Man, nfl veterans hate the dolphins!!!

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  1. fisi

    fisi A True Fan Donator

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    I was at the barbar shop today in Detroit with 3 NFL players (one just got recently released by the Iggles) when the news broke of Miami releasing David Garrard. boy oh boi!!! did they trash Miami...They talked about how Miami kills vets' dreams and hope. They cited Larry Johnson's situaton from last year and the two DTs two years ago. Guys, they totally trashed us. I have been finfan since 83 but today I felt so helpless and my faith in that team was shaken. I don' even like DG and am glad he's cut but I felt sorry for him. For one whole hour I remained silent while the big boys speak. Now I know why the NFL network and the media hates us. They got it from the phuckin vets, its not fair.
     
  2. MarshallFin1

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    when u suck everyone trashes u, its a way of live, dont know why ur surprised.
     
  3. finfan54

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    yeah but that bill belichick, that guy is awesome.
     
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    He wins. Start winning and maybe attitudes will change.
     
  5. PJack

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    Exactly, no one shows you the door faster than Bellichek when you are past your prime. Difference is those guys left with a Super Bowl or at least a deep playoff run.

    Johnson was finished when he came here. Garrard had the body of a 60 year old man. Never would have lasted the season.
     
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    I think Dolphin fans are finally leaving their shell and stop living in 1972 undefeated season. They are finally finding out that the Dolphins are seen as a joke of an organization around the country. Trying to take a kid to a Dolphins game is like pulling teeth. They all want to go to Heat games.


    All of this means = we suck. Start winning, and you will see a change in perception. It's all about winning.
     
  7. M Gervasio

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    I'm sure Garrards release had something to do with his interview yesterday where he talks about looking for his next opportunity... The guy obviously wanted out
     
  8. Daytona Fin

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    They can stand up for their homeboy, Garrard all they want , he deserved to be cut. Larry Johnson? Really?. Cry me a f'n river.
     
  9. Lilseb93

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    The team loses every year and Ireland has a bad rep. Not a surprise.
     
  10. finfan54

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    but you see, he cuts his own guys all the time! He says you want big money? go somewhere else! I'll just find your replacment.
     
  11. finfan54

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    past your prime? how bout that safety from hurricanes was in his fourth year. he said sayonara! Look, past your prime has nothing to do with it. Its about when they ask for the big money. asante samuels, just about every damn CB who did something for him and next year wanted a contract, next thing you know they are playing for Eagles.
     
  12. Regulus

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    Larry Johnson! Lol he was a scumbag who should of never been allowed to wear a Dolphins uniform.
     
  13. J. David Wannyheimer

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    Hahha, we wronged a washed up Larry Johnson? Really?

    This stuff is just getting bizarre, man.
     
  14. CANDolphan

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    What are the players?
     
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    lol you feel sorry for DG? I can think of a million reasons I DON'T fee sorry for him.
     
  16. SRM

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    If your record sucks, you're gonna get trashed. The Lions and Saints were jokes in the NFL not too long ago.. and then they started winning games. When we went 11-5 in 2008, all we got was praise from the media.
     
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    the title makes it sound like there's a consensus among many nfl players. instead it's three of them in a barber shop crying about larry johnson & david garrard. the 'helpless' and 'faith shaken' parts are too funny though.
     
  18. NCFINFAN13

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    I thought they had team barbers,
     
  19. MinnesotaFin

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    First of all I hate Ireland but to say that he wont pay players doesnt make sense. The NFL has a salary cap and teams are always maxing it including the Dolphins. Why do you think there is always an off-season salary talk thread.
     
  20. Noodleman

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    Ya Miami really treated Cam Wake poorly or Dansby, Jake Long is getting treated horribly, how about Brandon Marshall? Ya Miami REALLY shafted him...sheesh only signing him to 4 year/47.5 Million....bastard fins!!!! You are basing your feeling that vets hate miami based on 3 scrubs in a barber shop? Bet the dude from the eagles you said got cut would sign to play for miami in a second if they called him. The NFL is a tough business that is pretty obvious and teams have to make some cold decisions...Miami is no different than any team in that regard.
     
  21. thefranchisedef

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    Why don't those players give Larry Johnson their paycheck? We kill dreams? Um, we signed Garrard and he got injured on his OWN time. Thats his fault, and not the Miami Dolphins. We have a bad wrap, and Ireland has a bad rap? Problem is that one person has this feeling and it spreads.

    Joey Porter, Channing Crowder, Ryan Clark, Dez Bryant? These are the people giving Miami and Ireland a bad name? Think about it? Ryan Clark wasn't guaranteed a starting job. He used us as ammo for the Steelers to up the ante. Dez Bryant? The guy just got done pimp slappin' his mom (alleged Prostitute). Sorry, it wasn't humane for Ireland to ask that question but, come to find out it was a pretty darn good question. Channing Crowder can't find work and Joey Porter was over the hill.

    Go by facts! Fact is that miami is 20-28 over last 3 years. We haven't had a franchise quarterback since Dan Marino. Miami is trying to rebuild the offense, not the defense, and do it the right way. You guys think this team is horrible? Go back and look at what Wannstedt did with what he inherited. He gave up draft picks like the new york jets for players that were problems or old (Seau, Williams, Boston). Do you guys want to go back to those days when we were just good enough to go to the playoffs but not the Superbowl?

    I'm sorry Hicks and Steinbach didn't work out, I'm sorry Westerman wasn't worth the contract we gave him, I'm sorry David Garrard injured himself, and I'm sorry Chad Johnson couldn't just stay focused on football. Fact of the matter is, Miami is trying to win long term not just right now. So, they are going to sign bargain basement players hoping they are going to exceed expectations. They didn't and they got sent packing. Don't like it go become a Jets fan. They will more than accommodate you with big names and hefty overpaid contracts.

