Discussion in 'Other Sports' started by Kdawg954, Dec 12, 2013.
Holy crap. I mean, i liked our chances against brazil, but damn. It all came together today
Just awful and embarassing. Felt like I was watching the Dolphins vs the Bills last year.
There haven't been many protests since the Cup started since Brazilians can't turn down a good party, but I think this result will bring the protests back. And if Argentina wins the Final, it could get ugly
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PK's in Sao Paulo in what has been a solid defensive display by both teams.
Argentina in the final . . . Messi gets his shot to cement his legacy.
Damn, I bet the other goal keeper saves atleast 2 or 3 of those penalty kicks.
Argentina vs. Germany---- two great football powers go at it again! (we have a lot of history together). Germany has had a well deserved advantage lately, but this is a chance for Argentina to snatch another World Cup from the Germans (channel Mexico '86) and break a long standing streak the Teutons have over the albiceleste. It's an epic battle of titans, I would have preferred Brazil vs. Argentina, but this matchup would be my second choice. Cue in the drama!, and they say soccer is boring!...:crazy:
Whatever happened to that guy that was going to be the next Pele? Freddy Adu? Not sure of the spelling but wasn't he like the greatest soccer kid in the world.
Welp he tried playing with adults and pros at 14 and well..... that didn't work out well. He is only 25 and his career is seen as over. Also by that I mean that like you said "the next Pele" and he has not done anything even close to that lol
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Care to explain....
Next pele my ***. He was a decent talent blown up by nike to sell football stuff in the US ( or was it addidas) he had a trial at united at the time and failed big time
He had a workout with a dutch team this week actually first time id heard of him in years.... again flopped
Have to eliminate this consolation game. It's a joke that no player wants to play in.
Yea but its more money for fifa and the tv companies so sadly its not going anywhere
Van Gaal would have officially started as our manager by now if it wasnt for that stupid game
I thought the Dutch played with some quality in this third place game, which was good to see.
Brazil is a train wreck though.
The ref was a mess too.
Still one game to go, but Arjen Robben is probably the MVP of this world cup for me. I know the James kid out of Columbia, Mueller from Germany and Messi will all be popular choices . . . but Robben's pace and ability to create something has been absolutely a pleasure to watch in this tournament.
Felipao needs to go...
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The ref was horrible in giving Holland 2 goals. If this were the final, there would have been a HUGE uproar but, the 3rd place game just does not matter. IMO, it is the worst match in the entire World Cup, totally meaningless.
Yea that first call was a complete botch job . . . sure it was a penalty outside of the box (barely) but that was a red card on Thiago Silva (clearly) . . . so in the end I think Brazil would easily take the PK + yellow card (full squad) over a direct kick at the top of the box + red card (play with 10 men for almost 90 minutes).
The yellow card for flopping on Oscar was the worst call though.
That, and the off sides was clear on the 2nd goal.
I've seen where Brazil HAS OVER 25,000 police and military for security on this match, with 100,000 fans from Argentina being there. Hope the post game is not more news worthy than the match.
Some compare this match to SA vs the Heat, with Germany the better team, and Argentina with the Superstar. I'm going with Germany 2-1.
:chuckle: thank god we got him signed before the tournament, his stock is much higher now
So does Gotze get Poland for that winner?
Half the german squad is Polish anyway and the other half turksih lol
Congrats Germany, great tournament and great game today.
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Well done Germany. I was pulling for them once USA got bounced.
Congratulations to the German National team. It was a hard fought game, both teams game it their all and the best team that day was Germany. I am proud of my Argentine boys.....head held high
So glad it didn't find penalties. Once Argentina edged Holland I was really worried the final would be 0-0 heading to the penalty spot.
This Argentina side isn't nearly as cynical as the depleted 1990 version that tried to mug Germany all night and reduce the outcome to penalties. But their style of play obviously was going to lend itself to backing off to the final third and then ruining all the clever German designs. It nearly worked, other than a handful of ridiculous misses. Even the Messi header after the German goal was right there for him.
