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O.J. Simpson took wife beating to a all new level.
***Just Kidding**
 
miabrown23 said:
i agree but hes not our best player unless ur talking abut at his position

I agree with you, he's NOT even close to being our best player. The only reason AJ threw to him a millions times last season (BTW, he drop about half of those) is because was running for his life and he didn't have the time to look downfield.
Every team has a player that is a ?? mark. Teams take chances on guys because they need to win.
 
DolphinDevil28 said:
Go ahead. Name one. ...and don't even say Abram Elam, because he ain't making the team. That would be grasping for straws, which is what you always do anyway.

David Boston
Eddie Moore
Channing Crowder
Ricky Williams
Abram Elam
Bobby Meeks
Randy McMichael
Quentin Williams


Theres probably more. And I don't care if they are going to make the team, YOUR staff brings these guys in.

And look back into the past:

Wide Receiver - Mark Duper (1989 Accused of Rape, charges eventually dropped, 1994 charged with buying cocaine with intent to sell)
Wide Receiver - Mark Clayton (1993 Dead Beat Dad)
Tight End - Eric Green (1992 Substance Abuse)
Quarterback - Brian Griese (2001 DUI)
Running Back- Eugene "Mercury" Morris (1982 cocaine trafficking, got 20 years)
Right Tackle - Leon Searcy (2001, spousal abuse, battery)

Corner - Patrick Surtain (2000 DUI)
Corner - Fulton Walker (1989 second degree sexual assault, 2002 convicted of possession)
Left End - Demetrius Underwood (2003 robbed man in wheelchair - found incompetent to stand trial)
Defensive Tackle - Jermaine Haley (2003 DUI)
Defensive Tackle - Shane Burton (2nd DUI)
Right End - Jim Dunaway (2002, charged with murdering ex-wife, lost civil suit when children sued him for wrongful death)
Linebacker - Derrick Rodgers (1998 DUI; 2002 battery, aggravated battery, resisting arrest with violence)
Linebacker - Aubrey Beavers (2003, felony marijuana possession)
Free Safety - Gene Atkins (1989 arson, 2nd degree attempted murder, conspiracy to commit battery)


[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]WR Oronde Gadsden (2004 DUI)
WR Charles Jordon (car theft, felony theft, reckless driving, charged with murder)
WR - Tony Martin (1999 drug money laundering)
WR - Lamar Thomas (battery on his fiancee, parole violation)
WR Mark Ingram (holding counterfeit currency, dead beat dad, car theft)
WR Robert Baker (1998 drug trafficking)
WR Lamar Thomas (battery on his fiancee, parole violation)
WR Dedric Ward (2001 accused of drugging and raping a woman, charges dropped)
RB - Sammy Smith (drug trafficking)
RB - Lawrence Phillips (1996 domestic assault, 2003 sexual assault)
RB - Cecil Collins (2001 sexual assault, breaking and entering, burglary, serving 15 years )
RB - Fulton Walker (1989 second degree sexual assault)
RB - Lamar Smith (2003 tried for vehicular assault and DUI)
RB - Stacey Spikes (1995 domestic abuse, assault)
RB - Jack Harper (2001 illegal alligator harvesting, identity theft)
QB - Jon Denton (1997 drug possession, ran prostitution ring in college)
CB - Ben Kelly (2003 DUI)
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Dolphelons is fitting.
 
Losman7 said:
David Boston
Eddie Moore
Channing Crowder
Ricky Williams
Abram Elam
Bobby Meeks
Randy McMichael
Quentin Williams


Theres probably more. And I don't care if they are going to make the team, YOUR staff brings these guys in.

And look back into the past:

Wide Receiver - Mark Duper (1989 Accused of Rape, charges eventually dropped, 1994 charged with buying cocaine with intent to sell)
Wide Receiver - Mark Clayton (1993 Dead Beat Dad)
Tight End - Eric Green (1992 Substance Abuse)
Quarterback - Brian Griese (2001 DUI)
Running Back- Eugene "Mercury" Morris (1982 cocaine trafficking, got 20 years)
Right Tackle - Leon Searcy (2001, spousal abuse, battery)

Corner - Patrick Surtain (2000 DUI)
Corner - Fulton Walker (1989 second degree sexual assault, 2002 convicted of possession)
Left End - Demetrius Underwood (2003 robbed man in wheelchair - found incompetent to stand trial)
Defensive Tackle - Jermaine Haley (2003 DUI)
Defensive Tackle - Shane Burton (2nd DUI)
Right End - Jim Dunaway (2002, charged with murdering ex-wife, lost civil suit when children sued him for wrongful death)
Linebacker - Derrick Rodgers (1998 DUI; 2002 battery, aggravated battery, resisting arrest with violence)
Linebacker - Aubrey Beavers (2003, felony marijuana possession)
Free Safety - Gene Atkins (1989 arson, 2nd degree attempted murder, conspiracy to commit battery)


