Official Miami Heat "Warmup" Thread (Offseason)

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  1. Section126

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    Well...discuss our Heat as we re-tool for another run at a title.

    Need To re-sign (In order of importance):

    James Posey
    Jason Kapono
    Eddie Jones

    Big Names on Block and available:

    Jason Kidd
    Vince Carter
    Mike Bibby
    Gerald Wallace
    Stephon Marbury
    Shawn Marion
    Ron Artest
    Corey Maggette
    Jerry Stackhouse
    Chauncey Billups

    Draft Day most wanted:

    Acie Law


    If somebody has the FA list...post it.
     
  2. Retnuhrace

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  3. Skeet84

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    On the re-sign list you can add Eddie Jones to that
     
  4. Vertical Limit

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    I would keep Posey [and have him as our STARTER], trade Walker somewhere or just get rid of him, and try to land Chauncey Billups and call it a successful offseason.

    I'm not sure if Riley is going to wait for the rookie pg to develop, he wants to win now. Bring Chauncey Billups to Miami!
     
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    I doubt we could get rid of Walker and Williams contract. We are pretty much stuck with them I think. Chauncey is not gunna leave the Pistons and if he does I don't think we can afford him. I would really like to see us go get Jason Kidd tho (But that won't probably won't happen)
     
  6. King Felix

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    steve blake might be an option for the heat.....
     
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    Didn't we hear Blakes name last season, possibly to the Heat?
     
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    Please no!!!
     
  9. Psycho_Sid

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    Why? He's a very solid backup point guard. He's a good distributor.
     
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    I just don't think he is the answer. He may be, But I would like to take a look at someone else
     
  11. Section126

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    The word around the camp fire is that the Ron Artest rumors are very true...and that SAC will take peanuts for him....

    Riley loves him.
     
  12. Alex44

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    I love Artest.

    The guy flat out plays defense. Sure he is crazy....but he is intense and knows how to play the game. He isn't a great offensive player but he can get the job done on that end. As long as he doesn't completely go crazy....I'd love him here.
     
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    just thought I'd say this, don't be shocked if Chauncey lands in Milwaukee.
     
  14. Enforcerfin33

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    be careful with this one....he is a team killer.
     
  15. Skeet84

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    He has to get paid so nothing will really shock me.
     
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    I agree!! He is a great player, But sometimes just acts stupid!
     
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    Shaq and Riley will keep him in line!
     
  18. Psycho_Sid

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    I'm afraid no one will be able to keep Artest in line. I remember reports last year on him complaining about not being involved in the offense enough. It sounded like he wanted to be the franchise player who gets all the plays run though him.
     
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    I'm just thinking about our salary cap situation and who is out there. Aside from some big trade for Bibby or (sign and) trade for Billups there aren't many options out there. I definitely don't want Payton to be the backup anymore.
     
  20. Fresh

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    If Acie Law and Rodney Stuckey are gone by #20, I'm warming up to........


    Michael Redd v2:


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    man I dont want Williams as a starter anymore!
     
  22. Vertical Limit

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    Me either. I really don't want a PG that could only start half the games each season, and can not stay healthy.
     
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    Agreed.
     
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    we rly need to focus on PG exclusively...every other position is good and we should look to move j-will and walker
     
  25. Alex44

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    :sidelol:

    I thought his name was actually Almond Joy until I saw the tiny writing in the corner of the page.
     
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    As for Artest...he is a very underrated offensive player.

    he is a GREAT post player with an above average jumper and 3 point range. he is a spectacular rebounder and as tenacious as they come on the offensive glass.


    BTW guys...The Heat has contacted Posey about an extension.....he has expressed his interest about returning but wants to see what is out there. So it looks good in that front.

    More campfire news is that Kapono will be approached by the Spurs and Clippers. Which makes me think that they think his market is around 5 mil per. Which is good for us.
     
  27. Skeet84

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    Yeah I can understand your reasoning there. Lets see what happens in the draft.
     
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    Easier said than done. Who ever would take those contracts are crazy!
     
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    I hope Posey does get the extension with the Heat.
     
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    I hope so too.
     
  31. Fresh

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    Bring back Posey, forget Kapono. He's not worth going into the tax for.

    Btw, Pat Riley suuuuuuure has a "love jones" for Thaddeus Young. He had a workout with the Heat the other day, and my brother saw them at dinner the same night.

