Jets Cheating too?

[LANGER72]

Name me the more important games?

Tom Brady and the Pats played a MUCH tougher schedule, they actually played tons of playoff bound teams unlike the '72 team which didn't play a single playoff bound team. Great accomplishment by Miami but the '73 team was better w/ a worse record.



The cheating nonsense was put to bed really quickly.

If you think it's top 5 is it crazy to say it's #1? what are your other 4 games by the way?

Really...the Jets cheating is just gaining some traction. Using your methods, if you believe and keep saying it enough times, it will be real enough.

 

[nyjunc]

and while we are on the SOS argument the 70 Colts had the easiest SOS and only 9 Super Bowl winners ever had an SOS over .500. This is a highly over rated stat because it is purely hind sight at it's finest.

Bal 70s opponents win % was 36.3%
Mia 72s opponents win % was 35.9%

Still lower PLUS Miami faced just TWO teams w/ above .500 records (8-6 KC and 8-6 NYG) and ZERO playoff bound teams while Bal '70 faced playoff bound Miami(10-4) twice plus 7-5-2 KC.

Not a single playoff bound team, it was a creampuff sched. Miami '72 was still great and earned their title but this notion that they were the best simply b/c they were undefeated isn't true especially when you factor in their won their 3 playoff games by only 5.7 PPG and their largest margin of victory was 7 pts.

 

[tay0365]

I think it's safe to end this discussion, do some research on the times then get back to me.

:confused: You weren't even alive in those times, how the heck would you know?

Namith was an over hyped player more famous with what he did in nightclubs, the furs and pantyhose he wore, then what he did on the field.

Was that Jets game a big game, sure, nobody gave them ANY shot to keep the game close, let alone win, and with Namith's big prediction, the game became more infamous, but to call it one of the biggest game ever....NO, not even close, all it showed was that any team can beat the other NFL, and that it was a fluke. In year later when teams like the Colts, Chiefs, and Dolphins won the superbowl, that's when the AFC started to taken more seriously.

 

[Vaark]

:confused: You weren't even alive in those times, how the heck would you know?

Namith was an over hyped player more famous with what he did in nightclubs, the furs and pantyhose he wore, then what he did on the field.

Was that Jets game a big game, sure, nobody gave them ANY shot to keep the game close, let alone win, and with Namith's big prediction, the game became more infamous, but to call it one of the biggest game ever....NO, not even close, all it showed was that any team can beat the other NFL, and that it was a fluke. In year later when teams like the Colts, Chiefs, and Dolphins won the superbowl, that's when the AFC started to taken more seriously.

Namath was an azzclown before, an over-rated underperforming azzclown afterwards and in keeping with the jest track record of sexual harassment, was a drunken horny azzclown drooling all over poor Suzy in front of a national audience as a fitting exclamation point to his relevance.

 

[nyjunc]

:confused: You weren't even alive in those times, how the heck would you know?

Namith was an over hyped player more famous with what he did in nightclubs, the furs and pantyhose he wore, then what he did on the field.

Was that Jets game a big game, sure, nobody gave them ANY shot to keep the game close, let alone win, and with Namith's big prediction, the game became more infamous, but to call it one of the biggest game ever....NO, not even close, all it showed was that any team can beat the other NFL, and that it was a fluke. In year later when teams like the Colts, Chiefs, and Dolphins won the superbowl, that's when the AFC started to taken more seriously.

yeah, I have never read anything on it, I have never seen or discussed w/ people who were there. I'll take the opinion of a jealous dolphin fan who wasn't there.

 

[tay0365]

Yes it was more important than all of those games b/c this was the beginning. if SB III doesn't happen does the NFL become the most popular sport? We may not see MN football if not for SB III and they started that asking for Namath and the Jets b/c of how big Namath was at the time. As far as the Bledsoe game, Brady was going to be starting sooner than later anyway. BB's job was on the line and the rumblings had begun before that game. Myabe it pushes the dynasty back a year but Brady would have been starting soon. You cannot really compare games of TV at the height of popularity to what the game was back then and what SB III meant to the future of the game.

Brian Bozoworth was also very famous, but he was not a great NFL player, and he did just as much at his position, as Namith did at QB....would not consider either HOF players.

By the way, Brady was not going to be starting eventually anyway, Brady had already played a bit and he did very little, Bledsoe was the big name, and Brady was going to be the backup unless something crazy happened like Bledsoe being knocked out for the season. Your team finally did do something, they helped start the career of a great QB.

 

[NY8123]

That's not correct.

