*** official day one nfl draft discussion/"game" thread ***

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  1. fakespike

    fakespike Starter

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    Foster might have had the most talent but that freakin NFL drug programs a biatch and will be nice to not have to worry about that. NE probably drafts him and he becomes an All Pro but I'm glad I won't have to cringe every time right before I open up Rotoworld
     
  2. phinfan40353

    phinfan40353 Scout Team

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    What was our rush defense statistics last year? Yea, let's keep attacking the edge. It's been working. No one will figure out our Achilles's Heel.

    An inside backer with elite skills starring us in the face and we get cute again. Yea sure, we can find linebacker and DT help later in the draft or for cheap in FA.

    How long since Zach Thomas was here?


    There's a recognition problem with our organization and LBs.


    And Gawd forbid we solidify the left side of the line for the next decade.


    I'm beginning to think we are not too much different from the Jets when it comes to defying all sensible logic on draft day and simply take BPA that falls in your lap.


    No time for the "DE's are more valuable than OG or LB" arguments. Tell me that when the rush yards start to pile up game after game. Or we get ripped game after game by seam TE's exploiting our inability to cover athletic TE's up the middle or in space.

    This is common sense. Take the gifts you are given.

    MLB

    Would someone please email the full defensive positional chart to our FO? Apparently our copy doesn't have the middle of the field on it.
     
  3. PlexGod

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    I'm sorry but I hate this pick... first foster is there at a position of need bigger then DE. Second we need a player that has to play every down not a situational pass rusher playing 12-15 snaps a game. Hope he proves me wrong but not happy at all. Would have been happier with Lamp or Mckinley
     
  4. FanMarino

    FanMarino HOF Pass Master

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    Ask Tanny how he feels with that pick? Lamp would have been an instant starter. Charles Harris a starter or a student next season behind Wake learning? I'm an instant fix person myself when it comes to 1st round picks. Can anybody with knowledge of Harris tell me he's a starter on day one?
     
  5. Danny

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    mando was right. They wanted Barnett or Harris and were not about to miss on both

    Ozzy rules!!
     
  6. jimlerario

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    Where did you hear that?
     
  7. bradmcnutt13

    bradmcnutt13 A True Fan

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    Will Harris be a starter this year?
     
  8. Trifecta Nation

    Trifecta Nation Rookie

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    Chris Grier said we had two offers to move down, but liked Harris enough to submit the card - we didn't want to lose him.
     
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    Stop having a good draft Cleveland.
     
  10. bigchub22

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    Foster and Lamp and we go Harris? Blah
     
  11. theOutback

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    OK.....but what were the offers?
     
  12. Benched

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    Absolute steal for Cleveland
     
  13. FanMarino

    FanMarino HOF Pass Master

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    Hardly Wow when you don't know what they were giving and what Phins would settle for. Anyway...zero reaction to that so let's say WOW was NAAH! Move on as it's irrelevant.
     
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    JJM_7 A True Fan

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    Seattle will probably pick Lamp.
     
  15. jlfin

    jlfin old pro

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    Hopefully they can address MLB in 2nd rd. .?McMillan
     
  16. KingDolphin57

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    Not an awful pick. Pretty versatile DE. Hope we take advantage of it. Welcome to the Dolphins Harris.
     
  17. Danny

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    Guys, get over Foster. Everyone passed on him for a reason. Two bad shoulders. He'll be there tomorrow because noone is taking him tonight. He's been red flag for more than one reason. Will Harris be a starter day one? Probably not but he will play a lot. Btw, what's the name of that great pass rusher that is not very good VS the run? You know the one everyone here loves? Oh yeah, WAKE!!

    Ozzy rules!!
     
  18. Benched

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    Atlanta wants Foster
     
  19. Aceofclubs

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    I would have LOVED to see Foster in aqua, but that medical recheck really must have been bad. I actually hope that we don't trade up at all in this draft regardless of what's going on, we need all of the very limited picks that we still have.
     
  20. Albert Romano

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    Deep draft, would have traded out most likely.
     
  21. Dogbone34

    Dogbone34 cowboy surfer

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    I take the trade
     
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    Deep draft, would have traded out most likely.
     
  23. jlfin

    jlfin old pro

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    He appears similar to Wake from 7 yrs ago.
    I suspect he will start with Wake as a situational pass rusher.
     
