Jake Long not interested in giving Fins a discount..

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  1. Danny68

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    "...'I’d be open to continue my career there, but it’s essentially on them', Long told the NFL Network..."

    sounds like Jake knows he's already gone
     
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    See ya later, Jakey!
     
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    Can't blame him. NFL is a business.

    Dude only has a few years left to make money off of football. In addition now with all the concusion talks and shorter life spans players are basically putting a price tag on his health.

    Who on this board would take say $20 mill knowing they will only live to be say....65?

    ---------- Post added at 11:06 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:04 AM ----------

    Correction average NFL player life expectancy is 55 years.

    Average male life expectacy in the United States today is 75 years.

    Who here would take $20 million dollars to lose 20 years of life.
     
  6. The Omen

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    Hopefully somebody over pays for him, he plays at a very average level and we get a compensatory pick for it.
     
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    Chances are that comp pick will be ommited with a FA signing of our own.
     
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    Jets or Eagles will overpay...Seriously, we´re on a different road, atleast that´s what I percieve. Hopefully we get ourselves a serviceable vet or 2, with one of our picks, and have a good enough O-Line that our NEW set of weapons will be able to thrive in...
     
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    I say we franchise him.
     
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    See ya jake!!!!!!!!!!
     
  11. mega-fin-love

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    No where did it say anything about Jake not willing to negotiate. Pure Speculation. Certainly nothing worth bashing the guy over. I'm not saying we should sign him for big money I'm just saying lets not make up stuff that isn't there.
     
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    Jake Long tag would $15 mill. That is beyond ridiculous.
     
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    Cheerio Jake
     
  15. flippersrevenge

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    Jake can be replaced at a cheaper price tag...
     
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    Jets not in a position to "pay" for anyone. Exactly why they are trying to move Revis.
     
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    Your stat is so flawed, he is an OT, not a RB. Your health soley depends on your position, and Long is not worth what his ego says he is.
     
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    Yeaap, I never read anything that suggested Long wants more than he's worth. In fact, him and his wife said they want to stay in Miami if they are wanted. It sound like its not even an issue of money, but an issue of team need.
     
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    Should have drafted Ryan.
     
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    This guy already raped miami once. Lets not make the same mistake again. See ya!!!
     
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    Why stop there? Why not say we should have drafted Tom Brady or Aaron Rogers? Why not say we should have drafted every All-Pro we passed up on over the last 20 years? Seriously, get the **** over it.
     
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    Because the decision in 2008 was Ryan or Long, Not Long or Tom and not Long or Rogers. I will not get over it because it was one of the biggest decisions that set back our franchise.

    I am happy we have Tanny now, but the truth is the truth. Matt Ryan was the right pick and Long wasnt. End of conversation.
    Chubbs
     
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    much more important positions to fill than an aging, injured lt.

    You dont need an a plus line to win in a west coast system. Find adequate players for the line elsewhere (not in the top round of the draft under any circumstances) and focus on skill positions.
     
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    Don't get me wrong. I like him and would love to see him stay...but we shoudn't overpay him on past production and the fact that he used to be one of the best linemen in football. He's just not anymore. We can get someone to do the same job just as well...with fewer injuries...for a third of what he wants. Same with Sean Smith. It's a no brainer. Why pay more for someone that's gonna do a worse job?
     
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    The more I read about FA and the high money needed for some of these guys the more I am convinced Miami won't nor shouldn't pay that much money. I would use the money and sign Clemons, both Keller and Finley, and maybe Jennings. Then draft 3 WR's, 1 DE, 2 OL, and BPA after that. Invest the next few years building through the draft.
     
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    I don't resent him for trying to get as much money as possible. I don't even resent him for wanting to play elsewhere-- it's not as if this is a premiere NFL franchise anymore, and there's no guarantee that it gets turned around soon. But I'm a Dolphins fan, not a Jake Long fan, so I'm also not sorry to see him go. Yet another wasted first rounder in a decade plus of wasted first rounders.
     
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    He certainly made more money than he was worth with his initial contract when you look at the last three years and all the injuries he's gone through. I would suspect PED's had something to do with this history. It's his right to go for the money, nothing says we have to overpay for services. Miami would be better suited drafting one of the premier tackles essentially paying less and getting some youth. My two cents
     
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    It's a general stat. One that cannot be disregarded. With all these injuries Jake Long or ANY player piles up, who is to say in 10-15 years he can bearly walk, or has to take a bucket of pain killers a day just to make it through?

