Merged: Same people year after year/Who Won't be on this Team Next Year?

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  1. MikeO

    MikeO Premium Member Donator

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    Same people year after year.....

    It's the same people year after year who keep costing us games and keep making the same mistakes.

    Mare---missing too many easy field goals, isn't worth what he is making.

    Chambers---drops too many footballs, He is NOT a #1 WR in this league. We need to stop fooling oursleves.

    Howard--The guy can't play, thanks Spielman for giving him a contract that makes him impossible to move.

    Saban has only had to put up with these three for 9 games, but its been year after year with these guys and nothing ever changes. Christ, even our crappy O-line got their act together this year and is playing better. Yet, the same 3 guys keep making costly mistakes that cost us games.
     
  2. FIN-IN-RI

    FIN-IN-RI Banned Hammered

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    Yep..If any moves are made befor the season ends it should be putting Chambers at #2 and let Booker be #1.

    Chambers needs an attitude adjustment, IMO.
     
  3. phinpunk14

    phinpunk14 Rock and/or Roll

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    He should be catching td's for how much he's making. I can't believe we gave a kicker that kind of a contract.
     
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    Roman529 Moon Runner / The 3 AM Crew

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    I can't understand why we stick with guys like Mare and Chambers....for all they get paid they let us down. These guys are just not players you can count on in the clutch.
     
  5. MikeO

    MikeO Premium Member Donator

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    Well, Booker isn't a #1 either, but it would send a message to the rest of the team that nobody is safe. And it doesn't matter how much money you make your job isn't safe.
     
  6. Maynard the Hammer

    Maynard the Hammer you are the nail

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    agreed. this team needs some winners
     
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    fishypete FinHeaven Elite

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    I rather see Welker and Booker....let Chambers play the slot.
     
  8. PerfectFinz72

    PerfectFinz72 Pro Bowler

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    I HOPE Saban sends a message that nobody is safe. That means h'll get the right players on the field when we're ready to make a run in the coming years.
     
  9. NYPhinFan

    NYPhinFan FinHeaven VIP

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    Mike..I don't agree with alot of what you say...but you hit this one on the nose..Mare...just kick the makable ones...those are the ones that REALLY win the game.Chambers...this one has been obvious after today...talked about to death..Howard...how the heck can this guy still be on the roster????
    I saw some plays from Howard that I had to TiVo a couple of times because I couldn't believe what i was seeing...one he bit on a play fake...and did anyone see the 2pt conversion where he left the only guy in the area alone???/...there was noone else to cover...so you leave the one guy who is there alone? :shakeno:
     
  10. texasPHINSfan

    texasPHINSfan Pro Bowl

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    good post.

    we need a #1 WR among many other things....

    we need a Holt, Chad Johnson, Santana Moss, Randy Moss, Terrell Owens, huge type of playmaker..... we don't have that. Booker is the closest thing, but he has "on" games and "off" games.
     
  11. twg76

    twg76 Proverbs 3:5-6

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    Yeah. This thread has the right attitude. Saban needs to start making moves. No more BS. You don't get to start because of what you did in the past. It is about what you are doing NOW.
     
  12. ih8brady

    ih8brady 2008 AFC East Champions

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    Are there any legit #1 WR in FA next year? Booker is a #2 guy; CC=>#3
     
  13. Muck

    Muck Now completely imaginary Hammered

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    It'd be tough to move Chambers. I believe the cap hit would be something like $8 million, less the $1.6 base salary. So he'll likely be on the roster next season. 2007 is when his base balloons to $5.4 million. So something will definitely be done by then.

    Howard is gone after this season. I expect Mare to have, at minimum, some competition next year. His strong kickoffs are a big asset to his standing. He's 14-17 this year. But all of his misses are from under 40 yards.
     
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    FireWrongstedt Banned Hammered

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    Other than TO- who I STILL want nothing to do with no matter what- I don't think there is. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
     
  15. Jaj

    Jaj What you say?

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    Only WR who's a huge improvement is T.O.

    Is he worth it, I'm not sure exactly...
     
  16. texasPHINSfan

    texasPHINSfan Pro Bowl

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    screw it, get T.O.

    just do an incentive-laden contract that pays him based on his personality.... every time he talks to the press, he loses 1 million. :D

    at this point, even with his antics i think he'd be worth it. the number of drops we have... its ridiculous.
     
  17. caliVIAmia

    caliVIAmia Well-Known Member

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    Who WON'T be on this team next year?

    Howard - out!

    I really think that Chambers will be traded in the offseason. How about trade our first and chambers for Rivers? Pick up a receiver in the draft?

    I can't imagine Gus being on the team next year because of his age. Maybe he sticks around as a back up.

    I hate to say it, but I think Ricky might not be on the team either. Ronnie needs to be the focus.

    Who else?
     
