Let's talk free agency (step 1)

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  1. Tannchise

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    I want to start with the Oline. I would prefer Tunsil move to guard, but doesn't seem that will happen. What FA's are you guys looking at and for what positions? I assume depth or starter, guard, RT and C are all in play? Can we build this line with players around the $5M salary line, vs the upper tiers of salary? have you heard of any cap casualties?
     
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    Step 1 is re-signing your own.
     
  3. Tannchise

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    isn't that a problem? I mean don't we have to start looking outside for help. I think we have more internal issues
     
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    This past season is a wash for me, i'm taking the level of play with a carton of Morton salt. You are a big proponent of bringing back Landry and that will be addressed before free agency begins as will other players. If Landry hits the market doubt he will be a Dolphin in '18. So that should open the bank a bit if he does. I trust Gase to keep his players that he believes in and trusts. Need to see the cuts and re-signs first before we can start the wish list. I'm tired of winning or should I say attempting to win free agency. Swing for the fences is the approach I want, go after a top shelf player or two rather than over paying for a bunch of middlings. Depend on the draft (for the love of god, no more trades) and developing our own. This team will be better regardless of free agency.
     
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    So the 1st move you would make to fix this team is move Tunsil to guard?
     
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    i don't think we're going to be big players in the FA market this year

    1st step is telling Tunsil he's our LT for life and he needs to get that imprinted into his head

    2nd step is restructuring suh , maybe wake...

    i'm more concerned about re-signing our guys than going shopping
     
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    Awsi has the best FA strategy I’ve seen.

    Go for 2-0 in FA. Pick 2 players who are above what you have at important positions and go get them.

    Not the Suh’s of the world but pretty darn good football players.
     
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    After Miller and Vernon left, we made a real effort to sign "our own". And what happened? Stills maybe OK, but Alonzo and Branch ended up with 2 contracts that turned out to be disasters.
     
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    If you moved Tunsil to guard, you could Pick Mcglinchey at 11 to solve the LT issue. I'm not sure if that would make us better though.
     
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    Addition by subtraction. Get rid of Pouncey, James and Bushrod. Grab one free agent guard/center and let Smith, Davis and Sterup compete for the right side.
    Tunsil is the LT and give Brendel a chance to start at Center

    Ozzy rules!!
     
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    Sign our own is first but second is Cameron Brate. If Tampa decides to let him walk because of OJ Howard, we need to be all over that kid. Jimmy Graham would be my second choice and probably have a better chance to get him as he'd be coming home.
     
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    Miller and Vernon both went to the U and also were drafted by Miami. Those two are “our own”. Branch and Alonso don’t apply to that.
     
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    Any idea how much we can save in no brainer cuts like Julius Thomas? What is the easiest fat to trim. It saddens me to say, but I think Wake and Landry are goners.
     
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    I think FA should be an afterthought for this team, unless it is someone young and won't break the bank. We need to concentrate on the draft and build this team that way instead of going out and making headlines with the next big splash.
     
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    Guys like Sefarian-Jenkins or Trey Burton would be good additions. They give us what we need at TE, they're young, and I don't think they will break the bank. If we can't draft one early, I like either of these. I think Eifert will be too expensive and not sure he'll stay healthy and Jimmy Graham is too old...Luke Willson isn't a bad choice either.
     
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    The problem with that thinking is most of our guys aren't worth resigning. The only one I really want back in Jarvis Landry. The others can hit the road as far as I'm concerned. I don't even want Jawuan James back.
     
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    nope never said that. I said I'd like it, but they are going to leave him there, and I accept that. Not breaking down the door for it. But if it's a problem again this year, we have to move him
     
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    $6M
     
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    issue is replacement...in an open market world you're going to pay more for less (FA)....re-signing your own typically will yield you a more friendly contract.

    pouncey is good to go this year as far as im concerned though it feels like we're going to keep him around....Jawuan James is a fine walk for me too
     
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    Sterup compete for the right side. YOU HAVE TO BE SH!TTING ME
    He makes Frankenstein look Tyreek Hill

    I'm pretty sure Sterup would be second to below in a foot race

    [​IMG]
     
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    Which of our current free agents fit the mold of the U and Miami draft pick?
     
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    The U is not our developmental team...
     
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    We've ignored or botched positions of need for too long now. Let's start drafting smart first and then look at FA market to shore up what's left. Seems like we have been trying to do the opposite up to now.
     
