JT Ranks #11 On Gil Brandt's Top 30 GOAT Defensive Ends

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  1. Vaark

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    With Reggie White predictably as the greatest of 'em all. Can't disagree with that.

    http://www.nfl.com/photoessays/0ap3...fensive-ends-of-all-time?campaign=Twitter_atn
     
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    11. Jason Taylor
    Miami Dolphins, 1997-2007, 2009, 2011; Washington Redskins, 2008; N.Y. jets, 2010
    » Voted to Pro Bowl six times, First Team All-Pro three times
    » 2006 NFL Defensive Player of the Year
    » Led league in sacks in 2002
    » NFL 2000s All-Decade Team
    » Finished career with 139.5 career sacks (No. 7 on all-time list, 48 forced fumbles, 29 fumble recoveries, 8 interceptions and 9 defensive touchdowns
    » First-ballot Pro Football Hall of Fame selection

    The ranking seems about right. Thanks for posting brother vaark :thumbsup
     
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    Michael Bennett being on this list is a joke. He came in the league in 2009 and just has 45.5 sacks with just one season with 10 sacks. Cam Wake came in the league the same year and has 81.5 sacks with 4 season with 10+ sacks.
     
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    What a laughable list. There is no way Jason Taylor was better than Charles Haley.
     
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    Add to that Cam almost missing a whole season with the achilles injury...
     
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    That is a joke lol WOW!!

    What about Simeon Rice? lol

    Cam should be on that list if Bennett is.

    11 is right with Taylor. Very ironic Strahan is 10 lol
     
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    I hate when older players are on there. (Obviously that's what all time means lol)

    I'm sure a lot of us on here never watched a lot of them play.

    Most of them would get destroyed in this todays game with the sheer size and athleticism differences.

    Jim Brown was great but it's like Wilt Chamberlain playing today.

    Sure as hell wouldn't score 50 ppg lol

    Gino Marchetti would get tossed around by today's LTs lol ranked #7

    I have huge respect for the greats that came before but they should make it a little more specific or just not do an ALL-TIME ranking.

    Or maybe I should not look at it lol HAHA
     
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    How about having Alex Mack ahead of Kevin Mawae or Olin Kruetz lol

    Those guys put in their years and years of greatness.

    I didn't realize how good Mack is..Damn!!
     
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    Yea Diedorf is a head scratcher . He only played center one season and Cross mainly played guard as you say.

    I would also flip Langer and Webster.
     
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    Only Gil Brandt can go all the way back to the 1948 LA Dons to come up with #25 Len Ford. I didn't even know there was a team called the LA Dons. Gil is 84 years old.
     
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    I don't know about necessarily flipping Webster and Langer, I think Webster is easily top 3. Langer #5 or so, right after Stephenson. Always associated Bednarik on the defensive side of the ball. Don't know much about Gatski and Hein really. Oh well, it's Gil Brandt......
     
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    Haha!! Ya dude what the hell

    You're right..Only Gil Brandt lol

    God bless him
     
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    Now that is truly messed up, and I'm not even trying to say Suh definitely deserves to be on the list but to put Williams on there even?! and Donald at 16?!?!?!
     
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    Right!!

    How is Williams on the list of the Greatest Dts of ALL TIME?!?!? lol

    Donald already is the 16th best DT EVER 3 years in the league lol
     
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    But but but, sniffle sniffle, JT played for the Jets for a season SO HE'S UNDERSERVING!!! :arghh:arghh:arghh
     
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    Yep, agree! Wasn't it Klecko or Lyons that rolled into him?
     
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    Marty Lyons. Dwight's college teammate.
     
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    On this list, which isn't bad other than Michael "offsides" Bennet being on it, JT should be 5 or 6 w Selmon. None of the guys between him and Lee Roy were as disruptive, including Strahan (who I love by the way). All those forced fumbles, picks and TDs- game changing plays - he belongs even further up the list IMO.
     
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    JT's numbers are sick! 48 FF, 29 FR, 8 INT and 9 TD's, are u kidding me? That's what got him first time ballot. He was a big play making defensive end. Not just a sack guy.
     
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    I like and respect Gil Brandt. He's got knowledge going way back. I remember him talking about the draft being held around Thanksgiving, although I can't remember the reason for it.

    Anyway, I think Suh needs to be on that defensive tackle list. Donald is great, but Suh has dominated for a longer period of time.
     
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    Agreed. Compared to a lot of the greats on there and ahead of him in the rankings (including Strahan) JT made far more game changing plays etc.
     
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    first time ballot HOF. what more can he do to get respect? I remember absolute drag out fights about JT's worthiness of making the HOF and there are still guys here who think he shouldn't' be in the HOF.
     
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    Definitely won a few games for Miami with some amazing defensive plays. I think his nine defensive touchdowns are an NFL record and really a remarkable feat.
     
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    Trace Armstrong was pretty solid before JT came along
     
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    Trace Armstrong in Miami was basically a pass rush specialist, who didn't play every down. Good player, don't get me wrong. As was Ogunleye (sp) during his tenure in Miami.
     
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    JJ Watt is the best DE I've ever seen. He will be #1
     
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    Watt is great but he is already having back issues. It's hard to believe it's not going to slow him down sooner rather than later.
     
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    Which is a shame because he's a fun guy to root for. I like the way he carries himself.
     
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    J.J Watt is rated way too high on that list. He doesn't belong anywhere near Smith, Jones or White in fact I could make an argument he isn't even top ten all time.

    Howie Long should be closer to top ten in my opinion. Maybe 12th because he played every single position along the Raiders line and this is my point about Watt, Long was a Watt for the Raiders before Watt was born.
     
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