Jimmy Wilson looks like he added a little more muscle

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  1. phinatic1399

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    He definitely looks bigger, that was always my main gripe with him was how little he looked out there
     
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    He does look bigger to me. I'm a fan of his too.
     
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    he will be a starting fs in the future. does look bigger. looking foward to training camp
     
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    Dude looks like he gained 20lbs of muscle :lol:


    He won't beat Clemons. He'll be a good sub when Chris or Reshad get tired.
     
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    Yea, he definitely put on 10-20lbs. Clemons shouldn't be too hard to beat...he's shown athleticism...but nothing else has really stood out.
     
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    He looks like a football player that took the offseason seriously. I am happy to see that he is in shape and ready to roll. With the bandage on his head, he looks like a head banger too.
     
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    Him being around the ball almost every play and being a great tackler stood out to me, before his injury of course.

    I think he took a lot of flak on this board for not catching every int that went his way, but I would say being in position to even get an int is a positive.

    With his 4.3 speed I don't see Wilson getting close to taking his spot anytime soon (barring injuries).
     
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    Clemons I hope starts, but I doubt it.
     
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    I doubt we start two 4.5 guys back at safety together. Not enough speed. If that's our starters then we'll get burned over the top a lot...

    IMO if Clemons is healthy he'll start.
     
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    40 times mean absolutely nothing in terms of playing football, especially to determine how fast a player is on the field
     
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    wilson is a 4.4 guy.
     
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    Very true and I agree 100% but we're talking about Jones and Wilson. Jones was beat a lot at FS (why they are moving him to SS to better fit his attributes) and Wilson was also burnt and out of place at CB often, if I remember correctly.

    Now when it comes to Jimmy, I know that covering at Corner and Safety are completely different, but you still lose a lot of game speed and track speed when you compare Clemons to those 2.

    If we're going to talk about game speed then you lose there with the Wilson over Clemons argument because Chris was all over the ball. He was behind the line, Down field and always closed quick. If you start Wilson over Chris then Vontae better shut his receiver down every play because we'll have trouble deep lol

    ---------- Post added at 08:20 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:19 PM ----------

    His lowest time was a 4.45 his high was a 4.59
     
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    Looks like Jimmy Wilson bulked up to 200 pounds, on another note, it looks like John Jerry bulked up to about 360. He looks really out of shape.
     
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    how do you figure, wilson is a hitter and isnt affraid to make plays. clemons for some reason disappears when the ball is in the air.
     
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    Wilson ran a 4.51 at his pro day on 3/14/11
     
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    What?? :lol:

    When he started for us he was all over the ball. Idk what Clemons you're talking about. As soon as they put him in FS over G. Wilson you seen the difference in our D. Like night and day. We had a fast cover safety that could actually tackle.

    Look, I like Wilson. I really see potential, but right now as it stands he can't compete with Clemons.

    As I said before, if he is healthy he will start over any safety we have on the roster. If the injury is still nagging then I think Wilson takes it.
     
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    he couldnt cover to save his life which is why he lost he starting position. yeah he was pretty good at run d, but his coverage skills where lacking
     
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    No, he lost his job due to a hamstring injury.
     
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    Obviously, 40 times are irrelevent, but speed isn't. Clemons isn't one of those guys who runs a 4.3 and plays like 4.5 guy. If anything, Clemons plays as fast as a 4.2 guy. Anybody who thinks Clemons speed doesn't transfer to the fiel isn't paying attention.

    He has plenty of discrepancies in his game, but his ability to truncate the secondary can't be questioned.
     
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    So, why did Jones continue to be the starter after Clemons was back from his injury?
     
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    Dude is jacked.
     
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    He should be a good special teamer as well.
     
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    That picture of Dan Carpenter (number 4) looks like Joe Dirt.
     
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    While rehabbing he injured his knee last season. They were working him back at the end of the year.
     
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    Look who our coaching staff was. That's a big reason, and Clemons had a bad year for injuries.
     
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    I never really noticed Clemons which can be good and bad he just seems like a safe player to use while Jones and Wilson I seem to notice around the ball and seem to be more impact players. I know they both made mental mistakes but I just see more potential out of them especially Jimmy Wilson.
     
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    End of the year? He played in 14 games...but I guess they let hurt guys play in games all the time...right? Face it, Clemons flat out lost his job. Period.
     
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    We may not have started out 0-7 if Clemons was at FS the whole time instead of Jones.
     
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    He did. Clemons does not do enough to make an impact. There are players in this league who not only get in position but make plays to prevent the offense from gaining anything. Clemons is not necessarily one of them. He doesn't bring enough to be a starter IMHO.
     
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    Sean Smith looks quite a bit more muscular, also. Odrick looks like a hulking beast. I really think this coaching staff is gonna have this team ready to tap into talent Sparano et al could not. I'm really looking for big improvements from these three guys on defense and I'm hoping Lydon Murtha, Clyde Gates, and Roberto Wallace can do the same on offense.
     
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    Thats my concern with him adding weight, he's probably going to lose some speed.
     
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    http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/20...1019_1_chris-clemons-reshad-jones-free-safety

    What were you saying? :ponder:
     
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    I love you Phin, But you have to see is how horrible our other coaching staff was at developing talent, putting the right players at the right spots and just everything involved with coaching.
     
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    this
     
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    Sean Smith still looks like a scrawny beanpole. What did he do, go from 180 to 185 pounds?

    ---------- Post added at 09:39 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:38 PM ----------


    Because Sparano was a complete idiot as a head coach.
     
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    I even quoted it for you, how can you still argue this :lol:

    If you don't like Clemons then fine everyone has their own opinions, but the FACT is he lost his job due to the hamstring injury he sustained in the last preseason game of 2011, not because Jones outplayed him.
     
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    No, you highlighted something stating that he injured himself. What you SKIPPED OVER (conveniently) is that Clemons LOST HIS STARTING JOB to Jones WHEN PRE-SEASON STARTED.

    Hum boy that sure doesn't look like he lost any starting spot... more like he lost it, and never got a chance to get it back due to an injury. Strange.
     
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    Also, notice in that very same article you posted it says how Clemons was too far from the ball in practice and did not make enough impact plays.

    I could have told you that but you'll just attack me with more homer nonsense.
     

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