Merged: Dolphins make 2-year offer Harrington./ Joey Harrington Threads

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  1. Cuban B

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    i like it. sign this man as our backup!
     
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    Excellent news! I know there are people against having Joey here, but I think he would be a GREAT backup for us. If the Lions want at least the value of a 6th rounder for him, I say we give them two of our 7th rounders this year, or just give them a 6th rounder in 2007. Joey is worth it. Come on Saban, pull the trigger! :D
     
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    sweeeeet make it happen.
     
  6. Majpain

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    You know Saban whats a young QB I know Harrington isnt the answer but for a 6th or a 7th this wasnt a bad trade.
     
  7. Cuban B

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    :yeahthat:


    i totally agree

    it looks and sounds like it's going to happen
     
  8. Nublar7

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    I agree, it really sounds like Harrington will be a Dolphin very soon. If he agrees to a contract with us(sounds like he will), it shouldn't be too hard to work out a trade with the Lions.
     
  9. IronChef

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    The only suspect thing about that article is when it said that daunte's injury is believed to be more serious than carson's... That's just simply not the case...
     
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    i hope so, i'd rather have him than any of the other backup QBs. I don't know why i just do.
     
  11. Iceband

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    2 first round QB's on the Dolphins. Who would of thought this 2 years ago?
     
  12. Cuban B

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    two 7th's sounds just about right

    :ffic:
     
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    Puka-head 2 fav teams, Dolphins and who's vs Jets

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    He's not just quick, he's Psychic. It's not even Sunday yet!!:lol:
     
  14. kkcow15

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    harrington will be tossing the rock in aqua by monday
     
  15. Cuban B

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    yup!

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    Man...you left coasters have it made! Don't forget about daylight saving tonight!
     
  17. stevec

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    Also, like the avatar/sig. I HATE the JETS!
     
  18. IronChef

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    Helloooooo!!!

    Did you guys not see in the article where it said that harrington believes that daunte's injury is worse than carson's? That's not true.... Or is it.? Makes me worried
     
  19. unifiedtheory

    unifiedtheory Thank you #54...

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    In one off-season Saban has delivered Daunte Culpepper and Joey Harrington...and we'll still have 2 first day draft picks...

    Genius. He took the worst Q.B. situation in the NFL and made it a top 10 situation without giving up the farm...I love Nick Saban.
     
  20. Jimmy James

    Jimmy James You sit on a throne of lies!

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    I think this offseason pretty much does away with all of last year's talk that Saban hates trading draft picks.
     
  21. NickJr.

    NickJr. Section 436 Stand UP!

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    I think he's getting another steal. I'm not a huge fan of Joey, but he's the best guy available. If he gets in and plays well this year, he might even have some trade value next year. For a 6th rounder you can't lose. Do It.
     
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    HEY!!!! Noone saw where it said that culpeppers injury is worse than palmers!!!???
     
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    I'm not too worried what Harrington and his agent think about Culpepper's injury. The season is still over 5 months away, it is hard to predict what will happen. I do feel more comfortable with Joey as the starter in week 1, then I would with someone like Maddox.
     
  24. Surferosa

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    I dont like this move, but then again, who am I? Some random guy sitting behind a computer.

    The upside is that Harrington has significant starting experience in the League; hes also bright and seemingly coachable. I question whether hes worth any kind of low round pick, not to mention to $2 million a year contract. Having said that, Ive never been the kind of fan who claims to know more than the coaching staff on personel decisions, so I'll defer to Nick and Randy here.
     
  25. unifiedtheory

    unifiedtheory Thank you #54...

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    Everyone knew Daunte's injury was worse then Palmer's...he tore three ligaments.

    Daunte had surgery 5 months ago, Palmer went under the knife 2 months ago...Daunte's doing straight line running and has full range of motion. Without setbacks Daunte will be ready for the opener.
     
  26. Cuban B

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    if this deal goes thru...

    then yeah pretty much


    the media made Saban seem like Gollum from Lord of The Rings relative to draft picks

    Nick Saban --"My Precious Draft Picks!! My Precious Picks!"


    glad to see he's not giving them away though. He's the man!
     
  27. Surferosa

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    I didnt know that. There were reports that Palmers injury was career threatening.
     
  28. unifiedtheory

    unifiedtheory Thank you #54...

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    I'm not a Harrington fan either...I think he is soft. That being said, if you had told me 12 months ago that our back up Q.B. would be Joey Harrington and we'd still have 2 first day draft picks (including our 1st rounder) I would have been elated.

    The money is a little high but, we NEED a back-up Q.B. so we are forced to overpay a little bit. It's not a cap crippling move by any stretch of the imagination, if it was Nick and Mule would'nt throw that kind of contract at him.

    In the end it is a HELL of a lot better then having Tommy Maddox as a backup...
     
  29. unifiedtheory

    unifiedtheory Thank you #54...

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    Daunte's injury was much worse...

    The Palmer injury was overblown by a doctor who wanted his name in the paper.

    The biggest thing is Daunte did his in October and Palmer did his in January. Palmer will be lucky to start a game by October while Daunte will be starting by mid-September without setbacks.
     
  30. elite14eva

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    it's not a done deal yet cincy is still in it.
     
  31. Surferosa

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    Agreed. The clock is ticking with Palmer, and it remains to be seen if he'll be ready on time.
     