  24. Albert Romano

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    Field Yates @FieldYates
    Atlanta just traded pick 31 and 2017 third and seventh round picks to Seattle for pick 26.

    Thats what Seattle just got so yup I would gave traded out.
     
  25. Kingdom Come

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    Cut Dion Jordan,paid a mediocre Branch 10 mil a year, passed on a trade down, then went ahead and spent the 1st round pick on another mediocre DE............Think every curse word in existence, that's what I think of this FO right now.
     
  26. DuderinoN703

    DuderinoN703 We? What the **** we? Finheaven VIP Donator

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    So when Zach Thomas was drafted you knew he'd have the career he ended up having?
     
  27. Danny

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    Hoping now for a guard/cenetr tomorrow and a corner or LB

    Ozzy rules!!
     
  28. JEDIJ007

    JEDIJ007 It's a trap! Finheaven VIP

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    Bigfoot was a Harris house.


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  29. Show Me Your TDs

    Show Me Your TDs My head's on Fire!

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    I would have liked to trade down however if we targeted two players and only one was still there can you blame them for not risking it?
     
  30. gregorygrant83

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    Depends on your philospy. Do you want the player that has the bigger impact day one or do you want the player that's you think is going to be the better player overall during course of their 4 or 5 year rookie deal? Of course you would like to say their entire careers, but so few players play their entire career with one team. It's best to jsut look at the first five years and then go forward from there.

    I know a lot of people were talking about Lamp, but remember Gase said during free agency that the staff felt you didn't have to go top tier at that position to build a winning unit. You had to figure the same philosophy applied to the draft. If you don't need grade A talent in free agency at a position why would you then turn around and burn a first round pick on the same position? It would seem to be a contridiction.

    I might have traded the pick if the right offer was on the table. Atlanta's 1st (31) and 3rd would have been interesting, but seeing the pick is at the end of the 3rd I might have tried to get another offer.
     
  31. Superself

    Superself If you want to, we can supply you.

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    Funny how fans here crying buckets of tears over not selecting Foster as he continues to drop off the planet.
    Smh do you think for a moment that you know as much as 26 NFL front offices??


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  32. rickd13

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    You guys complaining that defensive end is not a need are clueless. There is only one pure pass rusher on this roster (Wake) and he is 35 years old. If he gets hurt, Miami's whole pass rush is gone. Criticizing the player (Harris) is fair, but criticizing Miami for taking a pass rusher is just plain ignorant.
     
  33. jlfin

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    McKinley is a nut. Glad we passed on him and got Harris
     
  34. MiamiMuss

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    Big mistake not taking McKinney or Watts imo
     
  35. rymflaherty

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    Why are people hung up on if he "starts"?
    Who cares...If he's in there creating havoc on 3rd downs and in the 4th quarter that's what matters...that's what this team needs.
    This defense couldn't stop anybody when it mattered. They had one of the worst adjusted pass rushes in the league.
    This league isn't that difficult - it's about making your QB comfortable while making the opponents QB as uncomfortable as possible.
    Hopefully Harris aids in that.

    There appears to be good value/depth in the secondary, so hopefully that is still the case when they pick in round 2...and/or I'm happy that they seem to finally have a shared vision and plan under Gase and looking to find the best available players that fit the systems.
     
  36. Robonious

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    He probably couldn't tell you what round Thomas was drafted in without looking it up.
     
  37. Sirspud

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    Good point bro. While I definitely want an LB more than a DE right now I don't teams necessarily need to spend a first rounder to get an effective LB. It would have felt nice to see the team address LB though since we were practically starting UDFA's two years ago and still clearly need another starter..
     
  38. Phinatic8u

    Phinatic8u Adam ****ing Gase

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    Anyone got a Harris draft breakdown.
     
  39. PeterNorth

    PeterNorth Seasoned Veteran Hammered

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    Some of you are just insufferable. Jesus Christ.
     
  40. DolfanDuBbZ~

    DolfanDuBbZ~ Avoid the 'Noid

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    I am not a big fan of DEs from Mizzou.

    But at this spot...give me a oline men. Period. You want to dictate games? You have to protect the QB. This isn't new from me. Inside out. And if we want a efficient offense, you get the pieces to do it.

    Meh. It is what it is.
     

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