Lattimore turning Pro

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  1. trojanma

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    Understandable decision by the kid.

    Would you guys take a flyer on him with one of the late 3rd's or the 4th.
    We could easily stash him away for a year with the RB depth we have and he could eventually replace DT.

    He is an injury risk but the knee was repaired by Dr. Andrews here and more of a fluke hit than anytihng else.

    He is a high character guy with a tremendous work ethic.
     
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    Yes for a 4th.
     
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    Hell no. Running backs are a dime a dozen.
     
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    It will be interesting to see if comes to the combine and what he does or if he comes at all. I am not expecting much. You are right when you say he is a high character guy. It depends on how he checks out medically. That was a horrific injury he had. If he can be taken after the 4th, I would not mind taking a flyer on him if he is OK medically. I think alot of teams are going to be scared away.
     
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    I would say nothing higher than a sixth round pick or waiting on him as a free agent signing.
     
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    At worst, you finally have a money short-yardage back. At best, he recovers, and he makes good on his talent. He's a very gifted runner. He's just not very fast. I think he'd look great in a ZBS. Like his vision.
     
  7. trojanma

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    I seriously doubt he will do much of anything at the combine.
    He will be 4 months post-op which is way to early to engage any sort of cutting. Considering the injury he faced.
    Plus any sort of measurables will really be skewed.

    We throw away picks for guys like Gates, Egnew, Turner all the time.

    This kid will be successful if he can avoid future injuries. He is an investment. Plus he will be grateful to anyone who drafts him and work his tail off.
    In a draft that we have loads of mid round picks I would absolutely use our Chicago 3rd or own 4th and do it if he is still around.

    Finally he will be cheap. You immediately put him on IR so he doesnt take a roster spot for the next season and bring him in line for 2014.

    To me it is a no brainer if he is available for our Chicago 3rd or 4th.
    I doubt he is around in the 5th.
     
  8. j-off-her-doll

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    It'll depend who falls to each of these picks, but speaking in general, I agree.
     
  9. MoFinz

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    I'd take him....i remember wishing during his freshman year that he would fall to us...of course, i assumed we would be better and have no shot at him.

    Give him to me for a 4th.....and lets hope he's not Yatil Green 2k13
     
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    I'd take him in the 4th round. Absolutely. If MahGahee and Gore can recover so can Lattimore.
     
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    he won't do anything on the field work wise at the combine...he may not be even ready by next training camp...that said i would absolutely be willing to use a 4th round pick on him...but no earlier...
     
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    If he hadn't gotten hurt, what part of the first round would he have been projected?
     
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    ehhh.....a 4th is a round too high
     
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    The full recovery rate for ACL injures has gotten so good in the past few years that its definitely worth it to take a shot on this kid. His injury was particularly bad, but its really just a matter of time before he is back up and running. This team isnt looking to win a SB next year, so giving this kid a year to heal up is a solid investment. He is talented as hell and God knows we need that.
     
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    all i know is we need to do something...i can't watch reggie bush dance at the los anymore b/t the tackles or bounce everything outside blocked to go up in...

    give me one cut and north and south with some damn finish...
     
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    Give me Reggie all day every day over Daniel 3.5 YPC Thomas. Daniel Thomas is one of the least effective running back that get significant carries in the league. I dont mind keeping Reggie. He is one of the few weapons we have on offense that scare people.
     
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    I don't think Miami's RB situation looks very good down the line either. Thomas is just a warm body and I saw Lamar Miller for what he was from the beginning. I'd much rather have had Robert Turbin, and Alfred Morris has turned out to be every bit the sleeper talent I kept saying he was. I can't understand what makes a GM trade up for the RB's that Ireland trades up for.
     
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    alfred morris benefits from that scheme somewhat i'd say...he's definitely productive and he's got some skills but i see a kid that's taking way too much contact already...he better hold out on that 2nd contract if he gets to one still healthy cause when he starts to fall off it's gonna be quick...kids getting hammered

    personally i'd tell lamar miller to get his head in the game this offseason and get on the weights and know the damn o and expect to get 12-15 carries per next year...i think with a year to get ready miller can do some things...bush i'd tell bye bye

    thomas is not getting it done as a ball carrier either but i'd rotate him with a guy like chris ivory a downhill veteran who runs behind his pads and runs angry and can be had on the cheap...hell give me joquie bell if he somehow hits the streets again...just give me guys who put a foot in the ground and get upfield...

    i'd also consider a mid round pick on a back...a big back
     
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    Miller has looked good running the ball this year. He has been used in small doses presumably because of blocking issues, but I think he ends up being a solid contributor at some point. Really, I think he would be the perfect compliment to a guy like Lattimore. All of your criticisms of Miller are true, but I dont think they necessarily stop him from being a solid 4th round pick up.
     
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    I see the opposite with Morris. I see a kid that's dishing out punishment to tacklers. This is the back he is... it's how he runs. Behind his pads. It's exactly what I liked about him as a prospect, I even compared his style to a young Ronnie Brown. You're not looking to get 10 years out of a late round pick at RB. The idea is to get as much production as possible as quickly as possible, as opposed to 10 years of sitting on the bench. A RB's best asset is always their youth. The scheme in Washington also benefits from Alfred Morris... he's a better back than anything Miami has on their roster. I will always disagree on Lamar Miller.... he's not my type of back. Hell, the Eagles picked a RB in the 7th round who only had 104 carries in college and hadn't played significantly since 2009 that's better than Lamar Miller.
     
