not a race.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_%28name%29
     
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    Your really purchasing the koolaide that the Martin camp is selling? Your thread points out that Martin probably has a medical condition that needs to be treated and that Martin also attended Stanford University considered by many the Harvard of the west. If you consider that Martin also studied pre-med as a undergraduate at Stanford and his parents are wealthy, Harvard graduates who practice law that points out 3 very important facts to consider in this scenario.
    1. Martin is very intelligent
    2. Martin undergraduate degree in medicine would put him in touch with his medical condition.
    3. Martin comes from a family of resources. His family is both very rich and intelligent.

    If Martin has a medical condition then one would be led to believe that between his medical degree or his parents resources they would have have figured it out much sooner than just now.

    This whole issue about Martin being bullied and racism is ironic.

    1. Incognito infers that he is going have intercourse with his sister and Martin infers he is going to kill Incognitos entire family.
    2. Incognito texts Martin using the N word but in reality Martin is not black because Martins father is white so we are not talking about racism here we are speaking more about using language and a word that should not be used regardless of the situation.

    IMO This is about fame and money my friend. Martins family is about to make a very big name for themselves over this issue and pocket lots of money in the process. Consider that they are already very rich and intelligent then follow the bread crumbs.
     
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    JTC111 Viva la resistance!!!

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    So tell me how that works.
    You say Martin isn't black because his father is white. The same logic would imply that Martin isn't white because his mother is black (this position, btw, is the ignorant historical view that has existed in this country for a very long time and is still believed by far too many). So if he isn't white and he isn't black, what exactly are you saying he is?
     
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    Damn shame there isn't a Golden Corral in Miami proper. I make the drive to Homestead a few times per year. Lots of great stuff, including surprisingly good green beans. The pot roast is terrific.

    I always get a kick out of message board posters who think they have to rip any of the buffet-type restaurants. A friend of mine used to test snobbishness like that all the time in Las Vegas. He got comps to any restaurant he wanted, at the major casinos. He'd call his wife and kids and tell them he was bringing them take home dishes from the fanciest joint in the hotel. They would rave about it at home. Only then would he laugh like hell and inform them that it came from the cheapest coffee shop at a dive casino.

    Jonathan Martin will play in the NFL next season. Not exactly a tough call on that one. You're asking all 31 remaining teams to share the same biases and fear as posters here.
     
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    Ignorant explain to me why? I would call Martin a mutt like I would call almost any American whose family has existed in this country more than fifty years we are a people of both different cultures and races. Unfortunately we have made an exception in this country for the African American community and provided it with an excuse for not fitting in. Sad.
     
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    This happened down the road from my house at a new golden corral.

    [video=youtube;IKXrL5syc_s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKXrL5syc_s[/video]
     
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    I hope your right about your last statement because if you really believe he wants to play in the NFL next year then this scenario will be over sooner than later. Which I hope. On the other hand my money is this is all about he money and fame and he will not. I will be happy if you can make me eat crow next year though.
     
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    A mutt? As opposed to a purebred? I have ancestors that came from Italy, Ireland, England, and Scotland. The presence of Irish, English, and Scottish ancestry in my DNA doesn't make me not Italian. I'm all of those things. The exception you mention is not one born in the African-American community. It was a long held social and legal position in this country that a single drop of African blood made a person less than white and reduced them to second-class citizenry. Even a person with 7 white great-grandparents and 1 black great-grandparent was deemed "colored" and not entitled to all the rights enjoyed by whites. That's racism borne of ignorance. There's no good reason to perpetuate that kind of ugliness today. If JMartin self-identifies as black, he's not wrong; neither would he be wrong if he self-identifies as white or any nationalities of his father's ancestors.. This notion you have that calling him the n-word can't be racist because he's not a purebred African-American is the spawn of the same ignorance that stained this country with slavery, Jim Crow, segregation, etc.
     
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    Yes, I've drunk the koolaid and really think that it's likely that there has been some harassment. I'm not fixated on the racial slurring, I think that it's likely that he learned to ignore it a long time ago - it is the tip of a sh*t iceberg. Richie has a background of being unable to control certain behavior especially when drunk (possible sociopath, but also clearly loved by many teammates). I also don't think that Martin is just driven by the motive of making money. Call me naive and feel free to chargrill me, but what I see is a smart young guy, who had always done well at everything until entering the NFL and was struggling to make it in his chosen vocation. He has been raised in a very affluent family, had the best education and it appears that he suffers from depression (and Incognito's father has alluded to suicidal tendencies on this website). He simply flipped out in an emotional display that probably disgusts him, but that doesn't make him crazy or simply a money digger. My read is that he is driven by personal achievement and the prospect of a big payout is just a backup scenario. I think that he probably enjoys playing the game and wants to do it well. Note, depression can be successfully treated with medication, but it can be tricky getting the right medication and dosage.
    I thought that it was interesting to hear Incognito's former Nebraska kicker answer in a radio interview. As soon as he heard of Martin walking out re harassment, his immediate thought was Richie has finally gone too far.
     
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