Jimmy Wilson looks like he added a little more muscle

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  1. phinatic1399

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    He definitely looks bigger, that was always my main gripe with him was how little he looked out there
     
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    He does look bigger to me. I'm a fan of his too.
     
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    he will be a starting fs in the future. does look bigger. looking foward to training camp
     
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    Dude looks like he gained 20lbs of muscle :lol:


    He won't beat Clemons. He'll be a good sub when Chris or Reshad get tired.
     
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    Yea, he definitely put on 10-20lbs. Clemons shouldn't be too hard to beat...he's shown athleticism...but nothing else has really stood out.
     
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    He looks like a football player that took the offseason seriously. I am happy to see that he is in shape and ready to roll. With the bandage on his head, he looks like a head banger too.
     
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    Him being around the ball almost every play and being a great tackler stood out to me, before his injury of course.

    I think he took a lot of flak on this board for not catching every int that went his way, but I would say being in position to even get an int is a positive.

    With his 4.3 speed I don't see Wilson getting close to taking his spot anytime soon (barring injuries).
     
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    Clemons I hope starts, but I doubt it.
     
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    I doubt we start two 4.5 guys back at safety together. Not enough speed. If that's our starters then we'll get burned over the top a lot...

    IMO if Clemons is healthy he'll start.
     
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    40 times mean absolutely nothing in terms of playing football, especially to determine how fast a player is on the field
     
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    wilson is a 4.4 guy.
     
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    Very true and I agree 100% but we're talking about Jones and Wilson. Jones was beat a lot at FS (why they are moving him to SS to better fit his attributes) and Wilson was also burnt and out of place at CB often, if I remember correctly.

    Now when it comes to Jimmy, I know that covering at Corner and Safety are completely different, but you still lose a lot of game speed and track speed when you compare Clemons to those 2.

    If we're going to talk about game speed then you lose there with the Wilson over Clemons argument because Chris was all over the ball. He was behind the line, Down field and always closed quick. If you start Wilson over Chris then Vontae better shut his receiver down every play because we'll have trouble deep lol

    ---------- Post added at 08:20 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:19 PM ----------

    His lowest time was a 4.45 his high was a 4.59
     
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    Looks like Jimmy Wilson bulked up to 200 pounds, on another note, it looks like John Jerry bulked up to about 360. He looks really out of shape.
     
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    how do you figure, wilson is a hitter and isnt affraid to make plays. clemons for some reason disappears when the ball is in the air.
     
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    Wilson ran a 4.51 at his pro day on 3/14/11
     
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    What?? :lol:

    When he started for us he was all over the ball. Idk what Clemons you're talking about. As soon as they put him in FS over G. Wilson you seen the difference in our D. Like night and day. We had a fast cover safety that could actually tackle.

    Look, I like Wilson. I really see potential, but right now as it stands he can't compete with Clemons.

    As I said before, if he is healthy he will start over any safety we have on the roster. If the injury is still nagging then I think Wilson takes it.
     
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    he couldnt cover to save his life which is why he lost he starting position. yeah he was pretty good at run d, but his coverage skills where lacking
     
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    No, he lost his job due to a hamstring injury.
     
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    Obviously, 40 times are irrelevent, but speed isn't. Clemons isn't one of those guys who runs a 4.3 and plays like 4.5 guy. If anything, Clemons plays as fast as a 4.2 guy. Anybody who thinks Clemons speed doesn't transfer to the fiel isn't paying attention.

    He has plenty of discrepancies in his game, but his ability to truncate the secondary can't be questioned.
     
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    So, why did Jones continue to be the starter after Clemons was back from his injury?
     
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    Dude is jacked.
     
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    He should be a good special teamer as well.
     
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    That picture of Dan Carpenter (number 4) looks like Joe Dirt.
     
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    While rehabbing he injured his knee last season. They were working him back at the end of the year.
     
