New Columnist?

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  1. Shouright

    Shouright Banned Hammered

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    I'm interested in becoming a columnist on Finheaven. I've been a die-hard (i.e., several broken remote controls) fan since 1979, and I spend a lot of time at the site during the season and in the offseason.

    Having a Ph.D. in psychology and being a practicing psychologist, as well as thinking about football and the Dolphins in psychological terms most of the time, I feel I could add a distinctive column to the site.

    I believe I'm also an excellent writer -- I was the Sports Editor for my high school newspaper, and I've published several journal articles in the field of psychology.

    Admins -- please let me know what you think and how I might proceed with this -- thanks.
     
  2. Muck

    Muck Now completely imaginary Hammered

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    If you can tell me what I'm thinking right now, you've got the job. :tongue:

    Seriously, you have PM. :)
     
  3. Shouright

    Shouright Banned Hammered

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    I had PM that asked for a sample article, wrote one in a morning, sent it to Muck as a PM, and haven't gotten a response, not even an acknowledgement of receipt even after sending an additional PM wondering whether he'd received it. If he thought the article stunk, he could've let me know directly -- I'm a big boy and I can handle it.

    For anyone else who's thinking about doing this, I'd suggest you not waste your time and effort unless you think your results would be different from mine. I'll still enjoy the site, just not as a columnist.
     
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  4. Jwcolour

    Jwcolour Banned Hammered

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    Im sure he'll get back to you...sometimes you aren't looking for PM's until someone tells you they've sent you one
     
  5. Muck

    Muck Now completely imaginary Hammered

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    Relax bro. I've been pretty busy lately with life and have a ton of email and PMs stacked up still waiting for me, including yours. Even now I'm still at work, 12 hours after I got there. Just checking in. I'm off one day a week, if that.

    Enough about me. I'll get back to you as soon as I can.
     
  6. Shouright

    Shouright Banned Hammered

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    I'm relaxed. And I'm patient as long as you hurry. ;)
     
  7. TerryTate

    TerryTate Banned Hammered

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    Im on staff and he still hasnt gotten to my PMs. So don't feel like you've been hosed. :roflmao:
     
  8. Shouright

    Shouright Banned Hammered

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    Has he asked you to send him a PM with an article in it? If you're gonna do that, the least you could do is get back to the person within a reasonable amount of time. At this point it's really ridiculous, especially since Muck is using plenty of his time making posts of his own (can't help but notice since I post often myself). I'd feel much better about this had he said, "sorry bro -- I'd tell you to write an article and send it to me as a PM, but then I wouldn't have any time to read it anyway." At least then I wouldn't have wasted my time. Either that, or get back to me shortly after telling me he had no time (like within a week) to tell me to forget it because he'd never have time. You don't just leave someone straggling along while you do your thing after you've asked them to do something FOR you.
     
  9. inFINSible

    inFINSible Don't believe everything you think.

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    Somebody call a Whaaaaaambulance. ;)
     
  10. Shouright

    Shouright Banned Hammered

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    Is that the one that comes when people try to uphold basic human standards of decency? Yeah, then I guess I need that one....

    Just makes it seem like this thing is being run by High School kids, that's all....
     
  11. FIN-IN-RI

    FIN-IN-RI Banned Hammered

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    :lol: C'mon now.

    Here's a bet: Do better and I'll paypal you $200.
     
  12. Shouright

    Shouright Banned Hammered

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    High School kids are great at technical/computer stuff -- they just don't know how to relate to adults yet. Never said I could do better with the technical/computer stuff.
     
  13. FIN-IN-RI

    FIN-IN-RI Banned Hammered

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    Being an adult you should know:
    "You can't always get what you want, when you want it."

    Anyway, this is someone's hobby, it's not his duty..

    College kids run this website not high school kids and they do know how to relate to adults - one practically runs his own buisness.

    It really isn't any of my buisness but I interjected because I see no reason for you to be whining..
     
  14. Shouright

    Shouright Banned Hammered

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    So you don't think someone has a duty to respond, out of human decency, when he's asked you to do something for him and you do it? You don't think that when someone asks you for more time to evaluate something he's asked you to do, he should get back to you with some kind of update on what's going on within some reasonable time frame? You don't think that the person should spend whatever available time he has on what he asked YOU to do FOR him instead of on his own agenda?

    Yeah, you can't always get what you want when you want it, but you sure can ask for something reasonable and gripe when you don't get it. I'm sure you've done this too pal. Or are you so busy trying to preserve your positive image of Finheaven and its administrators that you can't even support basic human decency?

    And you may want to go back and look at the dates of the posts in this thread before (if) you respond -- without doing that it tends to look like everything's happened within a few days. Not so -- over two weeks have passed since Muck told me he'd get back to me as soon as he could, and during that time I've seen him respond to numerous threads as well as start his own without even so much as a "here's an update for you."
     
  15. FIN-IN-RI

    FIN-IN-RI Banned Hammered

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    I just think you're a little upset over nothing.
    Overreaction comes to mind..Anxiety maybe?

