Miami Dolphins roster, free agents, and salary cap for 2018

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  1. DKphin

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    https://www.thephinsider.com/2018/1...ami-dolphins-create-salary-cap-space-for-2018
     
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    the way I see it: We went 6-10 with Jarvis Landry and Kenny Stills. Last year we went 10-6 but barely won a few games. The only reason we beat the Browns is because their kicker Parkey missed 3 field goals. Thus, we should have gone 9-7 or even 8-8 last year. 11 million a year to make catches is not worth it to me. The Patriots won the super bowl with no-name receivers who can catch footballs, and two offensive linemen who made less than 2 million combined. What this franchise needs is an elite QB. Tannehill is a good QB, but I doubt he will ever be elite. I would rather part ways with Landry (or get a 2nd round pick for him in a trade) than keep spending and losing.
     
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    Exactly. Draft a QB at 11.
     
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    Not sure how you're going to trade a free agent?
    You could sign and trade but I 100% doubt someone would take
    on a contract like he'll get plus give up draft pick/s,not happening

    You think Landry would sign a contract knowing he'd then be traded
    to a team "not his choice" probably the Browns...no way

    The time to trade him was during the season
    and "That ship has sailed"
     
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    The biggest thing I see on that list is that it'd cost the team on dead money over 25mill to get rid of Branch and Alonso......dumb freaking deals we gave them both

    Ozzy rules!!
     
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    Who would you recommend?
     
  8. Phinatic8u

    Phinatic8u Adam ****ing Gase

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    Only way im drafting a qb is trading up to get Rosen..
     
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    Painful isn't it, those two contracts stuck out like a sore thumb.
     
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    Good morning brother. You say $11 million is too much, and then you say Tannehill will never be an elite QB. How do you suppose this will help Ryan get there if you take weapons away from him, he has had an under achieving offensive line and no tight end for most of his time here in a Dolphins uniform.
     
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    Jackson from Louisville
     
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    superphin Starter Finheaven VIP

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    The Patriots won a Super Bowl with arguably the greatest QB of all time and with arguably the best coach of all time.
     
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    I would let Gase the QB guru pick his guy. If he is such a great QB coach he should be able to recognize talent and potential and draft his guy. Every yr until you find one!
     
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    While Rosen could be Phillip Rivers (probably sooner than later), D'arnold could be Aaron Rodgers (probably later than sooner if that makes sense).

    I would roll the dice on the USC QB if I trade up.
     
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    NorFlaFin PowerHungryMo'fo

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    I tag and trade Landry to Cleveland for two 2nd round picks. Take the two picks and draft LBs. Kiki and whoever is the placeholder can take a seat as soon as the two drafted LBs can takeover.
     
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    Tag and trade is a great idea, but your expectations for compensation are waaayyy tooooooo high. To expect two second round picks the Dolphins would have to keep Ju'wuan James on his option and include him in the trade after the start of the league year.

    If both players agreed to sign long term deals rather than play under the franchise tag or the 5th year option, then perhaps a deal could be made.
     
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    Actually, the Colts may be a much better trade partner. They have need at both WR and OT, and with the return of Luck next year, they are a team that may actually be appealing to James and Landry.
     
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    J.James is a separate deal.

    If two or more teams are interested then 2 picks about market value. I would expect more of a pick and player.
     
  19. sinPHIN

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    just curious why you want a qb who is not a known winner and not even his teammates like him? I would really like to know your opinion. The only qb I see with a lot of upside is Jackson and that scares the hell out of me.
     
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    I mean Darnold has more realistic upside than any of them. While Jackson obviously has the highest ceiling, he probably is least likely to get close to his ceiling while also having the lowest floor. He definitely has the most to fix from a mechanics standpoint.

    I do think he'll be exciting to watch and energize a fanbase in need of a QB, especially early on in his career, but it won't lead to much of anything unless he is able to evolve as a passer.
     
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    Darnold definitely has huge potential. I hope he is smart and stays in school. I completely agree about jackson
     
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    He and Rosen already declared.
     
  23. aquabob

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    We could franchise him, which we should do.

    That would give us leverage if we resign him or at least compensation if we lose him.
     
