bullseyeguy
Heart of A Champion
With all this talk of stats, I think a very important one is being left out...WINS! Whos got more of those over the last 3 years?
bullseyeguy said:With all this talk of stats, I think a very important one is being left out...WINS! Whos got more of those over the last 3 years?
aerokev said:agreed, but if teams have to focus on the running game because of bush and white, you wooud assume that leinert's stats would have gone up rather than decline every year
donart said:I tried to get one of these Leinert lovers to watch your video and he didn't want to see the truth. Thanks for the video, I enjoyed it.:D
aerokev said:i saw quite a few USC games, what do you mean by deep out? do you mean like less then 30 yards? i would guess that 90+ percent of leinerts TDs are from deep out of less than 30 yards. his longest TDs are probably dump offs to Bush. i don't consider most TD's being less than 30 yards a big arm either, but that is just me
saves said:But the opposite has happened. You have to expect the pass because USC has proven they can throw the ball, and White and Bush are just that good where teams can gear up for the run and still get pushed around. That is just one scary backfield. Remember the Fresno State game where Bush just absolutley took over, they don't even need to throw to come from behind, they just have that much faith in Bush, he is that good, and thats why he will likely be picked higher than Leinart.
Hey, you are the one that seems to like bringing up stats so much, personally I think they dont have much to do with the end result. But if you are quoting stats I think you have to consider the only stat that really matters when you are playing a game...aerokev said:yes, that is the true indication of the best QB. all of the years when e. crouch, and D. weufferl, and j. white were leading their teams to national championships, and winning heisman trophys, that was the true sign they would make excellent starting quarterbacks:sidelol:
bullseyeguy said:Hey, you are the one that seems to like bringing up stats so much, personally I think they dont have much to do with the end result. But if you are quoting stats I think you have to consider the only stat that really matters when you are playing a game...
Dont get me wrong, Im not "sold" pn Leinart, I think any QB coming out of college has a huge question mark. However I do think as fr as prospects go Leinart is one of the best in awhile.
aerokev said:he will get picked higher than leinert because most scouts and teams are convinced that bush is the real deal. there are a lot of teams that are not real big on leinerts arm strength. almost everyone thinks bush cannot miss in the NFL, not the case for leinert
kastofsna120 said:that's the dumbest thing you've said yet
byroan said:Nothing he said is right. He even said at one point Lineart should be more like him. :shakeno:
Alex22 said:Happy Holiday everyone, merry x-mas or whatever you celebrate
Leinart doesnt impress me, the fact that he can hit wide open recievers and hand the ball to reggie bush doesnt impress me, if leinart is on texas they arnt undefeated, yet if vince plays for USC they are probally still undefeated
Leinarts arm isnt stronger than Vince's arm so whoever said that should be thrown out of the arguement for lack of knowlege, and Vince's footwork isnt bad at all, his feet are always moving in the pocket so he can avoid defenders and step up to deliver the ball
Give me a break on the schedule, because USC's only REAL game they should have worried about was notre dame and leinart sucked that game untill the very end, and to anyone who is gonna say vince sucked against ohio state should have watched leinart vs ND to see what sucking really is
and why are you going to punish vince for putting the ball right where the WR can make a play on it and the DB cant? Even when he doesnt hit his guys in stride he throws the ball in the right spot his accuracy may not be the best but its more than suitable for the NFL
Leinart has more questionmarks imo than young does
aerokev said:i saw quite a few USC games, what do you mean by deep out? do you mean like less then 30 yards? i would guess that 90+ percent of leinerts TDs are from deep out of less than 30 yards. his longest TDs are probably dump offs to Bush. i don't consider most TD's being less than 30 yards a big arm either, but that is just me