  32. Jimmy James

    Jimmy James You sit on a throne of lies!

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    Palmer's injury is not as bad as you may have heard if you were basing it on the comments his doctor made about "potentially career threatening".

    Palmer got an ACL replacement and MCL repair. Palmer's kneecap was also dislocated.

    I forget what was replaced and what was repaired for Culpepper, but he had replacements or repairs to ACL, MCL, and PCL.

    If you count ligaments, Culpepper's injury is more serious. Frankly, I don't expect anybody but the people who have reviewed films and other documentation from the medical files of both players really know who was hurt worse.
     
  33. Cuban B

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    i just had a thought

    maybe this "source" is saying that Harrington was/ is close to agreeing on a deal with Miami to drive his price up with Cinncinati

    i would think the Bengals would be a little desperate right now to sign a quarterback because chances are Palmer won't be ready for the start of the season and they lost Jon Kitna in free-agency

    Culpepper seems like he'd be ready for the season opener and if he's healthy this season and barring injury, Joey won't get much playing time

    i think Harrington would get more playing time in Cinncinati

    :confused:


    i still hope we get him though
     
  34. PhinsRDbest

    PhinsRDbest Who D Best?

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    Using 4 picks on 3 qb's this year and only having 4 draft picks in this years draft sounds like a very boring draft to me. They better pick someone exciting with their 1st rounder.
     
  35. Cuban B

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    do you consider offensive linemen exciting?

    :confused:
     
  36. PhinsRDbest

    PhinsRDbest Who D Best?

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    :lol: Not really. You?
     
  37. DaPoppaP23

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    heck yea... Harrington is gonna make a awesome backup to Culpepper :dolphins:
     
  38. Jimmy James

    Jimmy James You sit on a throne of lies!

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    I like the 2 year strategy a lot. If Harrington comes in, blows up for a four or six game stretch, and turns his career around, it means that Miami would be in a position to trade him (potentially for more than he cost) to a team in need of a QB like Dallas, Minnesota, Green Bay, or Kansas City.
     
  39. MiamiDolphins34

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    Yaay lets give up more draft picks for another qb :rolleyes: 2nd for Culpepper 6th for Lemon and now another for Harrington? I thought Saban liked his draft picks.
     
  40. PhinsRDbest

    PhinsRDbest Who D Best?

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    Well I think its safe to say that if they do trade for Harrington we may never see another Dolphin trade in another 3-4 years(Other than trade downs and Players for picks).
     
  41. GRYPHONK

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    I like it man.

    If we trade 2 7ths for him then can turn around and sell him for a 4th maybe higher depending on how will he does that would be awesome.

    For a 7th round pick this is one of those VERY low risk high reward situations.

    Remember Harrington was first round talent. He may just need a change of scenary.

    What is more likely to happen?

    Harrington playing solid and getting traded for more then a 7th next year
    or
    A 7th round pick being traded next year for more then a 7th rounder
     
  42. GRYPHONK

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    Heck go ahead and send GB our 3rd for Walker.

    I know that would mean that we would have basically no picks left. BUt if you think about it realistically

    We drafted Culpepper in the 2nd
    Drafted Walker in the 3rd
    Drafted Harrington in the 7th

    2 pro Bolwers and a 1st round talent all in 1 draft plus still having a 1st round pick to boot.

    Just putting the trading draft picks in perspective. I know it would be a boring draft but I would rather trade a pick on sure talent that is still young and has a good 7 years left in them as opposed to just drafting a rookie who may never pan out
     
  43. super_slash

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    Mark my words, Harrington will do alot better with Mularkey and Garrett than he ever could with the Lions

    Mularkey had Maddox and Stewart as QB's and parlayed it into a HC job

    let that sink in
     
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    Joey is going to be a star somewhere unfortunately not with the lions:dolphins:
     
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    Ok, someone help me understand this. Saban comes in a year ago with alot of talk about building through the draft and the very next year gives up practically all Miami's picks? I'm not slamming him, just trying to understand his thinking process. I'm a bit confused at this point with all the picks the team has given up so far. Besides the first round what other picks does Miami have?
     
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    Better than Maddox, better than Fiedler. Probably the 2nd best backup on the market, I'll take it. :)
     
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    How can any Dolphin fan think this is good news? It probably is the worst news possible.

    WHy would anyone want a young #3 overrall pick who still wants to start but now will be a backup?? All thats going to do is create a controversy. ANytime you guys lose or DC has a bad game, there will be 10 threads saying start Harrington, just watch.

    I just think its a bad thing.

    Maddox, even though he strugled last year, would be the best choice. A VET who wont cause problems.
     
  48. 34isback

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    wow what IF this guy actually played to his potential (meaning where he was drafted).
     
  49. oodolphins

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    IF it happens, I like it. In SABAN I trust!

    :hysterikill:
     
  50. Montella

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    i don't like harrington but i like this little fact of the article:

    Ohio State wide receiver Santonio Holmes worked out for the Dolphins on Friday. Holmes is considered one of the top receivers in the draft and a likely first-round pick. Dolphins coach Nick Saban and general manager Randy Mueller were among those who watched Holmes catch passes.

    santonio holmes is the best all around wr in the draft and he would be a nice pick for us in the draft...
     

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