    The more and more research and time is spend on player safety and health the more not only players but general public become aware that these men are basically putting a price tag on health and life.
     
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    Looks like Jake Long and the Dolphins have come to an agreement.

    Jake Long isn't interested in giving the Dolphins a discount.

    And the Dolphins aren't interested in giving Jake Long a contract he'll never live up to over the course of two careers.

    Move along, bum.
     
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    Melty wasn't even the right choice at QB
     
  31. CalDolFan10x14

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    Looks like the Jake Long era in Miami is about to end. Unfortunate, but we'll move on.
     
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    EXACTLY! I've said this many many times before, I will never hate on a guy for trying to maximize his salary, especially in a profession where you have such a small window to earn, and the fact that it damages you for the rest of your life whether its concusssions, knee problems, back, neck, etc etc etc.

    That said, Jake just doesn't fit here anymore for the type of money somebody will end up paying him. Its just business, not sure why fans take these things so personally its kinda silly.
     
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    :lol: Bye Bye jake
     
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    He needs to realize just how bad of a LT he really is and should accept a salary as such. Although TBH I do not want him back at any salary. Whats the difference if we pay him 10M or 5M, he still is not good and is injury prone. Im all for letting him walk.
     
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    good bye Jake ,Jonathan Martin will be fine wait and see.
     
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    Peace, Bro!
     
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    GTFO!

    and dont let the door slam yer *** on the way out
     
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    I will gladly take 20 mil and die at 55 instead of 75.
     
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    I just turned 50 so that would be tough for me to agree too.

    Probably depend alot on your current age.
     
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    Exactly! Because when you're young, 25 or 30 years seems like many lifetimes. It's precisely the reason why many NFL players don't give a damn. But they give a damn when they start getting older, trust me. By then, however, it's too late.
     
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    nice knowing you Jake oh well another Parcells pick of the team!
     
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    I'M 55 RIGHT NOW SO i'D HAVE TO PASS ON THAT DEAL
     
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    20 million to miss your kids turn into adults
    20 million to miss your grandkids grow up
    20 million to miss the world change
    20 million to miss 20 years of the only life you have
    20 million and the list goes on.

    Probably find a lot more people on this planet willing to give most everything they have (financially) for those 20 years than you will find willing to sell them.
     
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    To some people money is more important then anything else and that is really sad.
     
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    How much of that difference in life expectancy has to do with things like drugs, reckless driving, and weight struggles AFTER football? It's the lifestyle, not the game.
     
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    wow this thread has turned to an interesting place. you do realize safety measures and such have vastly improved over the last 10-15 years right? these 55 year old former NFL players played 30 years ago or so. Times are a lot different then they are now.
     
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    Very true! If people cared a little less about having everything this place would be a lot better. Its a combination of people not doing their part and people being greedy. If it leaned more towards a middle ground this world would be a lot better. Not saying that there aren't a lot of people doing their part, but the few as always, really spoil it.
     
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    One has nothing to do with the other. You cite those statistics as if to suggest that playing professional football shortens life expectancy. The reality is that those NFL statistics are composed of a sampling of very large men, many of whom are morbidly obese (O-lineman, D-lineman). Many have sleep apnea (Reggie White). As they age, their body fat increases, which aggravates hypertension and which causes insulin resistance (leading to diabetes). Many of these deaths are due to complications from diabetes and hypertension i.e cardiac disease, stroke etc.
    Take a good look at Vince Wilfork or even a young player like Chance Warmack. They are muscular, but also very fat.
     
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    Some of you guys act as if Ryan was a consensus can't miss prospect (like Andrew Luck or even RG III). The Phins had the 1st pick in that draft and I don't recall any teams throwing offers at BP to get into position to draft Ryan (like the Redskins did with RG III). That draft was a lot like this one. KC can't trade out of the number 1 spot because there is no consensus number 1 pick . Joeckel (like Jake Long) is considered by many to be the top player in the draft. How was Ryan (coming out of BC after having thrown a lot of int's) a better prospect than Smith or Barkley?
     

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