Mayweather still ducking Pacquiao

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  1. electrolyte

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    in 2009. yes they agreed.

    and again, don't act like floyd is doing it all. Just need to get Chavez and Martinez on the undercard and put in on Mexican Independence Day. Sounds like something Floyd would do to fiddle the numbers, then claim that they are all his.


    also, found this today :

    FORBES WORLD'S MOST POWERFUL CELEBRITIES LIST IS OUT: PACQUIAO - #33; MAYWEATHER - #52

    The annual list of the influential Forbes Magazine world's most powerful celebrities list for 2012 has just been released with boxing superstar and Philippine congressman Manny Pacquiao landing on number 33. Pacquiao's boxing nemesis Floyd Mayweather, Jr made it to number 52. This year's list is topped by American actress Jennifer Lopez followed by perennial top contender Oprah Winfrey on number 2 and teenage singing sensation Justin Bieber on number 3.

    Seventeen athletes made it to this year's list headed by Tiger Woods (#12), Lebron James (#15) and Kobe Bryant (#27).

    View the complete list here: http://www.forbes.com/celebrities/

    Pacquiao, who last year earned US$67M and who also made it to the list in 2010 (#55) and 2009 (#57), was described by the magazine as "a pay-per-view stud with five fights each generating at least one million PPV buys during the past four years. Pacman has expanded his endorsement reach by signing deals with Monster Energy and Hennessy. Other partners include Nike and Hewlett-Packard. Pacquiao was elected to the House of Representatives in the Philippines in 2010 in a landslide victory."

    The magazine considers the ranking of candidates in the following area in determining the celebrity's final standing: earnings, TV/Radio, press, social media and web.

    Forbes will do a live webcast featuring the writers who put this year’s list together which could be accessed on the following URL: http://www.forbes.com/sites/dorothy...e-live-unveiling-of-this-years-celebrity-100/
     
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  2. ebozzz

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    So you say. Got a link? And, if it's actually true it sounds like Manny should have jumped on the fight in 2009! What held it up? Manny not wanting to be tested?

    Floyd promotes himself, right? That's what you said. Am I right? Well then, as a promoter he should pull out every trick in his arsenal to make the fight earn as much as it possibly can. Even you would have to agree with that! Maybe Manny should get rid of Arum and start promoting himself......

    The Forbes stuff is cool but it doesn't have anything to do directly with what boxing fans are paying for fights. Or, who they are willing to pay more to see. Manny still doesn't make as much as Floyd on fights. Therefore, Manny should not be entitled to receiving an equal share of the purse in my opinion.
     
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    IMO opinion Pacman would not beat Mayweather. Im a huge fan of Manny's but when it comes down to it Floyd can back up all the **** he talks. I don't think anyone out trains him.
     
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    I am simply a boxing fan with no allegiances to either fighter but I also don't think that Manny would win. :idk:
     
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    if mayweather was to fight pac the same way i saw him fight cotto pac will whoop his ***
     
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    Here's something to think about though. Mayweather went up in weight to meet Cotto. Miguel went down in weight to fight Manny. I think that Pac would have to move up to fight Floyd. I really don't think that Floyd would get his *** whooped fighting at his preferred weight..... :idk:

    My prediction would be a unanimous decision for Mayweather.
     
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    mayweather better have been taking all that leather he took from cotto to entertain the fans...i kinda think that's what it was...but if he lets pac hit him like cotto did it will be good night...pac has a lot more power and is technically a superior fighter to cotto...that better have been some just to entertain the fans stuff...that's all i know...

    the fight will probably never happen anyways...especially if people keep chunking out big money to watch them work over some guy completely outclassed every 4 months or so...

    i'd like to see my young favorite new fighter to the big stage alvarez take on one of the big boys...his power and straight ahead style is a big time draw...i'd pay to see it
     
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    :D Ok, I'll play!

    If Manny takes all that leather that he took from Marquez when fighting Floyd, it will be good night! I hope that he was doing that just to entertain the fans. Mayweather is technically more superior than Marquez and has good power. That's all I know...

    I actually don't think that either of them is going to fight for much longer.

    I like Canelo but I don't think that he's ready yet to fight Floyd or Manny. Oh, he would be competitive but in my opinion, he would fall short. I really wanted to see Alvarez against Kirkland. That fight appears to be off now....
     
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    i don't agree that mayweather has good power...to me he outpoints guys with hand speed and then when he gets ahead superior defense...if he did have very good power i think a lot of guys that i've seen him land clean crisp shots on would be on the canvass...

    i agree alvarez probably isn't ready yet for pac or mayweather and his handlers i think are doing the right thing to date with him and i'd also like to see a alvarez kirkland fight...kirklands a tough son of a gun and i thought the fight i saw of his recently where he got knocked down in round 1 and then came back like wild fire later on can't remember who it was against was a great fight...that said i think alvarez has enough going for him where he'd win that matchup...alvarez though for as much leather as he gives out and his power is rediculous he takes a lot also...
     
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    Mayweather is definitely not a knockout artist. That's for sure! But, his power is respectable. If it wasn't guys would just walk through him regardless of his defense which tends to be top shelf.

    That Kirkland fight was against "Perro" Angulo (sp?). I thought he was out it early in round 1. He not only came back in the same round to knock down Perro but basically beat him like he stole something the rest of the fight! Check it here....

    http://www.badlefthook.com/2011/12/...vs-james-kirkland-full-fight-video-hbo-boxing

    Kirkland's conditioning is always great and he is a very active fighter for the most part. The concern that I have with him against Canelo is that James can be a little careless. I don't think that he would get away with that against Canelo but if he controlled the pace of the fight, he has a shot....
     
