Miami fans and Jets fans views of good QB.

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  1. rvz1020

    rvz1020 Well-Known Member

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    I wasnt sure where to post this so I started a thread to express my opinion on miami fans rating Henne and Jets fans rating Sanchize.

    Us miami fans were spoiled during all the Marino years. Every qb that starts for Miami is always compared to Marino. So of course when they cant do what Marino has done all those years, us fans say he is not a franchise qb, or he stinks, etc. Take this to the bank, Miami will never have another Danny boy on this team, they arent easy to come by.

    On the other hand, since the jets have been in the NFL, they never had a good starting qb, not even Joe Namath. So when a Richard Todd or Ken Obrien or Mark Sanchize comes along the Jets fans think they are better then they really are becasue they dont know any better.
     
  2. CalDolFan10x14

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    This should be another good Henne VS Sanchez thread.
     
  3. beanh8er

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    Good thinking but in reality it's because Jets' fans are retarded, and they think that the only analysis they need is "herp derp Sanchez started and we won therefore he's the best QB ever herp derp".
     
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    I think both fan groups can agree it is Tom Brady.
     
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    sanchez is overrated as hell. phin fans have been spoiled up untill dan retired. hopefully chad can continue to turn things around. as for jets fans opinions, thats like getting an opinion from a retarded dog.
     
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    nujunc will have something to say when he sees this thread.
     
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    Well week 1 goes to Henne in individual performances
     
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    Naw bro Sanchez won his game he obviously played better
    /Jet Fan post
     
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    I don't even think 'junc' will stop by for this one.
     
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    Jets fans know next to nothing about football. It's like Yankee fans in baseball.
     
  13. roy_miami

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    Yup, its all relative.

    Look at Romo, he's getting murdered by the media because of a few bone headed plays, and maybe its well deserved. On the other hand Henne is getting praised for his 400 yard performance in whats being called a career game for him, and its true, he looked much better than usual..

    But let me ask this, was Romo's fumble at the 2 any worse than Henne throwing it out of the end zone on that 4th down play to Hartline? At least Romo had the lead and losing the ball at the 2 like he did isn't going to happen very often. In Henne's case he was behind by a touchdown but whats worse is throwing an uncatchable on 4th down is going to result in a turnover on downs close to 100%.

    Again its all relative, Henne was so poor last year that we're willing to settle for a mediocre performance, hell some are even praising him. For me personally, I'm going to hold back any excitement until he starts playing like that and WINNING.
     
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    Fumbling at the 2 when a FG puts you up 2 scores is definitely worse. Henne had to make a play and failed. Romo would have been better off kneeling it.
     
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    It wasn't Henne's career best game - (he does like Monday night Games though) it was a game where he rolled up yards upon yards - there were still many mistakes - Romo however is a proner underachiever who would rather be golfing - Romo coughed the game up for his team while Henne did not cough that game up, everyone but a few knows this to be true
     
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    You're definitely wrong, its not even close. Why didn't they just kick a field goal on third down?

    In Henne's case he would have been better off throwing it at the DBs back. He would have gotten a PI a lot of the time because the DB wasn't even trying to look for the ball and Hartline would have had at least a chance at making the catch. Henne just didn't understand the situation, throwing an uncatchable ball is the same as just handing the ball to the Patriots in that situation. There isn't an elite or even good QB in the league that would make that throw in that situation.
     
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    It may sound like I'm hating on Henne but I'm really not, if he can play like that all year I think we can win 9 games which is an upgrade from the 6 I predicted pre-season. I just think its funny that Romo is the goat of the NFL and Henne is getting praised but the reality is Romo is still much better than Henne. I think Henne can help the team win now as opposed to the team winning in spite of him but I`m still not going to say he can carry the team on his back for a win.
     
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    He will be here, and point out that the Jets have been to 2 AFCC games in the last 2 years under Sanchez. :chuckle:



    I disagree. A QB can not win a game on his own, but he sure can lose it on his own. Romo lost that game on his own. Henne played well enough for us to win that game and that is all you can ask from the QB. Had the defense been a shadow of what it was last year, the Dolphins win. If all you needed was a great QB to win, Marino would have multiple SB rings, but it takes more than that.
     
