Landry and Stills #9 in top ten duo recivers for 17 season.

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    I feel like Landry and Stills are #9 on the list
    Stills and Parker are #6 on the list
    Landry and Parker are #2 on the list.
     
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    I understand the love for the Pats but to have Edelman and Cooks on there when they haven't played one snap together just doesn't sit right with me. Same with OBJ and Marshall.
     
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    Now if we added Julio Jones to our corp would we really be upset about people rating our receivers higher even though he hadn't played a game for us yet? I'm not saying Cook or Marshall are as good as Jones, just that this is just someones opinion about what they expect in 2017. I wouldn't get too worked up over it either way,
     
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    These articles remind me of just how entitled and spoiled I was during the Marino era.

    However, this article should grow the chip on Parker's shoulder.
     
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    You should have seen Paul Warfield. He was a duo in and of himself.
     
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    I chuckled. Parker will be better than both them by in 3 months.
     
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    In terms of trio of WRs, Parker/Stills/Landry is probably top 5 in the NFL.
     
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    Yeah, if we're measuring potential, and not production.
     
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    Damn Desean and Mike have really put on a show so far...

    Definitely warrants them being the 2nd best WR Corp in the league lol

    I'd put Landry and Parker over Landry and Stills.

    If this is "what could possibly happen rankings" sure put Odell and Marshall top 3 and Jackson and Evans top 5.

    But don't neglect Landry and "what could possibly happen" with Parker. They could be top 3 if Parker steps up and plays to full potential.

    At least we're ranked lol
     
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    I would take Jackson and Evans over any combination of two Dolphin receivers right now every single Sunday - Parker might be great, but as of right now, those two are definitely a more sure thing.
     
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    Stills is the best deep ball WR in the NFL. Not because of his speed but because he is the best at adjusting to the ball in the air. Landry is the best slot in the game. I assume you mean Desean Jackson? He is not better then Stills imo. Vincent is too old if that's who you mean. Solid WR core though
     
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    In my opinion, DeSean Jackson is a definitively better overall receiver and still a more dangerous deep threat than Stills (who I like).
     
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    Have you ever seen Jackson block on a screen?

    He's a better player at running in a straight line downfield.. that's it.
     
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    I like Kenny, but have you ever seen Stills block on a screen?

    Not exactly a ringing endorsement for one player over another here in this comparison.
     
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    Randall Cobb & Jordy Nelson as #1 duo? Cobb has only had a single 1k season in 6 years and had 610 yards and 4 td's last year for a 10 yard average. Way too high.
     
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    I think ability to block is low on the list when comparing WRs. It is a factor though. Stills nor Jackson are great route runners either which is much more important for a WR. Maybe I'm biased but I do think Stills is better at this point at least
     
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    I'm not arguing which of the two is better (honestly don't really care as they are both really good), just thought the blocking argument was a poor one.

    I'd say Stills and Jackson are very good and nuanced route runners. It's not easy to get open deep in the NFL. Often you're dealing with two DB's in trying to sell the safety off your intentions while also having to restack the corner.
     
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    The Bengals game sticks out to me. Kenny rerouted to the corner away from the safety. You have to know when and where to make adjustments in your route. Thankfully he and Tannehill have built a good relationship and both saw the same thing
     
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    Jordy Nelson and Randall Cobb #1? Cobb has been living off reputation for the past two years.
     
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    Ya and they both live off of the best QB in the league.

    It's no surprise Jordy (14) and Adams (12) were #1 and #2 in TDs on the same team!! lol

    That's no coincidence or greatness. It's A-rod

    I would love to see Jordy on a team with a good Qb and not the "best I've ever seen"
     
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    Not to question your opinion because it's yours and we all have one lol

    You honestly think Kenny is the best deep ball receiver in the NFL?

    Does that mean guys that only go deep like Stills, Wallace, Djax or any receiver that are deep ball threats?

    I'm kind of shocked by that only because there's tons of receivers that aren't known as strictly "deep ball" receivers that are way better at catching the deep ball than Kenny.

    Deep Balls over 20 yds and over 40 yds
    Julio(27)(5), Brown(22),(3), Beckham(20),(6), Evans(15),(1), Aj Green(15),(4) in 10 games, Michael Thomas(18),(1), Hilton(28)(2), Cooper(21),(5), Cooks(15),(6), Jordy(19),(4), Tyrell Williams(19),(6), Benjamin(10,(6) etc..

