Long or dumerville

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  1. NJPHINFAN79

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    Given the contracts would be similar would u prefer ot or de?
     
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    Which position am I more likely to be able to fill with the #12 pick...OT or DE?

    Spend the FA money on the other one.
     
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    The best thing is most likely either one at 12...
     
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    If Dumerville can play opposite of Wake and has not been injury prone as Long the past 2 years it's not even a question you sign the guy to a 4 to 5 year contract draft a offensive tack and 2 corners in the first 2 rounds of the daft and call it a good haul. Long with his injuries are very iffy. In fact I grab a true running back in the 3rd along with a guard or TE. Look a pass rushing DE opposite Wake who me know can ball is hard to find. We get him and we are done except for the DB backfield, OL and RB and we have picks in those first 3 rounds to cover all 3 areas. Long and Smith were inconsistent and Bush while a playmaker played too much like the hung talent we already have in Miller, Daniels and Thigpin. Unless it is a steal I say save our cap space and roll it into next year if possible of sign Starks and Jones or future deals. I would cut Marshall and restructure Patterson deal as the nickle and we a set.
     
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    Long. That's a skillset we're not getting except through the #12 overall pick, and it's unlikely to be there at that pick. This draft has lots of pass rushers. This FA period has lots of pass rushers. Our new LB corps is faster and rushes the pass better than last year. The hole is much more pronounced in pass protection. Long also gives our young QB time to throw those long passes to Wallace, and we've invested a lot in Wallace already. No brainer.
     
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    Gimme Elvis.
     
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    I would pick Long we are way thinner at (T) then we are at (DE)
     
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    Dumervil...he reduces our need at CB
     
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    yeah! what he said
     
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    Given how long is taking his sweet time, I would give him a deadline to sign or we are moving on.
     
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    Jake please. With Johnson and Fisher likely off the board by 12 we wont find an upgrade
     
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    OT Johnson in the 1st, trade odrick, sign Dumerville. I agree it will reduce the need for better CBs
     
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    I think the smart choice would be Long. Why? Because we can land a Freeney for cheaper or one in the draft. LT is not going to be available in the draft where we pick.
     
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    Dumerville!!

    If Ireland lands Dumerville, he will go from GM hero to GM God. Ireland's name will be forever sanctified in my eyes. Then Milliner in the draft (give up both second rounders) would be beyond belief. Tanni will do the QB shuffle in the pocket by utilizing the read-option while growing eyes on the back of his head. Whatever Philbin conjures up to remedy the TE issue without Long in the lineup and we WILL take the division for sure.
     
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    Long. I want Vernon to develop and I still think making RT better is this offseason's major goal.
     
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    Champions are built on great defenses, period. I may not be encyclopedic when it comes to football, but I know that defenses wins games.
     
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    Did you call this question into WQAM earlier today?
     
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    Dumerville and Eric Winston.
    Seriously though dumerville. Elite pass rusher to couple with wake. Makes this defensive scary.
     
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    Nope lol I live in jersey.
     
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    Long, in order to be able to use the weapons we added we need to protect Tannehill!
     
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    Wake and Dumerville are hungry savages who feast on quarterbacks without a bit of mercy. By the time the QB plants his foot to throw, he will be on his back wondering what train(s) just ran over him. They will be losing yards instead of forging forward. I personally enjoy watching the defensive side of the ball rather than the offense.

    I know I sound overly dramatic but the thought of having Dumerville is just awesome. :woot:
     
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    Who scares Brady more, Long or Dumerville?
     
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    Dummerville is elite. Long is injury proned. If its an a or b choice I'd rather have dumerville
     
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    Dumervil would affect the scoreboard a lot more than Jake Long so if I had to choose one I would go with Dumervil. However, if I'm the Dolphins I sign both. They still have over $25 million of cap space left. Sign both, call it an offseason in free agency and then draft Tayvon Austin plus two corners in the 2nd round.
     
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    Brady himself would not be able to give his answer because to him, after the snap, it'll be just a lightning fast blur. Both those runaway tanks bolting toward him will rattle him to the bone. He will lay a brick when both are lined up behind his o-line. The PAIN of defeat will feel quite real to Brady after the game. He will fear them both.
     
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    I saw both, and draft a WR at 12. Wallace alone will not be much help he will get double teamed on every play. Sorry but Hartline is not going to be able to pick up the slack like we want. We will need another good WR.
     
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    As much as Id like to see Long back, you have to go with Elvis here, no question about it. Elvis, Wake, Vernon, Soliai, Starks, Ellerbe, Wheeler lining up in that front seven would make any QB crap their pants! With that type of pressure on a QB, it really would help our secondary out.
     
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    I want Elvis to enter the building and Jake to be Long gone.
     
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    Long. I don't have any faith in Jon Martin playing LT. I do however have confidence in Olivier Vernon's development.
     
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    not even close................ DUMERVILLE!!!
     
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    NO BRAINER? long was NEVER a good pass blocker, thats been his weekness. and now? its a LIABILITY!!

    he allowed 7 sacks last year and had tanny taking LOTS of big hits and running for his life. if he was a a guy who could give qb's time to throw, he would have already been signed to a HUGE, long term deal by another team, or, we would have franchised him.

    jake is an injury bug, he is one of those guys, like bosseli, whos big body cant take the nfl athletic moves and pounding. he is breaking and it will only get worse!! paying him wont change that, with more money or less money.

    sign dumerville and get a tackle in the draft with one of our second or third round choices.
     
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    I totally agree. Don't even believe some saying Long. Dumerville with Wake would make are defense a force for years.
    Our front 7 would be insane, having avg CB would not be an issue.

    Pick up Oline in draft and a FA pickup. Martin isn't as good as a healthy Jake, but Jake isn't worth the money...and honestly, he's not the probowl LT he once was.
     
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    Dumerville... all day
     
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    I'd take the pass rushing DE that we need in a bad way and let Long walk. Wow, our front 4 would be awesome
    Wake-Soliai-Starks-Dumer with Odrick and Vernon rotating

    We have 5 picks in the first 3 rounds so you go corner, ot,og,te and corner and look out patsies

    Ozzy rules!!
     
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    That front four could seriously be a pro bowl starting 4
     
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    Dumervil. I don't even have to think about it.

    Dumervil doesn't have the injury history, we need someone opposite Wake still (Vernon won't be "the guy" for at least another year...if ever), and Long just hasn't looked good even when "healthy". But, don't be surprised if we draft an LT in the 1st.
     

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