[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]WR Oronde Gadsden (2004 DUI)
WR Charles Jordon (car theft, felony theft, reckless driving, charged with murder)
WR - Tony Martin (1999 drug money laundering)
WR - Lamar Thomas (battery on his fiancee, parole violation)
WR Mark Ingram (holding counterfeit currency, dead beat dad, car theft)
WR Robert Baker (1998 drug trafficking)
WR Lamar Thomas (battery on his fiancee, parole violation)
WR Dedric Ward (2001 accused of drugging and raping a woman, charges dropped)
RB - Sammy Smith (drug trafficking)
RB - Lawrence Phillips (1996 domestic assault, 2003 sexual assault)
RB - Cecil Collins (2001 sexual assault, breaking and entering, burglary, serving 15 years )
RB - Fulton Walker (1989 second degree sexual assault)
RB - Lamar Smith (2003 tried for vehicular assault and DUI)
RB - Stacey Spikes (1995 domestic abuse, assault)
RB - Jack Harper (2001 illegal alligator harvesting, identity theft)
QB - Jon Denton (1997 drug possession, ran prostitution ring in college)
CB - Ben Kelly (2003 DUI)
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Dolphelons is fitting.


Once again, like I said. Grasping for straws. You didn't even quote my whole post.

Bobby Meek? Quentin Williams isn't even on the team anymore.

How is Channing Crowder a thug??? I'm sure your record is spotless Losman. I'm sure you never got into any confrontation whatsoever in college.

Going back to players from the early 90's?

GRASPING FOR STRAWS.
 
DolphinDevil28 said:
Once again, like I said. Grasping for straws. You didn't even quote my whole post.

Bobby Meek? Quentin Williams isn't even on the team anymore.

How is Channing Crowder a thug??? I'm sure your record is spotless Losman. I'm sure you never got into any confrontation whatsoever in college.

Going back to players from the early 90's?

GRASPING FOR STRAWS.

Right. You asked for one I gave you lots.

Channing Crowder has been arrested how many times? Guess what, getting arrested is unacceptable. Its not "part of college" or anything, its breaking the law.

I think you're the one grasping.

Meeks and Williams...did Saban or did he not bring them in to possibly make the team?
 
Losman7 said:
Right. You asked for one I gave you lots.

Channing Crowder has been arrested how many times? Guess what, getting arrested is unacceptable. Its not "part of college" or anything, its breaking the law.

I think you're the one grasping.

Meeks and Williams...did Saban or did he not bring them in to possibly make the team?

I said give me examples of thugs, not players who may have an altercation and you get so giddy over it it seems like you swallowed a bottle of Cialis.
 
I'm sure a long list of Bill's w/ problems could be brought up,
say...O.J. Simpson,the master of female beat down,but it doesn't
solve anything.This is a incedent that needs to be taken care of
when all the facts are out.
 
Namor said:
I'm sure a long list of Bill's w/ problems could be brought up,
say...O.J. Simpson,the master of female beat down,but it doesn't
solve anything.This is a incedent that needs to be taken care of
when all the facts are out.

What are you talking about? Losman has all the facts. He knows everything.

He's in perfect position to judge everything and anything. :rolleyes:
 
Losman7 said:
Right. You asked for one I gave you lots.

Channing Crowder has been arrested how many times? Guess what, getting arrested is unacceptable. Its not "part of college" or anything, its breaking the law.

I think you're the one grasping.

Meeks and Williams...did Saban or did he not bring them in to possibly make the team?

There is a book out called "Pro's and Con's of the NFL". This was dicussed several months ago when people were talking trash about Ricky. Some people on here said that those players were ALL JJ's. Will we know that's not true, a lot were from the Shula days as well.
Teams do bring in players to be practice guys. Buffalo brought in Doug Flutie to be a training camp arm, but he made the team. Some players do suprise coaches (Flutie) and make the team. Every team is going to cut 30 or so players in the next 6 weeks, but there will be some suprises.
 
I didn't say every player on your team is bad... but would I be wrong if I said there have been an inordinate amount of dolphins on the police blotters in comparison to most of the other teams?
 
Losman7 said:
I didn't say every player on your team is bad... but would I be wrong if I said there have been an inordinate amount of dolphins on the police blotters in comparison to most of the other teams?

show proof of that.
 
Losman7 said:
I didn't say every player on your team is bad... but would I be wrong if I said there have been an inordinate amount of dolphins on the police blotters in comparison to most of the other teams?

Who besides Randy McMichael?

Like I said, Q. Williams is no longer on the team. Ricky has kicked the dope.

Crowder's incidents came in college, not when his name was on the dotted line of his Dolphins contract.

Who?
 
Losman7 said:
Good call. I mean, everyone knows the the Fins are a bunch of thugs, wife beaters, and pot heads. Might as well confirm it. Seriously, if the organization looks the other way, that really says alot about the class and reputation of the fins organization and saban as a leader.

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I dont think Miami is any better or worse than most other NFL teams when it comes to guys doing stupid stuff.....Here in Colorado, Bronco players have regularly gotten DUIs and guys like receiver Rod Smith have been charged with wife beating and spousal abuse.....these guys are no different from the rest of society but all the negative publicity gets focused on them because they are famous athletes....I use to work in law enforcement, and unfortunately even when nothing happens between a man and wife, they have to arrest the husband whenever a call to 9-1-1 is made regarding an incident of spousal abuse...whether it really happened or not...Patrick Roy, the former Avs goalie got arrested even though he never touched his wife....I think spousal abuse is wrong, but too many men get labled and arrested even when they have not done anything.
 
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