    I know that PG is a pressing need, but we cannot reach for one at #20. I'm having cold feet about Javaris Crittenton the more I read about him and how raw he is. Acie Law would be a sure pick, and I feel the same about Rodney Stuckey, too. However, if those two are gone, I don't know.. IMO, if the top 4 PG's are gone, it means that one of those G/F's will fall into our laps. Whether it's Thaddeus Young or Derrick Byars.. either would be a fantastic selection at #20. I believe that Zabian Dowdell will be sitting there at #39, if worst meets worst for us at #20 with the PG's. Another guy that I am simply beyond intrigued with is fellow ganja smoker, Sean Williams. He's a defensive beast, and he'd fit right in the mold of what Alonzo Mourning does for us.

    I actually like Gabe Pruitt, but I'm not sure he's a Pat Riley PG. Think Devin Harris with range in his shot, and you basically have Pruitt. You'd probably have to take away the penetration since Harris is far better at that, yet the crybaby ****, too.

    Scouts are falling in love with Petteri Koponen of Finland, but thankfully, like myself, Riles tends to shy away from International players.
     
  32. Skeet84

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    Crittenton is going to the Hawks at 11! Yes its a reach but its the Hawks not me drafting. Actually the rumor is that Miami is very likely to trade the 20th pick. For what I have no idea
     
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    In my latest mock, I have him going #11 as well, and I hope it pans out. Actually, what I'd like to see is Mike Conley slip all the way down to #11, so that Crittenton goes #14/15, and Rodney Stuckey goes to Washington or L.A. if they opt for a guard, and Acie Law free falls. Many scouts believe that Stuckey is Detroit's guy, but they also like a few of those swingmen/forwards, so I'd be careful there.. Dumars loves Nick Young, as a matter of Chad Ford's mouth. I didn't really think Washington would be a threat to take a guard, but they are very interested in pairing Stuckey up with Arenas, and having him as an insurance policy if Arenas leaves when he opts out next summer.

    If Conley makes it to #11, then Law or Stuckey should fall.
     
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    There is no way that Conley drops that far. No way at all! Most Heat fans are just hoping for Acie Law. Arenas is probably gone when he gets the chance.
     
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    No way at all? That is a ridiculous statement. This is the NBA Draft, it's a crapshoot. Look at Marcus Williams dropping into the 20's last year. If Minnesota gets Boston's pick, then Conley is a top 10 lock. Otherwise, there's a decent chance he can fall to #11. I'm not saying it will happen, but there's a decent chance. I guess you haven't looked at the overall board yet, and not just PG's. There are a ton of players that MOST scouts have rated over Conley.
     
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    King how can you say Posey is worth bringing back? Honestly what has he really done?
     
  37. Fresh

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    What has James Posey done? Come on. James Posey does all the little things necessary to win. Did you watch the Finals last year? That's the problem.. people look at Posey's stats and not how he actually plays. If only they'd do the same with Bruce Bowen. All that diving into the stands and onto the scorer's table for loose balls, the great defense he displays, the energy, etc. that's what makes him a valuable asset to this team. Not to mention he's a great 3-point shooter. Nothing spectacular, but simply a solid basketball player and excellent role player.

    James Posey does 2x more for this team than Jason Kapono.

    Watching Jason Kapono try and stay in front of his man gives me nightmares.
     
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    There is no chance that Conley will fall to 11. Absolutely no chance.
     
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    I agree with him on Posey except for saying Posey is a great three point shooter. Posey is above average, But not great like Kapono. However Posey does alot of little things and he plays great Defense.
     
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    Posey is a great three point shooter, especially in the sense that he performs in the clutch. He's knocked down daggers many times for us in the playoffs. He is a great three point shooter.

    What's not great about knocking down 214 three's for Miami in 138 total regular season games at a high percentage? (yes, 35+ is good for three point shooting). The guy went 35/83 in the playoffs for us last year. He is a great three point shooter, he just doesn't shoot them excessively. What I've noticed about Posey is that he's very patient - he tries only to shoot when he's open.

    Sure, that doesn't compare with Kapono, but who in 2006-2007 did? No one. And, he's not the best three point shooter in the league. Stats are stats.

    Bottom line: Jason Kapono does one thing for Miami. James Posey does a handful.
     

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