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    Floyd Mayweather KNOWS Boxing.

    It ain't no coincidence that he hasn't signed to fight him yet.

    Look at all the guys they have fought in common. Manny has annhilated most of their common opponents.

    Whatever happened with the slander law suit Manny was bringing up against Floyd jr?
     
  12. ebozzz

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    So, what's your point?
     
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    and i thought kevin durant was getting the short end in the nba finals with the officiating...manny pac got straight up hozed by the decision in the timothy bradley fight...i mean hozed...bradley may have won 2 rounds in that fight...all the power shots came from pac and bradley was hurt probably 4 different times...

    anyways...mayweather doesn't have anywhere near the same power and thud sound when he connects on a power shot that pac does...it sounded like cement when he kept denting bradleys head with the straight left hand
     
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    Hoops,

    I agree with a lot of what you say. Pac should have won that fight easily on each of the judges cards. Still, Bradley is not nearly as skilled a fighter as Mayweather and IMO, Floyd may have a little more power also. Supposedly Bradley fractured his left foot and sprained his right ankle during the fight. The injuries were causing him enough problems that there was talk of stopping the fight. Now, I remember seeing him turn his right ankle but I don't have a clue as to how he hurt his foot. Think the fight might have been more competitive if he had not been injured?
     
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    no i don't...pac coasted thru the first half of just about every round...that broken foot stuff sounds like bs i saw him turn his ankle over one time in the 4th i think it was but if he broke his foot no way he moves around the ring like he did the rest of the fight...honestly i think the fight was a sham and a way for these 2 to get back in the rings together on the rematch clause probably in november...
     
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    Well, he turned that ankle pretty early into the match. As I stated earlier, I don't have a clue about the broken foot or how legit that is. There was some talk in the corner about stopping the fight due to injuries that Bradley supposedly suffered during the fight. As for fighting with a fracture, I don't know. I guess it would depend on how severe of a fracture it happened to be with regards to how much it limited him. I fractured my foot in a pick up game once and continue to play through it. Never thought for a second that I had fracture. I suffered later that evening though. You would think that as great a fighter that Pac is with ALL of the power he has that he would have found a way to get Bradley out of there, right? :idk:
     
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    bradley kept coming...have to give him that...took some big shots and kept coming...but he never even remotely hurt pac...there's a huge stink in the boxing community about that fight being shady...they've examined the judges cards from round 7 i believe it was where compubox had pac like 3 to 1 on landed punches and power shots and all 3 judges scored it for bradley...i mean i could see that fight being scored 8-4 for pac but anything more than 4 rounds for barkley is hogwash...

    mayweather would definitely be a tougher opponent for pac than bradley but i think pac would get up a whole lot more for that one...i doubt he'd be coasting...he'd be pressing mayweather something fierce...mayweather would earn his money that night i know that...and he's take some heavy leather if he was to even outpoint pac
     
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    He's certainly got a lot of heart. That's why I suggested that the fight might have been more competitive if he had not been injured. I still don't think he wins but shows up a little more.

    Pac would take some leather as well. No, Floyd is not as heavy handed as Manny but he does have crisp punches that do a lot of cumulative damage. Not to mention his superior defense and counter punching skills. Check Cotto's face after their fight. I really hope the fight happens. Don't really care who wins but if I were pick one right now, I would have to go with Mayweather.
     
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    Yo, Manny is STILL making less than Floyd...

    http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/i...ather-jr-released-vegas-jail-serving-2-months
     
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    Jon Jones would demolish both those guys.

    **** boxing.
     
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    Wonder if Pacman still wants a 50/50 split for a Mayweather fight now? :lol:
     
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    Ricoa!

    Hey Manny.......

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    Repeat....RICOA!

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    marquez is doping...his body looks a whole lot different now than it did before...and i don't want to hear it's from just making weights part of his training...that cats doping
     
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    What sport are we talking here? In MMA?for sure! In boxing NO FREAKING WAY! Any pro boxer would destroy any MMA fighter just throwing hands. Plus Jones has like 40lbs and a foot of height on those guys.
     
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    Could be but he didn't test positive. Manny just got beat. That's all there is to it. There are some who think that Manny's performances have been hindered by the fact that he was doping and now is not. Regardless, he lost. End of story.
     
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    Excuse me but didn't Manny refuse to agree the same type of testing when the fight between he & Floyd was a done deal? Isn't it his refusal to participate during the negotiations back in 2010 what killed that potential match? Just asking....

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ting-more-evidence-he-ducked-floyd-mayweather

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/manny-pacquiao-demands-peds-testing-rios-bout-hypocrisy-001500183.html
     
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    I hope Canelo beats Mayweather's azz tonight.
     
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    Good luck with that! :D
     
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    Love that ESPN doesn't double check what they put in their ticker. According to them, Canelo weighed in at 150 on Friday and 162 today. Either a typo or Chipotle.
     
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    If Canelo has any chance, he better get on Floyd early. The longer this one goes the greater the odds are that Mayweather will win...
     
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    That's not really that unusual. Most fighters normally put on a few pounds after the official weigh in. I read something recently that Canelo does that very well...
     
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    A couple of pounds, sure. 12 lbs? Don't see how that is possible. I bet they meant 152.
     
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    I'm watching the fight right now. The announcers said the same thing. From the time they finish that official weigh in all they do is eat and re-hydrate. It's not unusual especially for a guy like Canelo who probably walks around at 170 or so when he isn't fighting. Floyd couldn't put on that much. He's a lot smaller...
     
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    I predict Mayweather getting beat by rd 6. Book it and bank it.


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    Weird.
     
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