Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by MRojas4, Apr 23, 2013.
About to start! Tune in kids!
DVR is set!
Montana almost traded for Elway? Wow.
I couldn't wait for DVR! Even happier NOT to be a Bills fan. One of their most celebrated players and he NEVER wanted to play there! Can't wait to hear how Danny felt about us initially, and maybe the Jets too.
I couldn't stop laughing. Kelly was doing backflips because he didn't get picked with the Bills first first rounder.
Young guys are kinda stupid sometimes though. Kelly makes his home in Buffalo now, and loves it there. Funny how perception changes over the years, as we grow. Btw, Buffalo has one of the best fan bases in the league. Very loyal.
He didn't even sugarcoat it!
Same thing I said. Unbelievable. Thank God the jest didn't pick Marino. Dan is main reason I became a Dolphins fan
Absolutely. Same here.
Who's going to coach Marino?
Don fkn Shula that's who!
Ken Obrien hahahahaha
Marino as a RAIDER? Oh God that's a sickening feeling.
Thank God we got him! It's amazing how he slipped through, but I guess thats hindsight. He had the right attitude, thats for sure!
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I know what you mean, but imagine if Marino said he was crying because he didn't want to come here? That's my point. That still HAS to sting, even though it worked out.
I'm just amazed as to the number of deals and twists and turns that go on during draft day. Deals are agreed upon but then crumble once the phones hang up. Someone coughs or sneezes the wrong way and the deal falls apart
Could you imagine Dan Marino, Marcus Allen and Bo Jackson in the same backfield? Sheesh. Glad the Raiders blew that one even though they did win the Super Bowl that year.
Ken O' Brien
good call Jets :lol:
actually he was a decent QB just no Dan Marino.
Elway watched "All My Children" with 10 of his friends? Yikes...
Watching it now...Looking in the crowd to see if I can see myself.
I'm afraid of standing at the pearly gates and being told..... You should of taken Marino.
Screen grab if you do!
Do Yourself a Favor - Watch 30 for 30: Elway to Marino
If you want to really pump yourself up about the draft and overcome the dreaded "but I don't want that guy!" mentality, watch this amazing film.
The behind the scenes with Elway and Marino are flat out amazing, but the twists and turns of all the other players of that draft define what it means to truly love football. It just goes to show that you never know who will be amazing and who will be a bust. I thought I couldn't possibly be more pumped about this year's draft, but I was wrong.
Do yourself a favor, watch it.
Completely agree. Not sure if it needed another thread started but I can understand your enthusiasm for the film. I still can't believe of some of the guys that went before Dan the Man.
I like how Shula said "I dont just want a quaterback, I want blankin Marino!"
Re: ESPN 30 for 30 "Elway to Marino" 8PM ET
Marino and O'Brien had some good duals over the years. Big passing yards.
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It was definately worth watching. Never heard the Montana possible trade until tonight.
Dont have ESPN
The stuff about Elway was the best part of the show.
It was a great show, and your right Hayden all the drama with Elway was interesting to say the least.
Sadly, I was abit young to care about the draft at that time in my life.
But seeing Marino as a youngster spin that pigskin brought back some great memories.
The show overall, is another great one in the 30/30 series.
It was a good documentary
I wished they focused just on the QBs like they did in the Brady 6, instead of the whole draft.
Chick-lets is a pompous-arse
I couldn't catch it, does anyone know if it will be released on demand? Or on their website?
I didn't see myself. But At the time I was on the local NYC news. They were interviewing jet fans and I was in the back ground.
Another bit I notice regarding the special.
I was at the Draft.
in 84 I went to St Thomas U, ( where the fins trained at the time) And saw about 5 of the home games that year.
85 I was back in Jersey and drove down to Miami for the AFC Champ game.
Then in 86 I was at the 51-45 game in the Meadowlands.
I was surprised to see all the other pro-bowl players in that draft.
One of the craziest things in that whole documentary: Rozelle secretly squashing the Bears - Raiders trade to keep Al Davis from getting the necessary picks to trade to the Colts for Elway. Davis had that lawsuit pending against the NFL for blocking his move and Rozelle got him back an got him good.
What do you expect when daytime soap diva known as Erica Kane was more likable to Elway than the Baltimore Colts owner?
I enjoyed the documentary and learned some cool things about the 1983 NFL Draft. The Jets will always remember two things about Marino: 1. 1983 NFL Draft 2. Fake Spike game winning TD
Elway? I didn't really care much for Elway.