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    My only QB related draft concern is that Josh Allen doesn't go 6th overall.
     
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    I see fans bring this up, but no other team can replicate what the Pats do.
    Besides, the Pats have the best TE in the game, when healthy, and the best coach of this generation.
    They recycle OCs, DCs, players on both sides of the ball without missing a beat.
    Otherwords, there are other ways of winning the Superbowl via spending on your team.
    Just need a good mix of guys on ELCs that can play at a good.high level and quality vets that can come close to matching their salary with their play. And of course competent QB play unless you have the 2016 Denver defense.
    I agree not to be too top heavy on any position in terms of cap, but it's easier said than done to mimic the Pats gameplan.
    And Ryan may not be elite, but getting rid of talent, by simply letting them walk for a potential comp pick isn't a sound way to build a team, especially when it's run by less than stellar FO moves.
     
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    It's the top option if a deal cannot be reached. But that is a $16 million number that dents the cap immediately in 2018 so it isn't the ideal option Miami is seeking.

    That said its there if needed and ultimately will get used if necessary.
     
  27. Canadi-Phin

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    Lets stop doing the compare to the Pats, lets try to do what Pitt has done. Build a fantastic Oline, have great WRs and Rb. I think we have very good WR and RB, Ryan would have gotten us to the playoffs this year. If we have the chance pick Nelson, OG and we will instantly see the benefits as the run game will improve which improves the entire offense.
     
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    I think we are better at guard then Center. We need a center badly. First three picks badly in my eyes.
     
  29. J. David Wannyheimer

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    Rumor: CJ Anderson may be cut or put on the trade block by the Broncos. If true, I expect Miami to be the #1 suitor for his services, given his great relationship with Gase (they still talk regularly) and the fact that Miami already tried to get him from Denver once.
     
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    Hmm interesting how things go, especially after that late match- I can't see why he wouldn't come her if released.

    Denver prob would try hard to trade him before releasing him just to try and keep him away from Gase ...
     
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    I'd be ok with that...great to pair with Drake.
     
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    No dead cap on CJ and he makes 4.5 million in 2017 and in 2018. He will get cut but they will call Miami for sure prior to doing so.

    Yea to me that ship should of sailed tho. Deepest RB class I have seen and early day 3 you should easily be able to pick up a guy to compliment Drake and pay him under 3 million for the next 4 years.

    If Miami is trying to save on cap, this is a move that cannot happen unless that price comes down . . . To around half . . . 2 years, 5 million.

    Still draft a back to battle with Perry and Smith if u do make this move.
     
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    Patriots have a good coaching staff they always do more with less which is not very relevant to our situation
     
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    We could do that and then start the negotiations for a longer term deal. That takes most teams out of the picture, so we don't get into a bidding war (and if we do, lowers the compensation since a first round pick would have to be included).
     
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    I think the Patriots have a great coach (Belicheck), not so much a good coaching staff. I don't think any of their coordinators have ever gone on to have success elsewhere?

    Brady, Belichek, and Adams have been the constants. All the other players and coaches have been a revolving door.
     
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    Him and Gase can work something out if he wants to me here, which I think he would. Im not trading for him though, heck no.
     
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    Phinatic8u Adam ****ing Gase

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    CJ with Drake?

    Good combo, Drake can be the primary but Anderson is a good 3rd down "power" guy.
     
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    It's still amazing to me how Elway gets so much credit. He completely screwed up the CJ situation by not tendering him properly. Could have given him a 2nd round tender and they could have kept him for less than 1.5 million. Instead they match our offer sheet and pay him 6. This board should be calling for aTannenbaums head if he pulled that.
     
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    Don't make ANOTHER mistake JUST to cover up for a couple that were made last year. It's ridiculous. Paying Kiko and Branch $10M each only to let Landry walk is asinine. Especially when your motto is "pay your own". Landry was drafted here. Kiko and Branch were acquisitions. Bite the bullet and pay the man. There are lesser players that could be cut to make room.

    People should really stop trying to compare franchises to NE. As much as it pains me to say....NO ONE has done what they have done in the history of the NFL.
     
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    C.J. Anderson’s been hurt a lot since he signed that Denver contract

    Meh
     

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