Nick Saban: Dolphins had picked Brees over Culpepper

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  1. broccoli rob

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    In what could be viewed as Alabama coach Nick Saban’s first toe in the water toward no longer being the Alabama coach, Saban has disclosed for the first time publicly that he picked quarterback Drew Brees over quarterback Daunte Culpepper in 2006.
    We chose Drew Brees,” Saban told Dan Le Batard of 790 The Ticket in Miami. “I’ve never ever talked about this publicly. . . . That’s the guy we made the first offer to.”
    Saban said that Brees failed the physical after Brees and the Dolphins had agreed to terms. Brees had suffered a shoulder injury during the final game of the 2005 regular season.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/17/saban-says-dolphins-had-picked-brees-over-culpepper/


    Beating a dead horse at this point but I guess we were closer to getting Brees than we thought. Of course, Saban could be just trying to snake...i mean sneak his way back into the NFL.

    He is not going to be the Cleveland coach.

     
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    We all know our medical staff sucks Fail Brees pass Dumbtea? Shocker
     
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    Who cares, and why the hell would he leave paradise for Cleveland, a team that will never go past Baltimore or Pittsburgh, hell they won't ever make it past Cincinatti.
     
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    This has "Saban trying to clear his name for an NFL job" all over it.
     
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    i hope he goes to clevland so he can get his *** kicked week in and week out
     
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    We all know the story, it was our medical team that said his arm was done but 3 torn ligaments apparently had more use than his Arm did.

    Our organization as a whole is pathetic. From TOP (Ross) to bottom.
     
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    He can go quit on another franchise.
     
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    Hes won everything he can in CFB, time to give the bigboy league another shot.
     
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    **** I hate that little worm.
     
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    I hope he comes back and we can drill his ****ing team.
     
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    Or the illusion of it to get a bigger deal from Alabama.
     
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    If Nick wants more money from Bama,all he has to do is ask.
    Possible 3 titles in six years....gets you that kinda pull....I promise you
    the BOT would go 8 plus mill a year...if money is the only object.
    At 9 mill a year,thats a bargain considering what Alabama football has
    pulled in since Saban has been here.
    Money isn't Nick's deal....Legacy is.
     
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    Ploy or not the franchise would have been so much better had the Sabanator gotten his way.
     
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    No ****. It was widely known, and reported at the time that the medical staff failed Brees.

    I don't blame Saban for that.
     
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    He shouldnt go to Cleveland. Saban dosent have enough time to turn that franchise around. He needs to start focusing on a run at the presidency in 2016.
     
  16. Namor

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    Doesn't it bother you guys,that six years later,we talk about Nick Saban on this board more than Marino or Shula.
    Kind of says alot about the state of our Dolphins, the past decade.
     
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    Maybe the Saints had a bounty on our medical staff had they cleared Brees?
     
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    I don't really talk about Saban all that much, in fact hardly at all since it all happened. But you can't blame people for talking about him since he is actually relevant to things happening in football now, and Marino and Shula aren't. There's only so much wasn't yesterday great that we can have.
     
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    You know what it is Namor. Deep down they know that had the franchise followed Saban's lead instead of dicking him around, we wouldve had success here. He was the one guy who knew what he was doing. So the fans hate him for leaving. They all know we couldve won with Saban. Brees and Saban wouldve brought us championships. JT owes a ton of his success to Saban's defensive mind.

    They are just misplacing their hate. The fans should hate Wayne Huizenga, not Saban. Mr. H was the moron who wouldnt give total control to the man who knew what he was doing. Instead, 2 years later he gives complete control to the totally clueless Bill Parcells and even gives him a contract that allows him to leave whenever he wishes, job done or not.

    Mr. H knew he goofed by not letting Saban do his thing. So then he tried to overcompensate with that deal he gave Parcells. Problem is he then turned it over to a guy who isnt even close to Saban's level.

    I know if Saban wouldve had 1st pick in 2008, he wouldve drafted Matty Ice. Thing is, had Saban stayed here, there is no way in hell we go 1-15 in 2007.
     
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    Also, they are going to hate Saban even more if he does go to Cleveland. There, the owner will be smart enough to just turn the whole thing over to Saban. He will build that terrible franchise into a consistant winner. Within a few years they will dominate the AFC North. We may never get to a SB again. Between Andrew Luck in Indy and Nick Saban running the show in Cleveland, how could we?
     
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    LOL if you really believe that.

    You really think that Nick Saban can't get another NFL job without justifying why one of the worst franchises over the past 10 years missed on a QB?

    The Miami Dolphins haven't done much of anything right since drafting Dan Marino. I'm sure other franchises in the know certainly blame Nick Saban for the Dolphins past six or so seasons.

    Some of you are scorned ex-girlfriends who will NEVER let it go.
     
