Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Daytona Fin, May 2, 2014.
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IF thats the case then at least he is being honest. If he doesnt think he can handle it...then dont move him there. He probably doesnt want to move because he actually found a position where he is a solid starter...hard to blame the guy.
Ive never heard of a player that went to the coach and said they cant handle the mental aspect of playing a position. Very odd imo.
I think Andrew Abramson reports every item he hears even if it comes from the maintenance man. I don't trust him especially at this time of year. I have a feeling his youth and inexperience makes him the perfect target for the team wanting to get some misinformation out there before the draft.
I agree. But more troubling is the fact that they are planning to move Wheeler. We should be trying to replace him, not move him.
Agree. I call BS on this story.
The MLB is normally responsible for all of the lineman as well as linebacker responsibilities as far as pre snap recognition. It's definitely not the easiest job and if there is a misdiagnosis it could be detrimental to the entire defense. Hard to fault a guy who doesn't think he can learn/diagnose the keys and set the defense up properly. I'd rather have that than someone who says he can do the job but continually fails because they aren't qualified/talented enough to do it. Part of being a good teammate is knowing your limitations between what you can and can't do.
If true, this only strengthens the case of drafting CJ Mosley. Hopefully The Hickey gets it done.
At least he is honest. Keep him where he plays well..
If this is true, then getting rid of Dansby was even more of a dumb *** move.
This isn't rocket science. Channing Crowder did it for years. Even Chris Clemons called a lot of coverage assignments. I'd be very surprised if Misi actually told coaches he was afraid of calling out assignments, and I'd be even more surprised if the coaches just accepted that Misi is uncoachable.
He makes to much money to be telling them where he wants to play. If they moved him to kicker he should just be happy he is in the NFL.
****ing baby! If true
i absolutely call BS on this report. he may or may not want to change positions, but i'm betting him saying he can't handle the mental aspect of it never happened.
solb is his best fit...would not move to mike
I don't get it...why move the one guy that played pretty good? I was hoping that Wheeler and Ellerbee would play better this year, now that they have a year of experience playing in Coyle's system.
no doubt in my mind a lb is coming with a high pick in this draft...top 4 rounds...zero doubt...i'll be shocked if it's not a mike
Being an "on the field coach" is no easy task, and many cannot do it. Tannehill had to direct the OL in Pouncey's first year because he could not. Ellerbe hurt the D last year in not being able to do it. Jones cannot do it in the secondary, and I don't know how Delmas will work out.
It's not a knock against the player's ability to play, just the ability to read quickly what a play is and get everyone in position. This is a big advantage Mosely has, and Dansby as well as ZT before him.
Misi is a beast vs the run which would be nice in the middle but, other guys are not in position, it's a disaster waiting to happen.
misis not a qb of the defense type player...he doesnt have the instincts to play a high end mike...solid player but dont make him make the calls etc that's not what he is...
let him do what he do...you are getting his best production where he is now
Hickey gave some brief comments on Misi during his presser.
I have to think that Hickey wanting to sign Jackson says a lot of what he thinks of our LB's.
Yep, it was a solid offer too, not just some token offer. I think his interest in upgrading LB is real.
Nice quotes Hickey. Just what we need, another one of these guys, like Mike Dee room serviced it cross country: Great group of guys. Working hard. Total team effort.
Maybe he'll draft well but after that sample I'm certainly not going to pay any attention to his surrounding blabber.
Yeah, and Jackson was far from something special but a coach on the field.
Agreed, just copy and paste for all positions. Yawn.
What did you expect him to do? Hold up a poster board with the Fins draft rankings from 1 to 100. Then tell which players they are going to try to sign as UFA when they don't get drafted. After that maybe he could have then given the link with the login and password to the Fins playbook. Some of the information you guys expect during these press conferences is laughable unrealistic.
We need to retain Zach Thomas to take him under his wing/coach him up! Hell, we need to hire him in general!!!
Looks lie it was a false report.
And if Mosley is the only 3 down mike in the draft then the pick has to be him if he's there. And I think I'd like it. And to be fair its probably the best value, not just because we need another LB but because Mosley has always been rated as a top 10 prospect.
Koa Misi is the exact opposite of Zach Thomas, who always put the team first.
