My take on the offseason issues for the Dolphins

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  1. BALLS DEEP

    BALLS DEEP Guess Who's Back.

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    Ok,

    Here's my take on the offseason needs for the Dolphins. As the song said in Smokey and the Bandit "We've got a long way to go and a short time to get there". I know most of you don't percieve that we are that far away, but read on.

    We have to keep Linehan. I know that some of you aren't concerned...YOU SHOULD BE. Record wise, I don't know if the 8 (might be 10 at some point with the Jets and Bills) is unprecedented or not. But, that's almost 1/3 of the league looking for coaches. Yeah, there may be some college coaches that can come in. There also may be 1 or 2 coaches that just got fired who might take head coaches elsewhere. But at the end of the day, there could be 5 - 7 HC jobs that are suitable to assistant coaches.

    To take care of this, I'd recommend that Huizenga back the brinks truck up to Linehan's house and make him a great deal. It won't hurt our cap and will maintain the integrity of our offensive attack. The 'Skins just did a similar thing with one of their AC's.

    We need to get a high profile QB. Frerotte is a band-aid at best when it comes to the QB position. I'd love to see us get a first round QB (Linehan, Young, or Cutler.) In order to do this we need to be prepared to trade up in the first round. We need Saban's Dan Marino/John Elway. Not someone who we pick up at a steal in the 3rd or 4th round and hope we hit on. We need to get gutsy!

    Obviously, we may choose to find our new QB via free agency. Maybe we pick up Patrick Ramsey from Washington. Maybe we figure out how to get Brees or Rivers (Though Brees' injury may complicate this). I'll leave it up to Saban to determine who's the right guy. BUT, we have to find THE right guy for our O. In order to properly do this, obviously we will have had to have kept Linehan around. If we haven't then we need to have a firm grasp of what our offense will ideally look like. So, we can choose the QB with the right attributes for our O. In later years, we'll obviously plan our O around the QB.

    Secondary

    We've all read that Madison won't renegotiate his contract to stay a Phin. We also all know that he's making way too much money to not be uber dominant (which he hasn't). So, he's going bye-bye. We also need to get rid of Reggie Howard. With Poole coming back and Daniels proving to be a stud, we still need help. We'll have to address that somehow someway.

    O-Line

    Sweaty ba!ls Mckinney needs to go. He just isn't the mauler we need at center. Center is the lynchpin of the whole O-line. We need someone in the mold of a Kevin Mawae. Someone who is just big strong and really really nasty! We also need to look at potentially a new LT.

    WR

    Chambers had a great second half! You couldn't have asked for more DURING THE SECOND HALF. What happened during the first 10 games? Are his drops over for good? Is his focus going to be as good all next year as it wqas the last six games? These questions make me a little nervous. I don't want to make this into a "Chambers sucks" thread because I don't think he sucks. Should we bring in a good WR anyways? It would depend on whose available, but I would say yes. Worse case scenario is that we add another stud WR to compliment Chambers, Booker, and sometimes Welker.

    Thoughts?
     
  2. gottahavefootba

    gottahavefootba The Predator

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    As far as chambers goes, I would not say by any stretch that his drops went away in the last 6 games. It was just simply they threw him the ball alot more for what ever reason. I seem to remember something like FTS right around when Chambers started rolling. But he was still dropping just as many balls.
     
  3. finfan54

    finfan54 A True Fan Donator

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    I think we have to wait and see on the QB front. I dont think Saban wants an old vet QB. He already has one. I think he is going to wait on the Cutler situation and look at Croyle, Shockley.

    No doubt we need to keep Linehan but I think Saban has already known for some time now that he is gone sooner rather than later. I think he already has people in mind and is already talking to those people getting ideas.

    On the OL front, I think we get a FA G and hadnot becomes C while drafting a late rounder C/G from some unknown place. We will draft a LT for sure IMO.

    WR I think is good and could simply use someone like Josh Reed who will play for Saban all out as compared to Tom Donoblow and the buffalo chips. All that is if Booker stays. If not, then we get a big FA in Wayne if possible. TO? I dont know about that one but Saban has a history of taking on bad characters and turning them around.
     
  4. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Manning to Tyree = Best SB Play EVER!!!!

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    I don't think bringing another stop gap qb is going to be the fix. Generally it takes a year for an offense to get in sync. I do think Gus is a problem, however unless Miami brings a long term solution I don't see the point in getting rid of him.
     
  5. VManis

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    Nice read and I agree with most of what you said.

    I wouldn't put too much stock in Poole's return. He has been hurt the past two years and could become the CB equivalent of Yantil Green. Hope it doesn't happen but we need to be prepared.

    I would like to see Linehan return but Saban has a long history of turnover on his staff so I think he can rebound fairly quickly if he does.

    Now for the important question how did you come up with Mckinney's nickname, please tell me it isn't from first hand knowledge. :sidelol:
     
  6. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Manning to Tyree = Best SB Play EVER!!!!

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    I don't remember Poole getting hurt the year before. At least not seriously.
     
