Off-season banter: Is Orlando Franklin worth a look?

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  1. DisturbedShifty

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    Maybe as a backup. He was in decline when he left Denver and I think we were interested then but the Chargers got the first visit and they overpaid him.
     
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    Would have been a great option 2 years ago over Dallas Thomas before Franklin signed with Denver. Today, no thanks.
     
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    He isnt an upgrade as a starter, and I like the depth we have there right now. He also isn't much better than what would be available later if there's an injury. So at this point, I'd say pass.
     
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    Haha me too. It's a bold statement that he seems to be making good on so far.
     
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    It's amazing how many players fall off a cliff after they get (over)paid. That's a definite phenomenon.

    I would have been interested but didn't realize his play fell off so badly.
     
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    I think center is more of a need than guard at this point.
     
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    I know most don't put stock into PFF ,but he was rated the 66th best guard.

    He would be a great depth pick up ,but I think we're set at guard.

    For the right price, he's definitely worth a look.

    He's a former Cane that already got paid nicely. We make sense for him.
     
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    I agree. I was worried about Stills until I heard him working harder.

    Parker will probably have a ridiculous year knowing he'll be paid the big bucks in a year or two.

    Franklin should come home and play back up RT-RG
     
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    Remember Franklin was drafted as a tackle, struggled there for a few seasons and then moved to guard. He had a few good years at guard in Denver which led to a big contract from the Chargers and things didn't work out. I recall when some fans wanted Miami to sign him during free agency some of us warned that you had to be careful because some of Franklin's success in Denver was due to the scheme and having Peyton Manning at qb.
     
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    I think he is one of many older OL that will become available as cuts start to happen. While I'm not sure Franklin specifically is the answer for us, I am definitely open to looking at who gets cut. I would be interested in a 1 year stopgap veteran if the right one comes along at the right price.

    Next year I expect to draft 1 more guard as well as possibly replacing RT and/or C depending on just how many games and how well Ju'Wuan James and Mike Pouncey play.
     
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    Is he better than the corpse of bushrod? If so then come on down
     
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    If that is the cake wouldn't that be a bigger reason for us to sign him? He was a success in Gase's scheme. Personally don't know anything about him, but if the scheme was the reason for his success it was Adam Gase's scheme.
     
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    Franklin blew chunks last season. I wouldn't want him. He's even worse than the hot garbage we currently have.
     
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    I would welcome it as any action would be welcome at this time but I don't think we are doing any "Bringing in" of anyone until we get to camp. This whole off season, no news, nothing happening thing is getting on my nerves... I want the show on the road already...
     
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    I think a big part of it was also Manning getting rid of the ball and making the Franklin look better too.
     
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    If Asiata and Larsen look like crap in camp, that's when you sign him.
     
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    You mean like Adam Gase's scheme???

    Adam will know the player and whether he's worth brining in or not.
     
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    The Adam Gase offense is different from when Manning was at the helm. With Manning and Gase the Broncos threw to ball as much as any team in the league and Manning excelled in getting rid of the ball quickly. In Miami the Gase offense threw the ball less than 31 teams
     
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    Bushrod played pretty decent last year, not great by any means, but certainly not bad either...pretty sure he was only lineman to play every game, and after Tunsil I would say he was our 2nd best OL overall last year...Pouncey missed too much time, Albert missed some time and wasn't great as was James...which is why Pouncey worries me, yeah he is great when he plays but when does he play??
     
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    Gase has experience with him from before, right? If he wants to come here as depth, sure. Hell, he may even push to start... but how far has his play fallen? Would he be an equivalent to Bushrod essentially at this point?? I wouldnt mind another body that could help as a G/T also.... Bushrod could kick out to LT in a pinch
     
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    It could just be a case of the Chargers saying "we didn't draft Lamp and Feeney to put either on the bench and Franklin makes too much for a backup." It may have been a combination of play and salary as opposed to pure performance that led to his release. I might go back and rewatch the Miami San Diego game.
     
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    The lack of attempts was mainly because we failed to get first downs and sustain drives not because we got away from the passing game. Gase certainly did a very good job of balancing out the run/pass ration attack but we were 31st in first downs which limited the amount of passing attempts.
     
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    Also, the fact the defense couldn't get off the field and was 30th against the run allowing the opposing team to run clock and shorten the game.
     
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    Damn talk about a steep drop off, regardless of what you think of PFF
     
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    We were #19 in rushing attempts and 31st in pass attempts, so the balance for sure shifted. Both of those number take a huge hit due to the offense having the fewest snaps of any NFL team. It is for sure a far cry from Denver's play calling, but the scheme is still the same.
     
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    Drew Rosenhaus, who represents Franklin, was on with Joe Rose this morning. Drew contacted the Dolphins because Franklin is very interested in the Dolphins. The assistant OL line coach, Chris Kuper, was Franklin's teammate in Denver. Of course, Gase knows him as well.

    Drew was candid. Franklin is more interested in Miami than the Dolphins are in him at this point.
     
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    Thanks for posting this... I mean what could it hurt to add some veteran depth on the cheap?
     
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    Didn't he go to Miami?
     
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    Well how bad did Franklin play last year anyone know.
     
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    Yes, he was a Hurricane. I am all for him becoming Dolphin if he is willing to take a prove it contract. He is huge, has freaky "Debo" eyes, is expierienced in Gase's offense, and is another guy who has versatility as he has played T and G. I'm very nervous about our depth at T.

    That being said I trust Gase on this. He coached the guy before so if he has no interest then the guy probably doesn't have the mentality Gase is trying to build on this team.
     
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    Look a few posts up... miamiron posted a graph. Apparently his play took a nose dive after denver
     
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    If he's as interested as it sounds, he should swallow his pride and play for the vet minimum.

    If there was a team in need of a starting guard, it's us.

    We also need a back up for James. Who comes in if he gets hurt?

    Sam Young? God no!!
     
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    I thought Sam Young did a decent job in 2016. I'm not saying he's a Pro Bowler, but he was a decent reserve.
     
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    He did a decent job for sure. Can't argue that

    I believe Franklin is an upgrade but who knows lol

    I think Franklin's versatility makes him more valuable. I'd feel more comfortable if James were to get hurt.

    If Tunsil gets hurt, we're doomed. This is where I believe Franklin being able to play RT comes into play.

    James would have to slide to LT while we insert Franklin at RT.

    The drop off would be obvious but not as bad as it could be.

    Having said that, if he were smart he'd look at how we operate and work his A$$ off for a new contract if given the chance. He does know we have 2 guard spots up for grabs lol

    He'd be able to come home, compete for a starting spot, and probably have a great chance to win it.

    It would only be on our terms and surely wouldn't hurt.

    Competition will always bring the best out of anyone that is a true competitor.
     
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    I think Bushrod would move to LT if Tunsil went down for a significant amount of time.
     

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