looks like another rebuilding year

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by bcfinfan, Nov 17, 2012.

  1. bcfinfan

    bcfinfan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 2005
    Messages:
    175
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Its too bad, they started with a new coaching staff which always brings optimisim unfortunately they kept Ireland and he really is the cause of most of their problems. The guy has no business running this team. Time after time, player after player his trades, drafts and f.a. signings have brought the team further and further downhill. Its unbelievable he's still around after his track record all these years, not just 2 or 3.

    Now instead of having some good young players and a smattering of decent vets to build with we're gonna have to tear the team apart and start over because this group just ain't cutting it. Look down their roster, its pathetic. The few players they were counting on to bring the team back to respectability have almost all regressed and will be turfed out to make way for new hopefuls. Somebody name 1 recent draft choice that looks like a blue chipper, maybe centre Mike Pouncy, wow. And Hartnells a decent receiver. We won't know about Tannehill for a couple more years. On defence they've got Wake and Jones, Dansby and Burnett are busts as far as I'm concerned. The rest of them play like they know they're not very good. Look at the way they got manhandled by the Bills, and it wasn't just the o line. The whole team was pushed around.

    You people who want to look thru rose coloured glasses can do so, I'm only stating the facts. The future looks and has looked very bleak for many years and will continue to flounder until they get a real gm.
     
  2. dolphinron

    dolphinron A True Fan

    Joined:
    Sep 2002
    Messages:
    1,135
    Likes Received:
    41
    Trophy Points:
    48
    We are the doormat of the league AGAIN. Gets tiring year after year never being able to enjoy a playoff run. And just watching other teams make it in.
     
  3. joeharley666

    joeharley666 Banned Hammered

    Joined:
    Aug 2007
    Messages:
    2,094
    Likes Received:
    8
    Trophy Points:
    38
    OMG Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah
    did you really need to post this. Were you in fact inspired by the other 10,000,000,000 posts that said the same exact thing. Are you bored yet????? Whoever said this wasn't a re-build???? We knew that when they hired Philbin and Joe got rid of certain players to mold his team this way. Now, let me speak in English for you......We-will-be-adding-players-the-next-two-years-to-fit-Philbin's-vision-of-what-he-wants-his-team-to-look-like..........
    I hope that was clear enough for ya!


     
  4. WVDolphan

    WVDolphan Banned Hammered

    Joined:
    Aug 2005
    Messages:
    15,871
    Likes Received:
    160
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Rebuilding is one of the most annoying phrases used on this board.

    There really is no such thing as rebuilding in the NFL. If you make good moves, any NFL team can be a winner from one season to the next. We have the QB we are going forward with for now. Whether he turns out to be the right choice or not remains to be seen. So we arent rebuilding. Retooling perhaps, but thats all most teams ever really do in the NFL. Once you get the right QB, its just a matter of putting a few pieces in place and going for it.
     
  5. MiamiMuss

    MiamiMuss A True Fan

    Joined:
    Jul 2011
    Messages:
    1,315
    Likes Received:
    20
    Trophy Points:
    38
    25 years and counting!
     
  6. N-E-O

    N-E-O Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2005
    Messages:
    197
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    That's our new slogan! XX Yrs and Counting!

    On the back of the tee we could add "Inching closer to being a winning franchise since 1984"
     
  7. rvz1020

    rvz1020 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2011
    Messages:
    367
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    18
    On offense I agree with you but what about the defense? It's all on Ireland. Odrick and misi are far from being play makers. I rather have quality verses quantity.
     
  8. 2413fanphins

    2413fanphins A True Fan

    Joined:
    Mar 2006
    Messages:
    6,624
    Likes Received:
    34
    Trophy Points:
    0
    funny three weeks ago we were a playoff team and everybody was ****ting down their leg, now after three losses everybody sucks again and irelands names pops back up...

    i can't keep up with some of these posters.
     
  9. Nublar7

    Nublar7 Retired Finheaven VIP

    Joined:
    Aug 2003
    Messages:
    35,677
    Likes Received:
    130
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Doormat? Not really, I think Jacksonville and Kansas City safely have earned that title. Miami is middle of the pack.
     