    Things happen man! :)

    I'm done here though. Have a Good Day.

    P.S. Maybe you should PM AJ about your concern.
     
  16. Shouright

    Shouright Banned Hammered

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    Sure things happen, and people react to them too. And you're right -- I am a little upset (emphasis on "little"). I don't think it's an overreaction at all though. How else should one react to something like this? Hold your upsetness in? Go postal? I'm doing neither -- I think this is an appropriate response.
     
  17. Jwcolour

    Jwcolour Banned Hammered

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    Do ya really want to write articles that bad?
     
  18. inFINSible

    inFINSible Don't believe everything you think.

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    You said it's been weeks and you're right but, your first response was only 4 days after Muck responded to you in this thread and I don't know if you realize it or not but, it sounds a little pissy, especially the part I highlighted.

    Again, it was made after only 4 days, not two weeks, and this is just a guess but, I bet your attitude in this post is a red flag.

    To me it says, that entering into a working relationship with someone who displays an attitude and quick temper like that, may be more trouble than it's worth. But again, that's just a guess on my part, I may be completely wrong.
     
  19. FinHeavenAJ

    FinHeavenAJ FinHeaven Lives

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    If you have an issue with someone on the staff, you don't point them out. You should simply contact myself.

    I mean, really... do you personally know what it's like to come home to hundreds of emails and probably 10-15 PMs a day all relating to FinHeaven? I really don't think so. George and I specifically don't go around telling each other that we won't reply to individuals... we forget, we're human. I made the mistake several times last season of forgeting to send out people's t-shirts. Not many, if any, complained... and were very thankful when they received their shirt.

    Unfortunately, you're not that case. Obviously, there is a ton to write about now and there is a huge rush to find new writers. And obviously you have our utmost concern and priority.

    In the end, I would say I'm sorry like I do to many others when George or I forget something. But this time I'm really not sorry, instead I'm thankful that you're not a writer.

    Oh, by the way... that high school student reference really did tick me off. I mean, I'm 20 going on 21 and I really can't recall how old George is... but he's damn intelligent... along with the rest of the staff who understand and apply patience in their own life.

    Have a great day man...
     
  20. Shouright

    Shouright Banned Hammered

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    Later dudes....
     
  21. Muck

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    Looks like I'm late getting to this thread. Long story short, my apartment has no electricity (Day 2) and I'm having a time trying to get someone out there to fix the problem. I'm at work so I don't have much time.

    Anyway, I apologize for the late reply. As was the case here, I do forget things from time to time.

    I'd rather not do this in public. But since you've chosen this avenue (instead of PM), I'll respond. In short, I found the article to be lacking. I'd hoped for more insight, considering the background you gave me. Just one man's opinion.

    But I think it's a good thing, as you probably wouldn't not have been a good fit for us, since you do seem to have a short fuse and a flair for drama.

    I guess the goodbye was short-lived. You've posted three times today. :lol:

    Signed,
    Stuck In High School (graduated early!!)
     
  22. WharfRat

    WharfRat A True Fan

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    Heh.

    High school is a distant memory for me sonny boy...
    There is absolutely no reason for you to be up in arms over this. Imagine you were running a website and someone who "claims" to be of such high intellectual background, and of such high integrity insists on becoming a writer for you, then arrogantly pitches a fit when a few paltry weeks go by before he hears anything. During your illustrious educational endeavors, have you ever submitted a manuscript to a publisher? I'd be willing to bet that it could be months, or longer, before you hear from them. Why on earth would we, as the staff of a Dolphin fan website, give you such high priority based on your claims of grandeur?
    My advise... get over yourself.
    Stay or not... we'll be fine either way.

    That said... have a great day. :)
     
  23. Shouright

    Shouright Banned Hammered

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    The goodbye was only to this thread -- I'll still enjoy the parts of the site that are enjoyable.
     
  24. Shouright

    Shouright Banned Hammered

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    Since this is a sensible post I'll reply.

    I made no such insistence on becoming a columnist (check the original post), and the differences for me between this and the submission of a manuscript to a journal editor are that: 1) journal editors don't ask for your manuscript -- you submit it yourself in the hope that it's published, and 2) even though they haven't asked for your article, they show the professionalism to notify you immediately that they received your manuscript so you aren't stuck wondering if it was lost in the mail.

    Your "editor" 1) asked me to write an article for him, and then 2) gave me no such acknowledgment of receipt, even after I asked for just that directly in a PM and waited two weeks, while he used his time making threads and posts of his own for me to see. Don't you think that's a little rude and inconsiderate?

    Twist this around to make me the bad guy any way you want guys, but in the end it's lack of professionalism, plain and simple. I haven't had any prior problems with any of you or the site, and I don't harbor any hard feelings about this. It's really not that big a deal to me in the grand scheme of things.

    I apologize for the "high school" comment -- I obviously made that out of frustration. I say we just let this drop and have a good time on the rest of the site -- see you guys around. :)
     

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