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    Look who our coaching staff was. That's a big reason, and Clemons had a bad year for injuries.
     
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    I never really noticed Clemons which can be good and bad he just seems like a safe player to use while Jones and Wilson I seem to notice around the ball and seem to be more impact players. I know they both made mental mistakes but I just see more potential out of them especially Jimmy Wilson.
     
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    End of the year? He played in 14 games...but I guess they let hurt guys play in games all the time...right? Face it, Clemons flat out lost his job. Period.
     
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    We may not have started out 0-7 if Clemons was at FS the whole time instead of Jones.
     
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    He did. Clemons does not do enough to make an impact. There are players in this league who not only get in position but make plays to prevent the offense from gaining anything. Clemons is not necessarily one of them. He doesn't bring enough to be a starter IMHO.
     
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    Sean Smith looks quite a bit more muscular, also. Odrick looks like a hulking beast. I really think this coaching staff is gonna have this team ready to tap into talent Sparano et al could not. I'm really looking for big improvements from these three guys on defense and I'm hoping Lydon Murtha, Clyde Gates, and Roberto Wallace can do the same on offense.
     
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    Thats my concern with him adding weight, he's probably going to lose some speed.
     
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    http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/20...1019_1_chris-clemons-reshad-jones-free-safety

    What were you saying? :ponder:
     
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    I love you Phin, But you have to see is how horrible our other coaching staff was at developing talent, putting the right players at the right spots and just everything involved with coaching.
     
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    this
     
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    Sean Smith still looks like a scrawny beanpole. What did he do, go from 180 to 185 pounds?

    ---------- Post added at 09:39 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:38 PM ----------


    Because Sparano was a complete idiot as a head coach.
     
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    I even quoted it for you, how can you still argue this :lol:

    If you don't like Clemons then fine everyone has their own opinions, but the FACT is he lost his job due to the hamstring injury he sustained in the last preseason game of 2011, not because Jones outplayed him.
     
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    No, you highlighted something stating that he injured himself. What you SKIPPED OVER (conveniently) is that Clemons LOST HIS STARTING JOB to Jones WHEN PRE-SEASON STARTED.

    Hum boy that sure doesn't look like he lost any starting spot... more like he lost it, and never got a chance to get it back due to an injury. Strange.
     
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    Also, notice in that very same article you posted it says how Clemons was too far from the ball in practice and did not make enough impact plays.

    I could have told you that but you'll just attack me with more homer nonsense.
     
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    imo i think wilson is going to surprise alot of people on here , i think he will become a better football player than clemons and jones , when all is said and done look for jimmy to be on top baby.
     
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    Yes, he lost it due to the injury ffs LOL. and your use of the word 'homer' doesn't even apply here. Wilson and Jones are Dolphins as well.

    Clearly some have their favorites. I'm just telling you not to be disappointed when Clemons starts. Wilson has great intangibles, but he isn't athletically superior to Clemons. If he does beat him out it will be because Chris isn't healthy, period.

    Look, what it really comes down to is this; Do you want to give up big plays often but get a couple turnovers (Jones/Wilson) or hardly ever give up big plays and maybe get 1-3 turnovers (Clemons)??
    Oh and btw if you compare Clemons and Jones lone starting seasons stats, guess who got more turnovers? :up:
     
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    Def looks big.
     
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    When the hell did Jimmy Wilson run a 4.3?! lol thats how fast Clemons is.

    I remember the season before Clemons started, we had Gibril Wilson starting, then in his 2nd year, Clemons played decent in coverage, lining up the secondary, tackling, and just overall awareness for a 5th round player. 3rd season, we all thought he showed promise, but instead Sparano & Co. started Reshad all season instead of playing the oft-injured/uninjured Clemons. Jones got roasted a lot at the beginning of the season, but eventually recovered somewhat. We all know his roll is at SS, hopefully he'll be an upgrade coverage wise over Bell. Maybe Wilson could take the SS spot, but I just see FS being Clemons' to lose.