  10. TuTTs243

    TuTTs243 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 2005
    Messages:
    24
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    We pretty much knew that starting a rookie quarterback wouldn't get into playoffs with New England leading the way. Stop being stupid with this post you idiot
     
  11. 1972fins

    1972fins Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 2011
    Messages:
    428
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    18
    We got a little carried away after the first 7 games but without a running game which we all thought to be the strength of this team we are 7-9 8-8 at best, the key is to have a good free agency and draft and this team should be in good shape.
    Start playing the young guys now to find out what they have.
     
  12. bcfinfan

    bcfinfan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 2005
    Messages:
    175
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    0
    And those players will continue to be duds as long as Ireland remains as gm, which was my point.
     
  13. Pinkboy

    Pinkboy Banned Hammered

    Joined:
    May 2007
    Messages:
    7,297
    Likes Received:
    61
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Wrong.

    Miami is BELOW middle of the pack. That's called "SUB-mediocre"

    When you have 3 losing seasons in a row and stand at 4-6 with a 4th straight "losing" season being inevitable, that's what you are.... sub-mediocre. Below the middle.

    Not too long ago you were someone who said Sparano will be the next Peyton and will take miami to the super bowl. We know you wear rose-colored glasses but you're still overrating this sub mediocre team and it's personnel. come on. May I remind you this is a team who just got manhandled on both sides of the ball by both the crappy Titans and Bills... and got manhandled and throttled in the 2nd half when it counted by the colts. Miami hasn't beaten a team with a good QB since early 2010.. let all that sink in again..

    SUB mediocre.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Nov 18, 2012
  14. bcfinfan

    bcfinfan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 2005
    Messages:
    175
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Who said anything about making the playoffs?
     
  15. Buff

    Buff From a galaxy far far away.... Finheaven VIP Donator

    Joined:
    Jan 2008
    Messages:
    2,290
    Likes Received:
    30
    Trophy Points:
    48
    WE ARE REBUILDING PEOPLE..........................


    Love the fans and posters who, less than 12 months after a majority of them wanted us to tank every game to get Luck, thought that we would be contenders just a few short months later.

    We have the QB in place. We need 2 WR. Both who can stretch the field. Be it draft or FA, we have to get one via each mean. Ideally Fitz or Wallace in FA would be sweet. We need one more better quality O lineman. Our backups are average, Our starters are pretty good- long has sucked in the last few games, and I like to think thats an abberation. Pouncey, Martin, Incog are good, Jerry has improved, Garner is OK, but someone to be on par with Pouncey or Long would be nice.

    We desperately need another OLB or DE. Moreso, a shutdown CB is a big a need as a WR. We have been toasted in the past month, people know how to pressure us, and the rest of the league is following suit.

    Fasano is expendable. He simply dissapears for games at a time. Clay flashes, but I think the gameplan alters due to teams stacking the box and the WR not getting open. It makes it difficult to play good footy when we can only play average footy.

    This was always gonna be a rebuilding year. Those who were shocked should change there rose coloured glasses.

    Philbin stays - 3,4 maybe more. He needs time to bring in his type of players to mould the team his way. I hope they give him time. Ireland stays next year. After that, if we dont get 9 or 10 wins by 2014, then it would be difficult to retain him.
     
  16. Nublar7

    Nublar7 Retired Finheaven VIP

    Joined:
    Aug 2003
    Messages:
    35,677
    Likes Received:
    130
    Trophy Points:
    63
    I am talking about this season, right now Miami is middle of the pack. Since there are 32 teams, I would say the best 10 or 11 are the top teams. The worst 10 or 11 are the bottom teams and the middle 10 or 11 are the middle of the pack teams. I guess you can make an argument that they are on the cusp record wise of the bottom teams, but right now I would say they are closer to being in the middle of the pack. Anyways, the comment was that the 4-6 Dolphins are the doormat of the NFL. I think the 1-8 Jaguars and Chiefs run away with that title. No question that Miami is not that bad. Not even close, hence why they are closer to the middle then the bottom.


    I don't recall ever saying Sparano would be the next Peyton. Sparano is a coach, Peyton is a quarterback.
     