    Desean had (19) and (5) 40 yds receptions
    Stills had (10) 20 yds and (4) 40 yds receptions
    Landry had (16) 20 yds and (3) 40 yds receptions
    Parker had (9) 20 yds and (4) 40 yd receptions

    It's crazy when people act like Landry can only play slot yet led his team in catches over 20 yds and 1 behind our two "speed" receivers. Parker will shatter that number this year IMO.

    I'm assuming you mean the category of strictly "deep ball" receivers, that more than not, run a go route.

    I do agree that Kenny contorts his body very well and above some of the best.

    PHINS UP!!! Season is almost upon us!!
     
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    Well to be clear I am excluding #1 types like Julio because yes I think Stills is more of a specialized deep threat. But stats cant really be the end all in this debate. If you consider Jackson a deep threat guy I think you have to factor in targets. He gets more targets then Stills, targets are something to consider. Average Ypc is something better for this comparisons sake
     
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    If this isn't the year Parker supplants Stills on the duo list, I'll have a hard time believing any further hype on the kid. I love hearing about how he is going to break out this year, but this is a definite "show me" scenario in my opinion. Curious how many others here are really pessimistic about Parker breaking out this year. I hope like hell I'm wrong to feel that way.
     
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    How long have Edelman and Cooks been realing in passes together? I mean hell they have to be right up there with the Mark's brothers in terms of years together and yardage combine amiright?
     
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    Oh okay just dudes that are deep threats.

    Makes sense.

    I don't think Stills is the best deep threat in the NFL and trust me if he was I'd be the first to talk $hit to others lol

    One pretty good season shouldn't trump Desean's career of being the league's best. (Had over a 1000yds still)

    I hate to say it but we're going to have to put Desean on his A$$ in Week 1.

    Who's a "deep threat" in your opinion? Just asking.. Not being a prick just to clarify a little better

    IMO Desean is exactly what a deep threat is and always has been.

    Wouldn't Stills get more targets if he was the "best deep threat in the NFL?"
     
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    No offense taken you are a good poster and I know your intent is not malicious.

    When I think of deep threats Desean does come to mind as does a guy like Goodwin and Cooks. So that's my starting point, guys who aren't quite complete WRs but you have to account for them deep
     
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    Gotcha!! Thanks brother!! I appreciate that

    Yes Kenny is def in that category. I do think he's capable of more and hopefully he shows us.

    He does have an uncanny ability to contort his body better than most deep threats.

    I think the Dolphins are hoping the same with that contract lol 4yr $32 million

    PHINS UP!!! The season is almost here!! Now lets whoop some Tampa A$$!!!!
     
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    Kenny <3



    Easily my faovurite Dolphins WR atm. Parker needs to step up this year
     
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    You are a Landry hater that's why :banhappy lol
     
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    We were dead last for the amount of offensive plays in the NFL with only 913. For comparison the Rams were 31st with 960. That factor limited our offensive personnel's production and opportunities.
     
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    Ya that's a huge hinderance on our offense and needs to change if we're going to be a top12 Offense this year.

    Quick question since I know you study a lot of football..

    Who's the best "Deep Threat" in your opinion?

    It's hard for me not to say Desean since he's "literally" made a living off of being the league's best deep threat in the last decade? (Could be wrong just my opinion)
     
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    Yea and Landry absolutely dominated our targets
     
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    It's def fair to say I'm a little biased due to the encounters I had with Kenny while he was on the Saints..

    Dad was a total **** lol Has anyone met Kenny as a Fin? He could've changed his attitude towards autographs?

    Our Fins are awesome when it comes to getting autographs..(Nicest team in the NFL in the 17 years I've been doing it)
     
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    Removing the elite WR's who can do it all (Bryant, Jones, Green, etc.) and focusing on those who are primarily used as so along with consistency, it's the two being discussed plus one: DeSean Jackson, T.Y. Hilton, and Kenny Stills.

    Brandin Cooks is unfortunately another up and comer. And I say "unfortunately" b/c he is know in our division.
     
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    Pierre Garcon deserves a mention I think
     
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    There's some many variables.

    Was our Offense geared around Landry? Did our line not allow enough time for Stills to get open?

    Desean has 100 targets and Kenny had 81 so that's a fair point.

    I hope Stills turns out to be Desean minus the "crip" walk after scoring a TD lol

    I just met Desean at a local Bucs event and you would think he'd be cool to his new fan base..NOT!! lol
     
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    Ya Hilton is probably the best Deep Threat in the league.

    He had more yds from the slot than the outside..Surprised by that

    We all know Cooks will be great by this time next year lol Sucks but they're still the Pats
     
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    I do agree with that
     

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