    Oh and to the guy who said that miami fans are finally getting past 1972, please let me know why in the late 90's miami couldn't sell out a wildcard playoff game. Dolphin fans have been spoiled, and they want results now. Thats not how it works, just support your team through hell ad high water. STOP COMPLAINING!
     
  22. Mcganiel

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    We win and people will love us, plain and simple.
     
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    The difference is he finds their replacement and wins with them, we find scrubs and lose with them.
     
  24. VAMinnow

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    Wait, I'm a little fuzzy on the Larry Johnson situation. Weren't we the only NFL team to give the guy another chance. How can Miami be faulted for that?
     
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    Poor football players. Their career is over, but they should be given a job and paid millions to do nothing. Sounds a lot like the American dream of today.
     
  26. cuban_refugee

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    The way I look at it......The Dolphins gave these "Vets" a chance when no other team wanted to. When a player doesn't have it any more, he doesn't have it.
     
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    If the Dolphins were a small business.... and managed their product, people and image over time like the Dolphins have managed theirs..... they would have been out of business a long time ago... period!

    I'll always be a Dolphin fan.... but I take no pride in the brand anymore... they are disfunctional on so many levels its infuriating.... and Hard Knocks just put it out there for all to see..... including all the players in the NFL..... just pathetic...

    ---------- Post added at 08:32 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:31 AM ----------

    The way I see it... those teams knew those players "didn't have it" anymore.... and so they didn't waste their time.....
     
  28. dolpns13

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    So what did you say in our defense? I hope you said something..

    Who were these vets too. They are probably bitter from being cut from their respective teams because of their suckiness. So these dudes get cut and then bash Miami for doing the same thing that their teams did to them?!?! Hypocrites. I would love to know who these jockstraps were,
     
  29. DuderinoN703

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    What has Larry Johnson done since then? What will Garrard do now? Is Chad Johnson going to play anywhere?

    Please though barber shop patrons, let's act like they cut Jerry Rice and Lawrence Taylor and completely freak out over nothing.
     
  30. Vaark

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    Oh wow, marginal, injured, goldbricking and downwardly spiralling players resent the Fins for not running their business like the Post Office.

    I'm flabbergasted.
     
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    I won't comment on Dez Bryant Or Ryan Clark but to say this. Dez was bitter Ireland asked a personal question about his integrity. In hindsight Ireland was spot on. Ryan Clark went back to a much better team.. no brainer. e was looking for a cash grab and Ireland and didn't want to pay it. Fine with me... it is a business after all. He was NEVER coming here IMO.

    As for Porter and Crowder.. they were both on our 1-15 team, were they not? I may be mistaken , but I'm pretty sure they were. When you think about it 2 guys expected to be leaders, came way short. They have to accept their responsibility in their contributions to our team. The management that brought them in, and that they have experience with aren't here. Are they bitter they got cut? They shouldn't be. Ireland has been pretty good and getting rid of guys who just aren't work it. Porter has done jack **** since he left. Crowder? Well that loudmouth hasn't even been given a whiff! Because he sucks. Does he think we OWE him something. You've got to be kidding me.

    As far as FA's go, it's normal for FA's to want 2 things.. the best chance to win a championship, and to make a boatload of money. We're not in a position to win a championship, and Ireland wisely doesn't overpay for vets. We've made a lot of FA signing that make think that half these players don't try as hard now they got paid.

    We've had a string of bad luck, and the rep we have nationally is fueled by the media piling on . Whatever.

    You know it is, like in '08, win a few games and everyone is on the bandwagon. That's the way it works.
     
  32. nerfball

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    Let me understand this, all the other teams coddle and give free rides to any vets on their roster? LOL, come on.
     
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    Bashing Miami over their handling of Gerrard and other veterans is easy because their not winning. If Miami would have done to one of their veterans what the Ravens did yesterday to Bryant McKinnie they would have been blasted. Ravens threaten to cut McKinney week before first game if he doesn't take pay cut. Many say it was just good business. Few people question the Ravens on the harsh treatment of a veteran. It is good business but winning sure provides management with the benefit of the doubt.
     
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    Of course some vet players are not going to like what our FO is doing. They are saying nobody's job is safe and just because you are a vet, doesn't mean you can take off camp. If we were a SB or playoff team, I could maybe see their point. But when you are routinely drafting in the top ten and finishing .500 or worse, what entitlement do the vets really think they should have?
     
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    So we should feel bad that we give some vets opportunites to make the team and they cant cut it. So thats the teams fault? I thinks notta
     
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    The Ravens did cut McKinnie, I think. He called their bluff, only they weren't bluffing. He resigned at a lower salary.
     
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    SabanHater ***** in the House!

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    Our owner just said we're a playoff team yesterday. who wants to play for someone so clueless?
     
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    ireland is trying (in vain) to rehabilitate his image around the league. He was within an eyelash of being run out over the dez bryant thing. he wants too badly to be perceived as NOT reinforcing racial stereotypes.

    What infuriates me (and I think a LOT of this fan base) is that he may be letting that agenda influence his personnel decisions. I personally felt from the get-go that that signing was meant to placate those who were attacking him, NOT because garrbage was by any stretch the best QB around. We went through Peyton Manning, Matt Flynn, and Alex Smith.... and arrived at washed-up garrbage. It left us very COLD as a fan base... this is the best ireland can do? It seemed a FLAWED decision. More so now.

    garrbage had no business being here in the first place. His presence set back Tannehill's development as a starter.

    And I KNEW cutting garrbage would evoke a reaction. The whole thing is a 800-lb gorilla no one wants to talk about.
     
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    Not sure why they bring up Larry Johnson. The Dolphins were the only team to give him a chance.
     

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