LOL, reports are Andrew Abraham of PBP got this wrong...SURPRISE!! Who would have though someone could outdo Omar for incompetence.
yea just read. supposedly the original report is being denied. I dunno who churns this stuff out.
Abramson updates his article
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see my previous post on page 2 of this thread.
Funny how everyone keeps saying he played his best last year like that makes up for how bad he's been since he has been a dolphin. Don 't get me wrong he is a solid LB vs the run. But he is terrible at pass rushing, coverage and pass recognition. He is so bad that even with our lack of talent last year at the LB position, he was still a two down LB at best. Last year we over paid THREE LBs not just two. How he gets so many supporters with so little production is beyond me. We have seen his ceiling and it isn't impressive. We need THREE upgrades at LB not just two. To be perfectly honest I see a lot more upside with the other two starters from last year than Koa, with the right coaching they have the talent to be serviceable, he doesn't. He has 2nd string talent, and 2nd string production. He hasn't made a game changing play since he put on a dolphins uniform. Just another in a long line of Jeff Ireland 2nd rd bust.
Every time I see the girl in your sig... EVERY TIME! Damn.
moving Misi to MLB is a horrible idea. Funny things is they already want to move the overpaid Ellerbee to another position.
Just another guy we overpaid that had very limited success before we paid him
Misi plays solid at OLB. The problem is Wheeler. Why move Misi out of position because of a bad FA signing?
Drafting Mosely or Borland solves the problem and puts Wheeler on the bench where he belongs.
Ellerbee might as well join him on bench. Be a good backup
How long will people toil under the misconception that if all these Ireland picks are just given more time they'll eventually develop into playmakers?
Essentially Ireland's whole regime is characterized by this kind of player: Epic mediocrity, supported by 50 percent of the fans who are not football conscious nor have a clue about how mediocrity (or worse) kills teams.
It has been so long since we have drafted players that make an impact, for them to get on the field and play without crapping themselves was what we are used to under Ireland.
During Johnson and Shula, they would find a couple players each year and usually one would be a first vote pro bowl player.
Most of us recognized that Ireland was terrible because we have been around long enough to remember the team drafting the right players that produced, instead of players that fit a matrix for a prototype of Ireland's ideal player. Great players play great in college and then project to the pro's the majority of the time. This drafting process is almost over complicated with metrics and technology that blinds people from the obvious.
FWIW, we moved Wheeler last year to the other side, and would be moving him back to where he played well in 2012.
Koa Misi is not the problem. Leave him where he is best suited. We just need to get a mike LB who can effectively tackle in the Draft.
The irony in all of this is that Koa Misi was one of Ireland's better 2nd round draft picks - at least he's a starter and still on the team. The others included: Philip Merling, Pat White, Daniel Thomas, Chad Henne, Jonathan Martin, Jamar Taylor. Lots of failed experiments on that list.
Most strong side backers are 2 down players unless they have pass rush ability. Misi is a good 2 down backer and we don't need him to rush the passer. What we do need is to get Wheeler off the field as quickly as possible. Ellerbe at WLB, Mosely at the Mike, and Misi at the Sam would be a pretty good LB corps. With Misi coming off on third downs. I'd be pretty happy with that defense.
i read most of this thread, admittingly not all of it but wheeler to the strong side what the **** whos idea was that. stupidest thing i have ever heard.
I think that we might have some good players drafted last year who saw little time for a variety of reasons. Jordan, Taylor, Thomas, Davis and Jenkins could all see a lot more playing time. Don't write them off, some will come good.
Dang, you've got more faith than I do, Spike!
I hope you're right though.
When you trade up into the three spot for a player that is -- for all intents and purposes -- a three year developmental player, and couple that with a draft full of players who could not see the field, and in the snaps they did looked like crap, it's not a good sign. Hope you are right.
Whatever the opposite is of an impact player....there you will find Koa Misi. He is irrelevant.
I sure wish I could be as opptomistic as the majority of you guys that the next GM is automaticaly going to be better than Ireland. Sure I agree rounds 2-3 were not that great for him but he still put more players on this team than any GM in tha past 20 years. We have had a ton of 1st round busts along with entire drafts over that period. Hickey coming from Tampa Bay did not impress me. I interperation after most everyone else turned us down for a coveted GM position is that Ross and Aponte were just looking for a Yes man and go one in Hickey.