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    I'd take lamar miller in the fourth round, everytime i was afforded the chance.
     
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    There's a chance Lattimore is doing this to cash in on his insurance policy. If he declares and doesn't get drafted, he gets his insurance payout. If he declares and does get drafted, he gets paid to rehab. It's a win-win. He gains nothing from coming back.
     
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    bryce brown can play...problem is though he can't hold onto the ball...balls way too much away from his body and he's paying for it...but that kid can play...
     
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    too bad Bryce is a headcase
     
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    Pretty Cool Article on Lattimore's Injury

    COLUMBIA — For a few minutes, Archie Lattimore thought it was over. The years of sweating through practices, the hours in the weight room — all for naught now, as his son, Marcus, lay on his back down there on Williams-Brice Stadium’s grass.

    It wasn’t supposed to happen like this.
    Marcus had already shown enough talent as a South Carolina running back to cash in with the NFL. But what now? One helmet to the right knee during this Oct. 27 game against Tennessee, and nothing seemed for sure anymore, not even Marcus playing again. The sudden, awkward bend in his knee looked that catastrophic.
    “Gut-wrenching,” is all Archie can still say about the moment.
    Archie didn’t let the thoughts of finality linger. He rushed from the stands to the area just off the field where a cart transported Marcus. Archie stood there as the cart arrived. He hugged his son, who wept while the cart drove him off the field. Archie swallowed his own fears and told Marcus everything would be OK.
    “He didn’t think so at the time,” Archie said. “He thought everything was over with.”
    Marcus told his dad as much right there. Many who witnessed the injury at Williams-Brice or watched the gruesome replays on television probably thought the same thing.
    Forty-six days later, on Wednesday afternoon, Archie sat in the bowels of Williams-Brice and watched his son declare for the NFL draft. He listened to USC team doctor Jeffrey Guy detail all the things that amazingly went in Lattimore’s favor with the injury, and why Lattimore should be able to play again. And Archie spoke with hope about the future.
    “There’s nothing else to prove as a running back in college here,” Archie said.
    Lattimore’s recovery period is 12 to 15 months post-surgery. He is progressing normally, Guy said, but won’t be ready work out at February’s NFL combine. He will attend to meet with teams. Their doctors will poke, prod and MRI his right knee and his left, which suffered an anterior cruciate ligament tear in 2011. He knows there are questions about his future, but he isn’t worried.
    “I wouldn’t change anything that happened these past three years because it made me a better person, it made me a better man and it’s going to make me a better person in the future, knowing that I can get through anything,” he said. “I will get through this.”
    The news broke Monday that Lattimore would turn pro. Given the small earning window for NFL running backs, it surprised no one. Archie said his son made the decision “a few weeks” ago.
    “I 100 percent agree that Marcus should turn pro,” said USC coach Steve Spurrier. “At some point, when you can really play this game the way Marcus can, you need to be financially rewarded.”
    To understand why Lattimore has that option now — and why, according to Guy, he might even be ready to play at the end of the 2013 NFL season — you must first consider the tiny part of the human body known as the peroneal nerve. This is the erve that provides sensation to the top of your foot and allows you to bend your ankle so that your foot and toes move slightly upward. It must work if you expect to make millions carrying a football.
    Shortly after Lattimore was transported off the field, Guy began examining him at the stadium. Knee dislocations like the one Lattimore just suffered sometimes result in peroneal nerve damage, so the first thing Guy needed to do was make sure this nerve still worked in Lattimore’s right knee. He asked Lattimore to move his foot upward.
    After all those practices and weight-lifting sessions and running past defenders, this simple exercise was, at this moment, the single most consequential physical feat Marcus Lattimore would ever accomplish at USC. Guy looked at Lattimore’s foot, knowing what the result of this test could mean for Lattimore’s promising future.
    It moved.
    “That’s a big deal,” Guy said Wednesday.
    James Andrews, the renowned orthopedic surgeon and Guy’s mentor, called a few minutes later. He asked about the nerve. Guy delivered the good news. More positive tests followed. Lattimore had not damaged the bones, blood vessels or cartilage in his knee — all potential complications when you dislocate a knee and tear three of four ligaments, as Lattimore did.
    By the time Guy, Andrews and Lyle Cain operated on Lattimore six days after the injury, they knew his prognosis was positive. During surgery, Lattimore required complete reconstruction of just one ligament, the anterior cruciate. Earlier this week, Lattimore got off crutches.
    As he looked to the future Wednesday, he still remembered how he initially felt nothing when the helmet hit his knee, how he quickly “went into shock” and how his self-pity disappeared a couple days after the injury when teammate and friend Dylan Thompson visited him at home and told him, “Remember, God doesn’t make mistakes.”
    At USC, they will remember Lattimore for how he helped change a football program. He ran for a school-record 38 touchdowns in just 29 career games. The Gamecocks, middling before his arrival in 2010, are 30-9 since.
    The last time many people saw him at Williams-Brice, he rode away on that cart, incapacitated, a towel over his head. For a smaller audience Wednesday, he said his choked-up goodbyes, then led his family down a hallway, while accepting well-wishes. He stood tall in his black suit and walked out on his own.
     
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    it something about that man he can play dolphins if u get chance in 4th rd pick him... he change south carolina gamecock program
     

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