Strangeworld
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The odds of Ireland Drafting a better player than Vonte with this pick are not good. That alone makes this a dumb move.
So I guess Jeff Ireland lied to Vontae Davis at the conclusion of their meeting in Ireland's office, the segment shown on Hard Knocks:
"What did you get for me?'
"A couple of picks."
Vontae got three picks. You would think that could have been the trigger toward the bonus pick. Matches his career average. Anything along those lines. I'd try to include any number of variables to secure the extra pick, meeting the bar in one category, instead of doing it sloppy toward mere playing time. Granted, we don't know exactly how it was worded but Ireland doesn't strike me as overly clever or resourceful. He could have used the Colts' draft position on the 2nd round pick to trigger the 6th rounder. They probably wouldn't have foreseen something in the 20s as overly likely.
Bottom line, we already got screwed based on how well the Colts fared. Greyboy posted the breakdown of top 40 picks making the Pro Bowl compared to lower second round. Quite a gap. And now we don't even get the extra pick. Retreat to those threads after the trade and I guarantee the supporters of the trade were touting the likelihood of a high second round pick, and an additional pick. Now those aspects are gone but they still have to pretend it as a master stroke.
We should have traded for their logo. A dolphin could kind of fit in there, lounging inside the U, like on a cruise ship near the pool.
Not to mention the obvious - He's now a free agent. A free agent who just picked up 2 garbage INTs with 1 admittedly great INT. Is that someone you really want to give a long term agreement to, especially when he's, as you pointed out for us, averaging about 3 INTs a season with a multitude of TD's given up?
The reason Ireland isn't getting the extra 6th is because with the exception of a game or two, Vonate pretty much sucked with the Colts this season.So let me get this straight. Irelands strikes out on the 6th round pick and instead of holding him accountable we than shift the blame to vontae?? lol, never ceases to amaze me. Vontaes never been in the playoffs before, im expecting him to have a big game and show his real potential. He has a motivator overthere in indy, pagano. Never had it in miami and never got the chance under philbin. its coming.
The reason Ireland isn't getting the extra 6th is because with the exception of a game or two, Vonate pretty much sucked with the Colts this season.
Wasn't the condition of getting the pick based on playing time? Ireland gets credit for trading "an injury plagued" player and reading the tea leaves that Vontea would once again miss a large part of the season so shouldn't he have had the wherewithal to NOT make playing time a prerequisite to getting the conditional pick?
So let me get this straight. Irelands strikes out on the 6th round pick and instead of holding him accountable we than shift the blame to vontae?? lol, never ceases to amaze me.
what ceases to amaze me, is how people blame Ireland for a players injury... now unless he goes out onto the feild ala "last boyscout" and shoots these guys in the knee, how is it exactly his fault? To me that's not bad choice making, it's bad luck!
Nobody can say if who got the better part of deal just yet, as we haven't used the pick we recieved from the colts...
What sad lives some of you must lead to knock yourselves out for things that haven't happened yet. sheesh!
Wasn't the condition of getting the pick based on playing time? Ireland gets credit for trading "an injury plagued" player and reading the tea leaves that Vontea would once again miss a large part of the season so shouldn't he have had the wherewithal to NOT make playing time a prerequisite to getting the conditional pick?
The reason Ireland isn't getting the extra 6th is because with the exception of a game or two, Vonate pretty much sucked with the Colts this season.
You really are dense aren't you?
did ever occure to you that maybe, JUST MAYBE, it was the Colts who put that condition into the trade deal and not Ireland?
Awesome trade Ireland.....NOT
Ozzy rules!!
Man, defending Ireland all the time could be a bad "Omen"......lol
Ozzy rules!!
Does it occur to you that Ireland is allowed to say "no"?