  7. Oboy

    Oboy Premium Member

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    You have us filling a few holes there. Not even mentioning the Safety position. Not sure we will be able to fill everything. Getting "gutsy", if you mean trading up to get a premier QB, well then there went more of our draft picks and thus being able to fill holes. We all want that "perfect" team, but in reality, I think we stay with our current WR's (unless some decent vet is out there cheap) and I think McKinney stays. He did a good job this year. I was one of his biggest critics, but he did ok this year. Would I like a new C? The Mauler you mentioned... Heck yeah. Just not sure we will be able to fill everything. I would prefer getting a future QB and shoring up the secondary (Safety and maybe a CB).
     
  8. VManis

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    You know your right, my bad but its still risky to count on a CB coming back from injury.
     
  9. AZfinfan

    AZfinfan Seasoned Veteran

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    Is Shockley a senior? I have only watched him a couple of times he may be a nice project. Any clues where he is projected?
     
  10. WindyCityDolfan

    WindyCityDolfan The Phins are back, Baby!

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    I think that we all should remember that there are many different ways to go to build a winner. Although I would love to have a franchise QB I think I am in the camp it sounds like Saban sides with....you have to go with what the situation dictates and no REACHING just to fit your needs. For instance, if we lost a bunch of picks to get young or linert? we would still have a bunch of holes and it would take a couple of years to get the QB up to NFL speed.....that may work although the price might be huge....I feel just as comfortable getting a stud CB in the first round, a stud safety in the second, and others in the Daniels, Crowder mode to fill needs in the 3rd and 4th......while at the same time signing and LT and a guard as FA's and using GUs again for another year. I don't like the idea of GUs again completely but I would be quite excited with the above plan I described. Our defense would be young and with a strong S and CB we would be moving to top 7 or 8 status in my opinion and with a couple more OL guys I think our offense (which was ranked #14 with GUs) would definitely progress into the top 7 or 8.....it is hard to argue with that.

    The alternative....trading several picks to get Young or Linert, means the defense continues with holes or the OL (you can't fill them all with high priced FA's). but we have a better QB who will struggle as a rookie most certainly.

    I am just rambling now....
     
  11. miamirick

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    Good post....

    I'll add a point or two:

    1. I think Booker is a goner if he doesn't restructure.
    2. We definitely need another CB and maybe a safety.
    3. Gus will be back IMO...this team isn't too far from completing for a spot in the playoffs, so I say we take get a high quality vet AND a rookie to groom for the future.
     
  12. BALLS DEEP

    BALLS DEEP Guess Who's Back.

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    That's why he fumbled the snaps so many times last year. He swetas too much all over the ball. Feeley used to b!tch about it left and right.

    I'm realllllllly concerned about this Linehan thing. This team was starting to gel on offense. Now they have to implement ANOTHER OC's plan? That's like the 5th new O coordiantor in the last 6 years!
     
  13. miamirick

    miamirick Seasoned Veteran

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    Losing Linehan really would suck and it would set our offence back...I predict he'll stick around for at least one more year though.
     
  14. NewEra8

    NewEra8 2004 1-AA National Champs

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    Linehan's a high profile QB? lol Nah, I agree with the majority of what youre saying... good write-up bro.... Just fix the Linehan is a firstround QB draftee
     
  15. BALLS DEEP

    BALLS DEEP Guess Who's Back.

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    I listed my holes by priority. Or as Madden says on defense you should "first fill the B hole then hit the A hole" :lol:

    QB is the most important. Of the games we lost this year, which game (if any) would we have lost with one of the elite QB's (McNabb, Manning, Palmer, or even Plummer) behind center? If you think Chambers was lighting it up with Sage and Gus throwing it to him, imagine what he'd be doing with one of those QB's.

    My point is, QB has to be the first priority after keeping Linehan (which conveniently according to the calendar, it will be). With Saban's D, we can slow the other team down enough with almost anyone at corner as long as we score consistantly on O! We need a QB to do that! It'll open up the running game! It'll cure world hunger! It'll find Waldo! An elite QB for the Dolphins will cause world peace! It must be the first priority. We have to leave no stone uncovered. We have to plant hidden microphones at the combine. We have to hire Psychics, fernologists (tell the future by reading the bumps on your head), and call Miss Cleo! All to help us find the right guy. I'll trade my unborn children to the JETS to get a shot at Young, Leinhart or Cutler. It's a MUST!
     
  16. Aqua and Orange

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    QB should be at the top of our list. Linehan is good, but there are other good guys out there. I wouldnt mind norv turner coming back.
     
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    They can lose him, and still keep the system. He isn't the only one who knows the offensive system.
     
  18. BALLS DEEP

    BALLS DEEP Guess Who's Back.

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    Well that's what the In-the-know people are saying. I don't follow College really! I just want the best of what's available. I don't care if it's Alf or Kramer from Seinfeld!!!! Whoever is the BEST!
     
  19. NewEra8

    NewEra8 2004 1-AA National Champs

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    haha I think that youre thinking of Matt Leinhart from USC... but oh well, doesnt take away from the post... good job
     
  20. BALLS DEEP

    BALLS DEEP Guess Who's Back.