    Wilson is probably gonna be a good backup for either spot likely. But while he is a good player, I'm just not sure he's ready yet, but hey who knows! As long as all of the pieces align, we can just get along, eh?
     
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    1- HE DIDNT LOSE HIS STARTING SPOT DUE TO INJURY. You're not paying attention. THE FIRST GAME OF PRE-SEASON Clemons lost his starting FS job.

    ON THE FOURTH GAME HE GOT INJURED. Do you understand this? Comprehend it?

    Here's a timeline :

    --->--->----FIRST PRESEASON GAME--->---->---->CLEMONS NO LONGER STARTER---->---->------SECOND/THIRD PRESEASON GAME---->----> FOURTH----> CLEMONS INJURED


    LOOK AT THAT SPACE HOLY COW! Are you being serious? Trolling? English not your first language? What is it?

    Second - Uh, Chris Clemons has 1 INT and 1.5 sacks. 1 Fumble Recovery. Am I missing something? Reshad Jones has 2 INTs, 3 Sacks and 1 fumble recovery.
     
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    WELL, it could just to show you how incompetent our coaches were. One of Jones' int's he was simply in the right place at the right time, I vividly remember it was a play where Nolan Carroll made a great play a batted a ball out of reach of the receiver and the ball popped up high in the air
     
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    Lol remember when Jones took a terrible angle in Welker in the first game of the season on the 99 TD pass?

    or when he lost us the game against the Texans because he messed up the coverages against Andre Freaking Johnson. How do you mess up a double team against Andre Freaking Johnson?

    or when he got roasted about 5 times in the 1st half against the Browns and we were lucky Colt McCoy blows and missed Cribbs about 3 times who burned Jones?

    Someone please re-create one of those scenes in any of Clemons games in 3 seasons.
     
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    Ok, first it doesn't say what game he lost his spot, it just says that he lost his spot in the exhibition season and was also injured, so you're just speculating. If I remember correctly Sparano liked to "shake up the roster" and try to light fires under people, so you don't know if that was the case or that he actually beat him out. Again, that's all speculation on your behalf.

    Second, I don't know if you like to count all of the turnovers achieved or just the ones you like, but Forced Fumbles are also counted as turnovers. Clemons has 2 of them from two nasty hits in a Steelers game which I remember vividly(the stolen game). He recovered one of them.

    Third, dude you can disagree or agree I don't care, but at least try to keep the debate civil. Throwing insults is just so childish and last I checked this was a Dolphins site not a Jets site.
     
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    thats good he needed more bulking.he should be able to take one of those spots soon the man can hit
     
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    Im genuinely asking if english isn't your first language because your posting is somewhat choppy and tough to understand. Considering they are the MIAMI DOLPHINS I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't.

    And it DOES state when he lost his starting spot. BEGINNING of the pre-season. There's no speculation there. You're consistently making excuses for the guy. First it was he lost it due to injury, now you have the condition planted that hey if he DID lose it to injury, Sparano liked to shake up the roster, right? Surely that's not Chris Clemons' fault!

    Honestly, it's tiring debating this with you. You have countless facts staring you right in the fact, and you're ignoring them, twisting them, or simply not reading them. Whatever it is, you're dreaming. Clemons is not some star that is being held back by bad coaching, he's a mediocre player who has lived up to his draft status. It's that simple. Watch him PLAY. He's never by the ball. He can't play the ball when it's in the air. He has ZERO instincts when it comes to pass protection. That's incredibly troubling for me considering Cinci's defense last season, which I imagine we will be mimicing considering our recent DC hiring.

    Clemons was losing snaps to Jones at the end of the 2010 season, for heaven's sake. This isn't some huge conspiracy against the guy, he just doesn't make big plays.

    Now, I'm not saying Jones is the answer by any means. I'm in complete agreement with you that Jones gives up the big play far too often.
     

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