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    Why are you so sure, Saban wasn't good in the NFL the first time because you can't simply recruit the players you want. You have to be better at judging the talent and working the system in place for acquiring talent better than most of the people in the NFL, who can also be pretty smart themselves. You can't use your name and school prestige and recruit 20 top recruits a year to have the best ones emerge as starters for your team, you have one first round pick and some other draft picks to bring in talent in a predetermined order that may not give you a chance at all at who you want, and you have limited FA and cap dollars to bring in star players. If you make a bad judgement on a top recruit, one of the other top recruits will be there to replace him, or you can just bring in another recruit next year. You mess up a big decision, such as the starting QB position or a 2nd overall pick, and it can handicap your team for years.

    In the end, I will always root against Saban, but I'll always feel like I got the last laugh in that a guy who pretty much wrote books about how awesome he was came to the NFL and ended up running away like a little girl because he couldn't handle it.
     
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    Well if he picked Brees over Culpepper then I'd say he made the right call.

    Unfortunately, head coaches in the NFL don't get the kind of pull that they get in the college ranks.

    And people really need to stop comparing the NFL and CFB. Two totally different games here.
     
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    Nick saban news does anyone really care? He is staying in college where he belongs. If he comes to the NFL he will be average for a couple of years and then drop out back to college
     
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    Lmfao, Saban in the White House? I'll be voting for the other guy. [​IMG] Kidding aside, I could see Saban coming back to the NFL. He's accomplished pretty much everything you can accomplish in college football. I think it may eat at him that he flopped in the NFL as a head coach. He also knows that if he gets- of all teams- the ****ing Cleveland Browns to be a consistently competitive franchise, he'd be a bigger god in Cleveland than he already is in Tuscaloosa. Just food for thought. I doubt he comes back in the end, but I certainly won't be shocked if it happens.
     
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    He sure as hell picked an interesting time to talk about it publicly for the first time in years. Right as his name is being linked to possible NFL jobs... LOL if you believe Saban doesn't have some kind of ulterior motive in mind. He always does.
     
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    but he fails to mention how he decided that a part time SEC RB coupled with a journeyman QB best known for banging his head against concrete walls were better options than drafting a QB who fell in his lap who turned out to be a SB and league MVP and arguably the best in the league. Go figure :idk:
     
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    This isn't the first time he has spoke about it.

    But in all fairness, the guy has been incredibly busy signing top recruiting class after top recruiting class, beating the dog **** out of Auburn, and in his spare time, winning national championships.

    National championship game is in Miami, he's probably already in town ready to win another national title game against those Catholic frauds.
     
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    Just another in a long list of crap decisions by this franchise over the past 15 years.
     
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    THIS^^^ :lol2:sounds just fine to me
     
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    **** Saban, sack of ****.
     
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    man i cant tell who the bama fans are...
    i dont care how good of a coach he is, the man has zero integrity.
     
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    Did you listen to this interview?

    We land Brees and we would have won MULTIPLE Chips
     
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    Isn't this pretty much what happened? Both guys were in bad shape, but they said when it came down to it they had more faith in Dante's legs than Breeze's arms. Bad call. This weasel needs to go away and I made sure not to listen to his rubbish.
     
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    I don't put any stock into anything Saban says.

    His account of the events are very different from Bree's account.
     
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    BeLetard surely isn't too gullible to realize that if the pipsqueak's lips are moving - what's coming out is more bull****.
     
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    Who cares about the quitter?

    Not this guy.
     
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    betcha Mrs Satan is readying her "… honey, this Cleveland is just not our kind of place…", speech.
     
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    Good defensive mind, horrible evaluator of Professional talent.

    And you are forgetting what Brees said in his book, that when Brees asked Saban if Nick believed HE could come back, Saban dodged the question.

    Brees has so reason to lieabout that, Saban has every reason to, because he is a horrible person.
     
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    You just don't quit.

    [​IMG]
     
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    This again? The topic came up, and posters were serious about it, when Saban coached the Dolphins.

    He'd be a disaster as a national candidate. Do you realize what it takes to run for president? Every word and mannerism is scrutinized for more than a year, with the opposing party desperate to rearrange anything it can. Meanwhile, Little Nicky Saban can't tolerate questioning from sports reporters in a major market. His eyes raged in how-dare-you fashion. It reached the point the local reporters had so little respect for him they wrote and said whatever they wanted, and Saban was on the verge of a breakdown. He belongs in a minor market like Tuscaloosa where the local press is so intimidated by the fans and athletic department they don't dare question any decision or report anything of substance.