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    Didn't we think that about Norv Turner and Chan Gailey?
     
  21. BALLS DEEP

    BALLS DEEP Guess Who's Back.

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    NO! His offense was mediocre! We must get rid of all threads of the JJ era!
     
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    NewEra8 2004 1-AA National Champs

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    If we do lose Linehan, what do you think of Turner coming back?
     
  23. Barry20

    Barry20 You Play To Win The Game

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    I hope we don't get norv turner
     
  24. BALLS DEEP

    BALLS DEEP Guess Who's Back.

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    I felt his offense was mediocre when he was here. BUT, you have to think that same offense had Fiedler as QB. We lost OG in the middle of his time here so we didn't always have a great posession reciever either. Ricky ran wild in his O. But that same wild streak Ricky had under him, led to his retirement due to over use.

    It's also hard to say how much influence Wannstedt had on Turner's offensive plans. Was Turner's real offense utilized or did Wanny water it down by ordering too many running plays.

    It would be interesting to look at. I know Ricky wouldn't be too fond of it at first.
     
  25. CChambers7284

    CChambers7284 The Biggest Fins Fan from CT

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    Yeah chambers still did drop some passes in the second half but
    We threw to him more and he worked harder to get to the ball
     
  26. rafael

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    Linehan is already one of the highest paid assistant coaches in the league. If he leaves it won't be for money, it will be for the opportunity to be the HC. That's something that Huizenga can't put in the brinks truck.
     
  27. BALLS DEEP

    BALLS DEEP Guess Who's Back.

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    Linehan makes a Million a year. Head Coaches make more. If Huizenga doesn't want him to leave, he'll have to up the ante.
     
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    No, no, no please..... When Norv was brought in, he was considered a "genius" with his schemes ect.. However I had never seen such a vanilla form of offense then when he ran it... It was run, run, short pass, punt.... I really hope they keep Linehan but I don't think they can... I trust Saban will do the right thing.... :dolphins:
     
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    SL wants to be a head coach. If his salary here doubles to 2 mill/yr and he gets a HC offer, he'll still leave.
     
  30. FrankP

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    I think the same... It's unfortunate, because I am sure the Pats dynasty would not have been the same if Weiss left after their first superbowl... basically after year 1.

    We need continuity, that would hurt big-time.
     
  31. nopony

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    Scott Linehan is no Charlie Weiss.
     
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    I believe we draft LB or DB in 1st round, and hope that player can contribute early.

    We draft a 2-4th round QB or try and get Ramsey, Schaub, or Rivers.

    Also, try and beef up the OL via free agency! This is critical!

    Look at what the Seahawks did last offseason...that OL has boosted Shaun to an even higher level and has finally given Hasselbeck protection he needs.
     
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    FA and Draft...what to do

    Who to Release:
    Booker (WR- +2.9m),
    James (OL- +2m),
    Mckinny
    (OL-dont resign), C
    arter
    (DL- +1m),
    Seau
    (LB- +1.5m),
    Madison (CB- +4m),
    Howard
    (CB- +1.5m),
    Jones
    (S- + 1m),

    Restructure:

    MARE
    , TAYLOR, ZACH

    (+3m = 2.9+2+1+1.5+4+1.5+1+3 = 17m = that gives us three to five big FA signings.)

    BIG FA SIGNING:
    LeCharles Bentley
    (C- -2.25m = Garza form Chicago just signed a 6 year $14m = both same caliber C),
    Toniu Fonoti
    (G- -1.75m Former onlineman with Hudson Hauck),
    Steve Hutchinson
    (G - -3.5m A Pro-Bowler),
    Nate Clements
    (CB- -4m good tackler just what saban loves),
    Chris Hope (S- -2m)

    (-2.25-1.75-3.5-4-2 = -13.5m + 17m = 3.5m left over)

    Draft:
    1st Rounder: Marcus McNeil (LT- Auburn he is 6'9 330)
    2nd Rounder: Anotnio Cromartie (CB- FSU..the best CB in the nation but was injured...if not available...) Carpenter (LB- Ohio State), Devin Hester (CB- more of an athlete...we have the coaches to teach him technique), Ahmad Brooks (LB- Vriginia), Best Available
    3rd Rounder:Brodie Croyle (QB- Alabama), A.J. Nicholson (LB- FSU..will drop bc charged with rape), Best Available
    4th Rounder:Best Available
    2 7th Rounders: Best Available
     
  34. Dors156

    Dors156 He's Backkkkk

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    i believe chambers is good as a #1 wide reciever.i think we should get a rookie for the #2 spot.o-line is good but drafting one and having the emergence of anthony alabi will help.secondary i want devin hester to play slot with daniels starting and get nate clements.and poole will challenge for a starting position.
     
  35. Dolphin North

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    Hey maybe that was Gus' post and he did get the Sweaty Balls name from first HAND knowledge!;)

    Set! Hut! Hu.....Ewwww!
     

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