By far, the Phins had the easiest SOS in Super Bowl history.

Their opponents had an aggregate winning percentage of only .396 that year, and they only played 2 teams that with records over .500, and both teams were 8-6.

See this is incorrectly reported through the ages. The actually winner of the distinction belongs to the Colts (1970):

San D :5-6-3
Kansas :7-5-2
Boston :2-12-0
Houston :3-10-1
Jets :4-10-0
Miami :10-4-0
Green :6-8-0
Buffalo :3-10-1
Chicago :6-8-0
Philly :3-10-1

Collective record 49-83-8 = .348 regular season SOS.

and don't forget that Miami was the reason there was three teams on the Colts schedule above .500 (they played twice).

 

[nyjunc]

Namath was an azzclown before, an over-rated underperforming azzclown afterwards and in keeping with the jest track record of sexual harassment, was a drunken horny azzclown drooling all over poor Suzy in front of a national audience as a fitting exclamation point to his relevance.

You're funny(unintentionally of course), your organization is a complete embarrassment both on and off the field yet you talk baout others.

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You are incorrectly adding the ties as if they are losses. You need to remove the ties.

 

[Vaark]

You're funny(unintentionally of course), your organization is a complete embarrassment both on and off the field yet you talk baout others.

I'd say you're floating on a river called Denial, but I know those of your chemical makeup don't float :idk:

 

[LANGER72]

You're funny(unintentionally of course), your organization is a complete embarrassment both on and off the field yet you talk baout others.

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You are incorrectly adding the ties as if they are losses. You need to remove the ties.

We may have an embarrassing football team this year, but at least we have our legacy to think back on.
Your team has nothing but a fluke super bowl win...and the Namath curse...and the drunken bozo Joe and fat toe pervert Rex as the lofty symbols of your glorious franchise. Oh and your all pro Sancheez, how is he doing this season? Not getting to much love, is he now...

 

[nyjunc]

I'd say you're floating on a river called Denial, but I know those of your chemical makeup don't float :idk:

 

[nyjunc]

We may have an embarrassing football team this year, but at least we have our legacy to think back on.
Your team has nothing but a fluke super bowl win...and the Namath curse...and the drunken bozo Joe and fat toe pervert Rex as the lofty symbols of your glorious franchise. Oh and your all pro Sancheez, how is he doing this season? Not getting to much love, is he now...

Your legacy is 2 titles in 72 & 73, ours is one in '68. All of them are ancient history.

Joe is a drunken bozo but he has one more ring than the guy slinging isotoner gloves.

sanchez will be fine, he's already won more road playoff games in 2 seasosn than Miami has in their history.

 

[NY8123]

You're funny(unintentionally of course), your organization is a complete embarrassment both on and off the field yet you talk baout others.

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You are incorrectly adding the ties as if they are losses. You need to remove the ties.

No actually the ties still have little to do with it. Here just to set the history books straight as to who actually had the lowest regular season SOS:

Ties Excluded

1970 Colts 49-83 = .371
1972 Phins 51-86 = .372

It is what it is you can argue all you want, personally SOS is piece of **** stat. It is complete hind-sight and doesn't take injury, hot/cold streaks, etc...into account it only looks at the end result after all the facts.

Kinda like declaring a winner in a war based on a history book yet to published.

 

[Swantoon]

Your legacy is 2 titles in 72 & 73, ours is one in '68. All of them are ancient history.

Joe is a drunken bozo but he has one more ring than the guy slinging isotoner gloves.

sanchez will be fine, he's already won more road playoff games in 2 seasosn than Miami has in their history.

Sanchez is reverse Tony Romo. If you're team is good enough to overcome his mistakes he might win you the game in the end, but the guy is inconsistent. I really think the Jets overpaid to get this guy.

 

[nyjunc]

No actually the ties still have little to do with it. Here just to set the history books straight as to who actually had the lowest regular season SOS:

Ties Excluded

1970 Colts 49-83 = .371
1972 Phins 51-86 = .372

It is what it is you can argue all you want, personally SOS is piece of **** stat. It is complete hind-sight and doesn't take injury, hot/cold streaks, etc...into account it only looks at the end result after all the facts.

Kinda like declaring a win in a war based on a history book yet to published.

70 Colts opps went 68-119-9
72 phins 69-123-4

1 less win but 4 more lsoses, how does the 72 teams opps have a better win %? Putting that side they faced ZERO playoff bound teams and played only 2 games against teams w/ winning records(each was 8-6) so how is that better than facing 3 winning teams including 2 games against playoff bound teams?