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    I've been saying that for a long time. It wouldn't always work but I'm convinced over time the roster benefits immensely.

    It's simply too difficult to out smart the league or make significant roster advancements by plucking away at 5-8 mid level types.
     
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    I think our backup QB is in doubt and free agency may be the best spot to get one.

    We may draft one, but if we don't have one by about the 4th round, I think we should get a Free Agent. I see that Derek Anderson will be a free agent. I always liked him when I followed the panthers. I suspect he may have 2 effective years left and I think he is smart and disciplined enough to be successful with Gases playbook. When I saw him play he was reliable and after some games, I thought he needed to be the starter.
     
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    Xavier Su'a-Filo at left guard and Ryan Jensen at C. Cut Pouncy 7Mil savings. Id' draft a right tackle in the 3rd round, I like Kolton Miller from UCLA or
    Jamarco Jones from Ohio State. Our line would be Tunsil LT, Xavier Su'a-Filo LG, Ryan Jensen C, Jesse Davis RG, Kolton Miller or Jamarco Jones RT.
     
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    I love lamarcus Joyner for Fs. I'd resign fasano and Hayes. Cut James, thomas, Pouncy. Restructure Suh and tannehill.
     
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    Ziggy Ansah would be an interesting consideration.

    He had a rough 2016 and 2017 because of injuries, really turned it on in December......right before he hits free agency of course.

    I'd kick the tires on CB Trumaine Johnson too.

    Johnson and Ansah likely will be out of our price range so....

    Lesser known guys, Eagles LB Nigel Bradham had a very strong season, he might be in the realm of guys we can afford and would provide an upgrade.
     
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    Add a linebacker, vet corner (to go with Lippett, Howard and Tankersly) and a pass rusher in free agency. The focus the draft on offense this year. Fix all offensive issues going in to key season for Tannehill.
     
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    Since I didn’t claim they were I do not know where you were getting that from. There are a lot of people on this board who like the Miami Hurricanes and were certainly upset when those two players were not brought back.
     
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    Nobody is claiming that Jarvis Landry fits both those criteria. The one he does fit is that he was drafted by the team and has played all four years with the same organization.
     
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    Sadly, Pouncey is not getting cut.
     
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    Im hoping we stick to the topic of OLline and who to sign and maybe who to release. Aside from Tunsil, I think they call could get cut...Larsen, Bushrod, James and Pouncey
     
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    I agree on Landry. However, your description also fits Tannehill. My point is there is no general way to do this. I don't care if the guy is home grown, free agent or whatever; we just need to pick the right guys.
     
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    It will be interesting to see what players actually make it to free agency.

    Ideally, would love to see Miami get an upgrade at OG and maybe a tight end in free agency. Carlos Hyde, at the right price, might be a nice complementary back to go with Kenyan Drake. But I also think the team can find one in the draft.

    That would free up the draft to go defense early. Maybe get a running back, quarterback and more offensive line help in the 3-5 round range.
     
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    I’m fine with Ryan QBing for 5 more years if he’s healthy and they can succeed.
     
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    Why would they let him walk? He is better than Howard, and all they have to do is give him a cheap second round tender.

    Dolphins fans are too accustomed to the rank stupidity of our FO. Few other NFL franchises operate the way the Ross circus does.
     
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    Bingo!

    Anyone in this FO that wants to wear the cloak of "sign your own", after letting two of the best "our own" walk out the door after balking at their street value, really doesn't hold my interest.

    Forget who drafted them. They were ours, we let them walk and immediately had to fill two holes. I'd even go back and include Rishard Matthews.

    Money and numbers don't matter now. Fact is we developed them and let them walk.

    Low balling our own, while opening up the coffers for people who've never played a down for us. It's a complete contradiction in words and actions.

    So, as far as I'm concerned, let "our own" go win with someone else and spend every last dime of Ross' money buying wins that never materialize.

    My "Step 1": eat Suh's contact. The sooner we get out of this contract (completely off the books), the sooner we can build a winning team. That is, when Suh's contract evaporation intersect with TB's demise. THEN, we can start over. Again.

    The sentiments earlier were right, stop winning the offseason. And that starts with eating Suh's contract. Renegotiating that albatross was one of the biggest financial mistakes in Dolphin history.

    So, what the hell, renegotiate it again. It's only our future. Who cares.
     
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