  18. MikeO

    MikeO Premium Member Donator

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    on T.O.........here is my take

    When you are a bad team (we are 3-6, coming off a 4-12 season) you take the talent! Don't worry about the distraction and other crap. First get the talent. Only "GREAT" teams have to worry about chemistry. First get good, then worry about the chemistry stuff.
     
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    FIN-IN-RI Banned Hammered

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    I dont have an opinion on TO.
     
  20. miamikid92

    miamikid92 PHINS'09!! :D

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    hmm im thinking seau will retire





    lolololol anyone remember the guy who made the post..

    ronnie brown cut in '06? .good times:rofl3:
     
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    I hope we can get TO. His talent alone makes up for his antics outside of football.
     
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    FIN-IN-RI Banned Hammered

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    His antics aren't "outside" of football.
     
  23. Despacio

    Despacio Pro Bowler

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    We need to go out there as throw money at proven talent, at least one or two playmakers. I'm so tired of hoping we find a diamond in the rough QB.
     
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    byroan Banned Hammered

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    They don't happen on Sunday. Except for that fight with Hugh, his antics are saying things to the media.
     
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    Well said, CHAMBERS is the most overrated player on this TEAM....He has been dropping balls all year and even though GUS is NOT the answer at QB, he would look a lot better if the recievers on this team would catch some balls
     
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    LostInPatsLand Pro Bowler

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    No TO! If he can't stand McNabb, what do you think he'd do to Gus? Our trading Surtain shows that we're putting more stock in our future than in our present. Don't ruin that!
     
  27. ohall

    ohall A Miami Dolphins fan, not a players fan.

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    You mean dropping right?

    Yes I had to go there!
     
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    FIN-IN-RI Banned Hammered

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    Yeah but when you say "outside" of football I think of DUI's, drugs, wife-beating, murders.. ya know that sort of thing..

    TO affects team chemistry, which in turn affects what happens on the field on Sundays. Calling out the QB's and coaches, verbal fights on the sidelines and in the locker room it all affects the team's balance as a whole.
     
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    The man is a cancer. His antics have gotten to the point where they overshadow his immense talent. Those are some serious antics. NO to TO.
     
  30. ohall

    ohall A Miami Dolphins fan, not a players fan.

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    You may be right, but Booker is far more a #1 WR than CC. At least Booker has gone to a Pro-Bowl and has shown he will make the hard and easy catches.
     
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    Gus won't be here next year, and TO won't be available till then...
     
  32. Prime Time

    Prime Time Screw You Guys..Im Goin Home!!!

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    Mare might retire a Fin...he will restruct like he always does. He is 14-17 like Muck said. One of them was a bad snap...I don't think he is as bad as people are making him out to be.

    Howard and Chambers...Howard needs to be gone and Chambers needs to be demoted. I remember hearing we have the money to sign one big name player...get a WR...trade for Moss or something...
     
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    LostInPatsLand Pro Bowler

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    Man T.O. would probably dis Marino in his prime. Say to the media that he's no Elway...
     
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    Agreed. It's very frustrating. Howard is the worst DB in Dolphins history - and we've had some bad ones in the past. Chambers is only good in his own mind and some fans' fantasies and Mare is decent, definetly not worth the contract. He has to take a pay cut to stay in Miami. I say we should try to keep him. Place kickers aren't exactly easy to come by, but he has to re-negotiate.
     
  35. FIN-IN-RI

    FIN-IN-RI Banned Hammered

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    Regardless of whether or not Booker is a true #1, putting him there would send a big deserving message to Chambers.
     
  36. ohall

    ohall A Miami Dolphins fan, not a players fan.

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    Well apparently they happen behind closed doors all the time. He is a talented WR, but he is an awful team mate. Plus he has to be an absolute idiot to challenge Hugh Douglas to a fight.

    The only way I would want him here is if he plays under an incentive based contract. One that makes it clear if he acts like a 3-year old he will be cut and the team will suffer no CAP consequences.
     
  37. dlockz

    dlockz Hall Of Famer

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    Yes lets cut Chambers because he did not make a very tough catch. Maybe if Frerotte were better we would not have needed such a hard catch. As for Owens you are joking right yea he is just what the doctor ordered hell we might as well look at Keyshawn.
     
  38. chamber blaze84

    chamber blaze84 Super bowl champion

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    yup like that year, when the pats cut milloy at the beginning of the year and they went to the superbowl.
     
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    FIN-IN-RI Banned Hammered

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    Oh Please. Chambers dropped at least 3 very catchable balls.
     
  40. PhinsOwnBrady

    PhinsOwnBrady Finals here we come!!!!!!

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    First of all Santana Moss shouldnt even be included in that list this is the first year hes done something. And how can Booker be the closest to number 1 if he has on and off games you guys need to get off Chambers back let the man play he is twice as good as booker.
     

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