I haven't seen the program yet but I do remember that draft. It started early in the morning on a Tuesday. Great anticipation, due to the Elway situation and so many premier players available. Curt Warner and Eric Dickerson were fantastic backs. In that era the colleges were spitting out terrific backs almost every season and they dominated the spotlight, and high first round. It went from Tony Dorsett and Ricky Bell to Earl Campbell to Billy Sims to George Rogers to Marcus Allen (later pick) and then Warner/Dickerson. I'm still in disbelief at how much has changed in that regard. Never would have happened, minus the rules changes and interpretation.
I was in the midst of a move and lacked ESPN briefly. I had to ask a friend if I could watch at his house. He agreed. He and his wife left for work. I remember being cautious all day, almost afraid to touch anything. :lol:
Nobody thought Marino would slip that far but it wasn't exactly a given that Miami would pick a quarterback, or would prioritize one. Don't let anybody fool you into believing it was a certainty. The pre draft speculation in Miami was on other positions. Only when Marino began to slip dramatically did I look at the board and wonder if he could make it all the way. I always love players who were once rated extremely high, and then slip due to late overreaction. Marino was a legend at Pitt but once he had a dreary 1982 opener against North Carolina in a rare nationally televised prime time Friday night game, questions arose and his stock started to fall. Bobby Beathard said he pushed the ball. His release on draft day was being questioned more than praised.
BTW, I'm not sure if they used this clip but the first time Marino was interviewed after being drafted by the Dolphins he came across as kind of an aloof kid, saying it would be a good opportunity to "go down there and work on my tan."
They did. Now, he comes off like a player with tremendous SWAG. The Raiders got jobbed on Elway and then they claimed in the doc that if Al Davis hadn't been preoccupied with the lawsuit he would have nabbed Marino with his second pick in the round. Missed on Elway and Marino. Unreal. Good show.
grew up as an OJ fan, plus they were no real threat back then
Can't wait to watch it!
Great documentary. One thing I never realized was just how cocky Elway was when he was young. Just watching him in those interviews and press conferences...that guy had some balls...it was very different from Eli Manning not wanting to play for the Chargers. Even my wife commented on his arrogance when we watched it last night. LOL
I remember watching that draft and as Marino was slipping I said my worst nightmare will come true. The Jets were going to select him. When jets were on the clock, I had to lose 10 yrs of my life. Once they passed on him I could honestly say it was one of the best days in my life. The hatred for the jets goes back to the 70's for me. My only question is why didn't miami trade up to oak in front of the jets? Why risk the jets getting him? Made no sense at all.
I think the bigger story from this documentary is to realize how a terrible owner can destroy a franchise.
Let football people be football people, and business people do business.
I almost never stay up to 10pm I wake up way to early but that was definitely worth it loved it. Everyone already pointed out majority of stuff BUT how about all the ash trays at the draft tables haha so funny cant imagine watching the draft today and guys sitting there smokin cigs.
dang, i missed this. Anyone know how i can watch this after the fact?
I'm guessing it will probably be run again at some time. You can always I guess wait for the DVD to come out?
I have the first 30 original 30 for 30's on DVD set. Worth every penny, defenitly documentaries I will show my kids (once I have kids). LOL!
Might leak out on youtube or something?
That was a great documentary. Learned so many different new things. Highly recommend it!
great show! a lot of draft drama with a group of nfl greats, couldn't believe some of the stuff I never knew took place(marino- usfl,drug scandal, almost a raider or jet wow!) jim Kelly and Elway craziness! this is a must see
Elway was extremely cocky, as someone mentioned. It was his mannerisms as much as his words. I was a student at USC and even the sorority girls who didn't know anything about football said they hated John Elway because he was so arrogant. When he played right field for the Stanford baseball team, at least a few dozen USC fans would climb to the top of the nearby parking garage alongside Dedeaux Field at USC, so they could yell abuse at Elway the entire game. He would stand there not 30 feet away and take all of it. He literally removed his cap and ran his fingers threw his hair after every pitch. I remember one girl yelled at him, "What's your major -- grooming?"
Granted, there was tremendous animosity at USC toward Stanford because they had ruined our 1979 season and denied a second consecutive national championship, somehow rallying from 21-0 down at halftime to draw at 21-21. Elway had nothing to do with it. He played in the first half as a freshman but was ineffective. Elway was replaced by Turk Schonert, who led the rally.
It was a joke that Elway threatened to play baseball. He was perhaps the 6th best player on Stanford's excellent team. Very good arm, obviously, but he looked bottom heavy and sluggish on the base paths.
I'm interested to watch this show now that the thread indicates there was plenty of behind the scenes footage. I'm glad they apparently used the clip of Marino saying he wanted to work on his tan. That night on Miami sportstalk radio, that quote was what everyone focused on.
Lol...yeah he brushed over real quick n I'm like ???? Were those friends 10 females? or his teammates lol