    Saban was the worst human being who ever coached one of my favorite teams. I picked up on it long before he left, in fact I stopped posting here because anything I said would have had to be deleted, and/or my account banned. I don't care what he does or where he does it as long as I'm not subjected to it locally. Any self-respecting person would have to punch Nick Saban in the mouth if within range. I don't see how that could be denied, or even seriously debated. That's another obstacle to a political campaign. Little Nicky would be too busy picking himself up off the floor.

    He's a nice guy when he beats the Gators.
     
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    On an earth where Bill parcells roams even Nick Saban could not be the worst human being ever. Parcells has bailed on multiple teams , conspired behind Tony Dungy;s back when he was still coach of Bucs and took way five years of actual building of our franchise.
     
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    9-7
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    As compared to the multiple 7 and 9's we've had.......good one, rook.
     
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    That's an easy one. Him and Linehan were in love with Alex Smith. During the lead up to the draft, Smith even mentioned how Saban and Linehan were always calling him, during the combine they spent 2 hours just breaking down film together, and they also took Smith out for dinner during the combine and talked more football. Saban wanted Smith.

    Also WV, I thought Wayne did give Saban full control. Nick hired Randy Mueller to be the GM. I could be wrong.

    At the time Saban left, I was mad at him, but I was a kid. I really don't care anymore. It was even said back then, his family did not like Miami. Even back then, it was reported that Wayne Huizenga gave Saban his blessing to leave. And even back then in my resentment towards him for leaving, he at least finished up the season. He didn't pull a Bobby Patrino and leave in the middle of the night only leaving letters to his players.

    At the same time, as great of a coach as Saban is in college, and as much as he deserves another shot in the NFL, let's not act like he got run out. He made some poor roster decisions with or without the Brees fiasco. His 2 drafts weren't really impressive and I think only 3 of his free agent signings lasted more than 2 years (Vonnie Holliday, Andre Goodman, and Renaldo Hill). He also hated how the media took jabs at him. Those are facts. Now he very easily could've learnt what better to do while in charge of a pro program (see Pete Carroll). But to the Saban supporters his short time here was not all on the fins, but to the Saban haters he didn't just ditch us. Remember, we interviewed Mike Tomlin to be head coach and he had the best interview of anybody but Huizenga and Mueller were convinced we needed an offensive coach so they hired Cam Cameron.
     
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    the guy will never come back to the NFL..... the guy is an egomaniac that would rather be on top of the CFB hill then be a middle of the road big boy coach. He loves the fact that he can control these young kids and they do whatever he wants. He cant lead MEN instead he tries to dictate the weaker younger minds that wont question him. He is a POS
     
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    Here's my conspiracy theory...

    I think Saban is trying to target me personally by setting up a move to be Cleveland's HC.
    Miami is my #1 team and Cleveland is my #2 team.
    No bandwagons here...it's been rough for me for many seasons!
    So, now Saban wants to get in there and destroy Cleveland, too!
    Not that they need any help, but he wants to make sure I suffer even more!

    I can't stand that guy!
     
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    Sir, are you calling Alabama paradise? If so, you are greatly mistaken. Have you even driven through that place?

    Perhaps you are talking about job security while making $5 million dollars a year?
     
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    Everybody runs away from the Dolphins organization or haven't you noticed? It didn't even take Marino long to see it for what it really was.

    Another difference between college and the NFL that you failed to mention is that you can't just go out and sign some guy off the street during the season in college if your depth is inadequate, or swing a trade. If you don't have that player or that depth already on the roster through your recruiting, there's nothing you can do about it until next year. That's why a team like Maryland had a linebacker playing QB for 'em this year after they lost 4 QB's to injury.

    Saban didn't like the fact that there was always some bean counter peering over his shoulder in the NFL urging him to cut guys because of the salary cap situation, that had nothing to do with football. There's just as many NFL coaches that fail making the transition to college as there are college coaches failing to make the transition to the NFL. A lot of the best coaches the NFL has ever seen required more than one opportunity.

    I wouldn't bet on having the last laugh just yet. Hell, you know he's laughing at Miami for hiring an NFL coach who got fired from college to run their offense like Mike Sherman.

    As an Alabama guy, I'd support him to no end if he decided to leave and go to the NFL if that's what he wanted to do. It's obvious that he's far too superior in his organizational, motivational, coaching skills, and attention to detail not to get another chance to achieve success in the NFL. If he's bored with the challenge of college football, and that stint with the Dolphins really bothers him that bad..... then he should go.

    Not for the money, but because he knows he can win in the NFL with the right situation.
     
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    Not to mention Parcells advising supposed division "rivals" on which coaches to hire.

    I'd hope all the high class, high moral, non-judgemental, full of integrity folks down in south Florida who never make mistakes are hospitable to him when he comes down for a visit to win another national title in a few weeks.

    After all, the one's who are the most heartbroken and still hold a grudge are the one's who put all their faith in him and defended him like family to begin with just like they do every coach the Dolphins hire.
     

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