I was unconvinced regarding Messi the entire tournament. Even if he's not scoring or assisting, the best player on the planet should be obvious to even a novice viewer all game long. That doesn't describe Messi at all. He's a little guy who runs around with his head down and too often takes time off and doesn't find the ball for long stretches. Ronaldo was injured and not close to his best but in this event but you could see the awesome skill set, the ability to do so many more things than Messi.
Too many men on the field. It remains that simple. This is now only 10 goals in the last 6 World Cup finals. And many of those are in extra time. Look for the trend to continue and there's no way to grow the game that way. What's the score at halftime? You can guess 0-0 once it reaches the knockout stage and it will take a fluke to be wrong. This version was fortunate in the group stage, and also in the overtimes, but with so much congestion there won't be goals.
It doesn't help that the finishers are terrible, and clueless. What is the attraction of aiming at the moon? As someone who cherishes probability, I never understand the soccer obsession with kicking the ball too high as opposed to too low. In this sport you are rewarded for topping it. Great things might happen, like a deflection off a leg. Nothing is going to deflect positively off the moon. That wall of players will often flinch and separate themselves when the ball approaches. Smart players on free kicks should act like the wall isn't even there. On Messi's final desperate free kick the one thing he couldn't afford was to sail it comically long. But naturally that was exactly what happened. Too much respect for the wall and into the 40th row. That's my final impression of Messi, other than picking up the undeserved best player award.
To be fair, Awsi, a low shot will often be deflected back the other way and allow for a counterattack. Not sure what the probabilities are, but I think I've seen more goals off high free kicks than low ones (even after accounting for goals off deflections, etc.), and more bad things (like counterattacks) happen off low kicks than high ones. But I do have to agree, Messi was not the best player in this tournament. As much as his diving sickens me, Robben was the most consistent offensive threat in the World Cup.
Arjen Robben, James Rodriguez, Thomas Mueller and you could probably throw in a few goalkeepers as well as more deserving "player of the tournament" choices over Messi. Messi could of been real special in this tournament, and at times he was, but ultimately he just wasn't a factor when it mattered most.
Congrats to the Germans, best team from the start and overcame the Europe on American soil hex. Well deserved. They will be loaded again in 2 years for the Euros and 4 years in Russia.
Great World Cup, and some great discussion. Thanks for both.
Yeah, I heard Robben was not going to move to United as had been speculated. Let's see what LVG has up his sleeve now.
Ya robben was ruled out ages ago. He has a great situation in Munich.
We are currently playing a very slow game of hardball with Juventus for Vidal. We had deals in place for Kroos and Fabergas when LVG took over but he said no to both... I really hope he knows what he is doing lol
We tried to her DI Maria but PSG offered him 8 million euros a year after tax. (And the French socialist gov tax that rate of income at like 70%). So that one went nowhere ..... The joys of arab oil money
We also need a cb... Or two.
I bought my tickets for LVGs first premier league game today. Up in the nosebleeds but I will be there
Philipp Lahm retired from the German national squad today. that came out of left field
Lahm is the captain, highly regarded and just experienced the biggest achievement he'll ever have in his career. May as well retire on your own terms rather than having Low give him the Michael Ballack treatment and not select him for future tournaments. It wouldn't surprise me if he was an emergency option if the Germans have serious issues on defense in the next 2 years but Germany tends to crank those guys out and I'm sure they have a few youngsters ready to go.
Lahm won't be immortalized like Matthaus and Beckenbauer, but he'll go down as one of the great rightbacks in German history.
Little late (crazy couple of weeks), but congrats greasy! I'm having WC withdrawals now.
almost a year later now. still felt great reading through this thread again
oh, and the German Football Association officially gave the men's national squad the moniker "Die Mannschaft" today. fml