  17. DrCpa

    DrCpa Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 2007
    Messages:
    100
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    He probably means Sean Payton. You have to admit you are a homer. Not seeing Ireland for what he is is a prime example
     
  18. phins_4_ever

    phins_4_ever E12 FH Tailgate Gang Moderator Finheaven VIP

    Joined:
    Jan 2002
    Messages:
    20,075
    Likes Received:
    1,537
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You may have a point based on record. But being obliterated at home by a previously 3-6 who received a shellacking the week before and losing 4 days later to another 3-6 team in a quite convincing way not managing crap against one of the worst defenses one can make the argument that we are closer to being a doormat again rather than middle of the pack.
     
  19. 2413fanphins

    2413fanphins A True Fan

    Joined:
    Mar 2006
    Messages:
    6,624
    Likes Received:
    34
    Trophy Points:
    0
    some people hate irleand, some like him. I like him. I was quite pleased with last years draft. the funny thing, you have to be patient. players need developing. you have to trust the staff to bring the players along. I dont think that ireland takes anybody without some consideration for what the coaching staff wants, he has final say over personnel I am sure, but I hardly doubt he takes whoever and shoves them down philbin and companies throat and says here make it work.

    the one pick the past few years I still am not overly pleased with is the odrick pick. I wish we had stayed pat instead of trading back, in that one instance. Normally I am all for stockpiling picks, but I thought there were plenty of guys who could have been better dolphins than odrick, although I haven't given up completely on odrick... BUT, you HAVE to hit on your first round picks.
     
  20. The Goat

    The Goat Escape Goat

    Joined:
    Apr 2003
    Messages:
    4,125
    Likes Received:
    135
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Why on Earth would you get your hackles up over the minutia of how to classify the Dolphins? "Middle of the pack" is a pretty broad term. It definitely isn't cause to say someone's wearing rose-colored glasses and making false statements about the team.
     
  21. HarryBagpipe

    HarryBagpipe Archibald Meatpants Super Donator

    Joined:
    Apr 2007
    Messages:
    6,732
    Likes Received:
    108
    Trophy Points:
    63

    People love arguing semantics. If we finish 7-9 "it's another losing season" and if we finish 8-8 "it's a non-losing season" like there's really any significant difference between the two minus the rhetoric.
     
  22. DrCpa

    DrCpa Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 2007
    Messages:
    100
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    i think Ck said it best when he said blaming Parcells for the bad picks and giving Ireland credit for the good ones of the last five years is awfully convenient. The jury is still out on the 2010-2012 draft. Leaving a rookie quarterback in the position he has with no weapons is incompetence. Ireland has been there five years man,how much more time does he need. The team has holes all over.
     
  23. andyahs

    andyahs Bahamian Redneck Finheaven VIP Donator

    Joined:
    Jul 2005
    Messages:
    6,838
    Likes Received:
    497
    Trophy Points:
    83
    I am convinced posters like you live to see the Dolphins lose and almost take pleasure in coming here to point out to others how much they suck.
     
  24. Dick Pepperwood

    Dick Pepperwood A True Fan

    Joined:
    Sep 2010
    Messages:
    1,713
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Dolphins "Rebuilding Again" Love the Homers Dude! Are the Colts Rebilding this Year? They had the Worst Record in the League Last Year! We Continue to Suck because we pick the wrong players. I wish we could take off the aqua orange glasses and say taking Jake Long over Matt Ryan set this Franchise back 10 Years. Worst pick Ever especially watching J. Long get Pancaked against the Bills.You can go back before that to not taking Drew Brees. If Tannehill is not the guy? I dont know man? He gets more time. But he sure throws too many Ints. Can't win dude when you throw that crap. If Thill is not the Guy? He will be part of the 18 since Marino who don't cut it man! Brees or Ryan both could have been that Guy! Only thing fo sure this season is another losing one...
     
  25. NorFlaFin

    NorFlaFin PowerHungryMo'fo

    Joined:
    Sep 2004
    Messages:
    4,739
    Likes Received:
    102
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Everytime we change coachs and/gm's we're rebuilding. suck it up
     

Share This Page