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    The Jets fans think Henne sucks and Miami fans know Sancheez sucks..
    What else can be said....
     
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    Junc will likely be here soon. He never passes up a chance to pretend like Sanchez is good.
     
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    As soon as he gets Snatcho's junc out of his own hand that is....
     
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    Sanchez touches little kids. Fact.
     
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    Sanchez Blows ***!!! overrated piece of **** -_______-
     
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    So now Henne's performance is mediocre. Wow :bobdole:

    Romo's mistake was far worse. All he needed to do was kneel, and the Cowboys probably win, while Chad on the other hand had a bit more to think about.

    For Chad it was still early, but 4th down, but if he forces it and it's an INT, the Pats get the ball on the 20, the plan was to throw a low risk pass (Yes the pass was horrible) so it either gets caught for a TD or the Pats get the ball on the 1st yards line.

    Obviously giving the ball to the Pats (& Brady) on the 1 yard line was a mistake, but getting the Pats on the 1 yard line should have worked in Miami's favor if the defense had played better.
     
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    I think we'll end up seeing this season that Henne is clearly the better QB - he's going to have a significantly higher rating than Sanchez. However, the Jets may do better as a team, so nothing will be settled.
     
  28. Ronnie2.0

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    Who cares, he(sanchez) obviously makes "enough" plays for his "team" to win, even if thats throwing 2 picks instead of 3 LOL. In all seriousness henne's individual performance is kinda cool but who cares if its in a loss... Ill take his buffalo performance last year (9 for 15 160 yards no TD's no Picks) in a win instead of 400 yards in a loss...
     
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    I can't believe some of you people are suggesting its worse to fumble at the 2 on third down with the lead than it is to fumble on 4th down and behind. Are you serious? Thats so ridiculous you might as well just say "its better to be behind than ahead". I know Henne didn't fumble but throwing the ball away on 4th down is effectively the same as fumbling.

    As for the mediocre comment, if it makes you sleep better at night to say Henne is the second best QB in the league then go right ahead. In my mind if you miss a good opportunity to get your team back in the game, the only opportunity as it turned out, you didn't play great.
     
  30. state06

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    how can you equate an attempt at scoring on 4th down with a fumble? other than being the last play of our possession there is no similarities in how they affect the game

    Next you will say that throwing a INT on a 40 yard bomb is the same as punting the ball.
     
  31. Ronnie2.0

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    a TURNOVER on downs is still a turnover.......just cause it doesnt show up in the stat sheet doesnt it change what it really is....
     
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    in its simplest form, yes. if Henne fumbles the snap then we lose the ball before we get a chance to make a play...if he is strip sacked then the D has a greater chance to return it for 6 or atleast start with better field position than they would on a turnover on downs. other things come out of it also, such as people complaining about Henne turning it over by fumbling, thoughts creeping into Henne's head such as being benched if he turns it over again, better not take anymore shots. Fan's reactions...bench henne! trade for orton! sign Garrard! TE-BOW! etc. Sparano wondering if he made the right choice by investing so much into Chad this season. Media reaction. PLAYER reaction. many many factors play major roles in a teams success and i would rather see a TURNOVER on downs anyday over a FUMBLE or INT.
     
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    No similarities? If Henne fumbles, they get the ball at the 2. If Henne throws it 4 feet over Hartlines head they get the ball at the 2.

    I guess I should cut Henne some slack because judging from the responses the thought of giving your receiver at least a fighting chance at making a play at the ball on 4th down seems to be difficult for some to grasp.
     
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    the cowboys had a chance to either score a TD, or kick a FG. on 3rd down, Romo tried to make something out of nothing on a broken play instead of playing perhaps more smart. The result of the play was his fumble and Turnover. the Cowboys didnt get either of them, ultimately losing the game by (you guessed it) 3 points.you said why not kick on 3rd? they didnt kick on 3rd because a TD put them in a better position to win than a FG, but that is obvious.

    Henne, on 4th had to either get it in the endzone or turn it over. we knew one or the othther was going to happen. comeback falls short. we live to fight another day
     
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