Miller Time?

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  1. So Be

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    Thomas is out, and Bush is still nursing the knee injury. The Lambs are weak vs the run, and this could be a VG opportunity for Miller. His blocking scares me but, we are going to need him.
     
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    Probably not no. The fact he got zero snaps last week says something. This forum adores him because of what college team he played for but he just isnt NFL ready. Expect to see more of Thigpen and Lane. Miller will get more snaps than last week but its not that hard to improve on zero.
     
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    Miller makes one run against a gassed oak defense and everyone wants him to start.
     
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    He made more than one run and his ypc is pretty good. It makes sense to give more carries now since Reggie is banged up a little. And just watching him compared to d Thomas, Lamar looks like a natural rb with good patience and vision where a Thomas looks clunky and indecisive when he runs
     
  5. So Be

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    Not talking about starting, just the situation we're in.
     
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    Too bad he did't go to UCF
     
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    Like to see him get 12-15 carries tomorrow.
     
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    Miller's role will remain limited, I expect to see him on some screens against the blitz to neutralize the pressure coming at Tanny.
     
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    Wrong. He's averaging 5 ypc without that run. IMHO he isn't ready to start, but so far he's been an effective runner, and he will eventually break one.
     
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    From what I was reading about Miller, he wasn't understanding the playbook, and Philbin kind of has him in his doghouse. I think the talent is there...he just needs to put in the effort.
     
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    thigpen is not playing over miller lol, thigpen better improve his returns or he might lose the only reason he was kept over slaton
     
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    You do realise he is a top 10 if not top 5 punt returner? The internet never ceases to amaze me.
     
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    lol its always funnny to read all the ppl on finheaven who think they actually know the dolphins gameplan for every game. Face it ppl, no one knows philbins game plan, everyon sittin here sayin he is sittin out you are just taking a guess like everyone else, philbin wont give out his gameplan to anyone, miller might be involved in the gameplan, no one knows, but the speculation can continue as usual.
     
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    outside of week 1 what has he done? take away that 1 punt and Thigpen averages 9.27 yards per punt return which is 23rd. he is also 25th in kickoff returns. in the Jets game he is why we started inside the 20 on 3 occasions

    he fields punts at the wrong time inside the 20, his decision making is very questionable, please dont base everything on stats and watch the game
     
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    And that fumble recovery last week against the Bungles is solely on Thigpen. Another huge problem with Thigpen is he doesnt field the punts, if he doesnt start doing that and helping this team out with hidden lost yards he will find himself playing north of the border yet again! No way does he take snaps from Miller, your out of your mind. In the preseason he barely sniffed a run, he was mostly used as a slot receiver on offense, and that wasn't until the 4th quarter when teams are just trying to end games!

    I do agree he has had some nice kick returns, but he has had alot of issues back there, hence the reason we see Bess back there during the crucial moments of games, that doesn't speak well of Thigpen if Philbin and Co are putting Bess back there at his sole position during crunch time! Bess is 1 of 2 weapons on offense so throwing him out there for special teams says alot about the faith in Thigpen in crunch time!
     
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    This forum wants him to play because he averages way more yards per carry and is a big play threat whereas Daniel Thomas sucks *** and is still playing for some reason.
     
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    Does he? He was brilliant last week, very effective passing out sports drinks.
     
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    4.0 YPC is sort of the benchmark for RBs. It's been that way for a Looooooong time in the NFL. Thomas has had ample opportunity to do his thing,
    and has not done it. Miller has looked better in a shorter time. Just the way it is.

    I hope this doesn't lead to another Ronnie Brown thing, where people are convinced he's "Elite" and then
    he goes on to do......Nothing.....as he's traded away.

    11 carries for 40 yards and a 3.6 average.

    Sounds about right.
     
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    I like the guy he was at one time a 1st round prospect. I think in a year or 2 he can be a legit starter. I would like to see him improve on the blocking before we relied on him for alot. I dont want to see Tanny get killed b/c this kid wiffed on a block.
     
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    A golden opportunity for Miller. I would like to see him take advantage of it and contribute with a big game.
     
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    Too much is made of Miller's pass protection, or lack thereof. It's overblown. You can find plenty of opportunities to have Miller in there despite this.

    I think people forget Miami runs a WCO. Backs like him can easily be hidden. Do you think Miller is the first speed back who had problems pass blocking early in his career ?? PLEASE. If you're passing, motion him or have him run pass routes out of the backfield. We have other guys like Lane who we can keep in there to block. Or run the ball like Miller's totally capable of doing. Against the Jets and Raiders , when Miller saw action, there was no difference between he and Reggie Bush at the 2nd level. Thomas didn't look near as good against the same defensive fronts and at the same time

    Miller clearly has talent and playmaking ability.. Miller's acceleration was absolutely breathtaking a few times...something this offense needs. I do my best to have both Miller and Bush on the field at the same time (for about 7 or 8 plays) in the passing game. both have great speed and at least one of them will create a mismatch on a LB. Both on the field at the same time would cause defenses some problems and mismatch opportunities for the offense. If defenses overload on both miller and bush, then fine, that will leave other guys open

    the point is having miller and bush in there for about 8-12 snaps per game would increase the overall productivity of the offense. Bush and Miller are too talented for that not to happen if a coach knows how to utilize them properly. The amount of misdirection play possibilities would be tremendous alone. You can do a hell of a lot of things with both out there on the field.
     
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    If he plays like he did when we played Oakland, he will be fine.
     
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    I think Miller should be worked into the rotation with the Thomas situation and with Reggie being nicked....hope to see him produce. The sad part about Thomas is, I really don't think he was drafted originally to be just a running back. He was drafted when meatball was the head coach, and given the fact that he was a former QB, I think the thought process was to develop him eventually into a "wildcat" package...just my opinion. Now that there has been a change at head coach, and offensive philosophy, and the fact that a high draft pick was spent on him, you try to see what you can get out of him before you just cut him loose.....his concussion issue isn't helping his situation either.
     
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    Clay was the same way.
     
  25. So Be

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    Bush is about as bad as you can get in blocking. Over the past 3 years, he is third worst of all RB's in the NFL.
     
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    If anyone here actually thinks Daniel Thomas is better than Lamar Miller, you are sniffing something. Miller ha shown more than Thomas already in the few games he has played. For example, he can be breathed on without getting some kind of injury.
     
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    The adjustment for RB's in the NFL is very quick. We aren't grooming a QB! Thats why Thomas sucks. He didn't have it to start with, and he never will. If a RB isn't effective within a few games, he most likely is gonna flop. LET MILLER PLAY!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  28. uk_dolfan

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    Told you. Dont push the kid before he is ready.
     

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