Omar's free agency approach, it's actually not that bad of a plan

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  1. phinatic1399

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    I'd open up free agency on Saturday night by making Mike Wallace a five-year-$60 million offer, which features $32 million in guaranteed money. If that doesn't get the deal done then I'd immediately move onto Greg Jennings, making him a respectable four-year offer, which would pay this older reciever $8 million a season. The guaranteed money on Jennings' deal would be
    I'd focus on locking down one of those two receivers before sweetening my initial offer to Brian Hartline, which would be in the three-year, $14 million range. Make $8 million of Hartline's offer guaranteed, which means any other suitor would need to come strong to lure the eighth 1,000-yard receiver in Dolphins history away from Miami.
    If no Wallace or Jennings, then go get Patriots free agent Wes Welker. The goal is to avoid striking out completely like last year.
    After addressing the receiver position I'd upgrade the tight end spot by pursing Martellus Bennett, Dustin Keller, or Jared Cook, in that order. Make them all a three-year offer in the $4 to $6 million per year range and see who bites down hardest. While Bennett's quirky personality doesn't fit Philbin's style (he prefers sheep), Bennett is the top every down tight end on the free agent market.
    If forced to settle on Keller and Cook, two seam threats who struggle as pass blockers, re-signing Anthony Fasano for a two-year deal worth about $4 million becomes a priority because Bennett is the only free agent tight end other than Fasano who can actually block, and nobody on Miami's present roster can.
    Once the playmakers are upgraded, I'd use the remaining camp space to fortify the offensive line by making another run at former UM standout Eric Winston, offering him a respectable three-year contract worth $14 million.
    Despite being cut by Kansas City on Thursday, Winston's still young, durable, and has been one of the more productive offensive linemen in the NFL the past four seasons. His presence would allow Jonathan Martin to move back to his natural position at left tackle, and encourage the Dolphins let Jake Long walk.
    Once the offense has been addressed, the priority on defense should be finding an upgrade over Chris Clemons, and adding a veteran pass rusher who can serve as a stopgap for the next two seasons.
    Offer Ed Reed, Dashon Goldson and William Moore the same deal Bill Parcells gave Gibril Wilson back in 2009, signing him to a four-year deal worth $28 million (with $16 million guaranteed). Reed would be my top choice despite his age, but Goldson and Moore are no slouches.
    If we fail to land one of those safeties, I'd rummage the bargain bin and make a respectable two-year offer to former UM standout Kenny Phillips, who has been productive when not sidelined by knee injuries. If I can't upgrade the position with one of those four safeties I'd ride it out with what I had (Jimmy Wilson or Jonathon Amaya) and draft one early if Clemons signs elsewhere.
    The finishing piece to my free agency plan would be signing Osi Umenyiora, a pass rusher who still has plenty left in the tank despite his minimized role with the Giants last year. A pass rushing specialist like Umenyiora would be ideal opposite Cam Wake as long as he's not commanding more than $6 million a season. If the two-time Pro Bowler becomes too expensive than make a run at Dwight Freeney or John Abraham, two older defensive ends, as the fall back plan.
    The easiest way to improve the entire defense is to beef up the pass rushing. Better pass rushing improves coverage. And speaking of coverage, I'd address the cornerback position by adding a lower priced veteran like Adam "Pac Man" Jones, who can still be productive, and doubling down on cornerbacks early in April's draft, selecting two like the Dolphins did when they drafted Vontae Davis and Sean Smith together back in 2009.
    Cornerback is an expensive position, and since every free agent has warts, the odds of a team getting what they paid for at that position are slim. Therefore, go young and hungry at that one spot, and spend the rest of free agency bargain shopping.
    http://www.finheaven.com/forums/newthread.php?do=newthread&f=2
     
  2. NYinBostonFin

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    I actually like it. Shocked
     
  3. oasis

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    Say what you will about Omar (and I frequently do), it's not a bad plan. I disagree about the part of moving to Welker as a fall-back. I just don't think he fits and won't be worth the dollars. I'd move to the draft at that point and try to make sure I came out with two top prospects, even if that means trading up at some point.
     
  4. SunsPhinsfan03

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    I am not a Martellus Bennet guy and think last yr may of been an aberration. I'll take Keller instead.

    Besides that, I think its going to take more then 5yrs 60mil to get Mike Wallace. S Omar would prob let him walk, Which I cant blame him. I think the rest of the plan is good
     
  5. DzakkH13

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    It's not a bad plan. Fills almost all needs and we would still have the draft to plug holes.

    Some quality players on that list as well.
     
  6. Buddy

    Buddy Right Wing Nut Job Moderator Finheaven VIP

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    Well said, I agree completely.
     
  7. PhishyPhishy

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    Don't agree with Welker. What is the latest on Cruz? He should be the third target if in fact available. Reed over Goldson seems insane to me but either would be a massive improvement.
     
  8. ITS!MATEO

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    5 yrs 60 million or more is what it'll take to get Wallace signed and that is already too much imo. Jennings or a cheaper option guy ftw. Draft 2 receivers early. I'm not with making Cook your 3rd option at TE. He's the 2nd free agent I'd call(agent) come the 9th. Osi might cost a bit more than Abraham, so I would go after Abraham as a stopgap and draft a guy. Get Eric Winston and draft a guy. Offer Cox, Lewis and Houston a contract and see which one will take the least while drafting 2 corners. Sign Clemons back to a cheap contract and draft a FS. Sign Pat Devlin, McCann and Garner to cheap contracts. Draft BPA.
     
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    DzakkH13 Winning is a Habit Donator

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    Cruz is not an UFA. If we want Cruz we have to give up our 1st round pick and a HUGE contract (similar to Wallace's deal).
     
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    Pretty good plan. I'd change my philosophy a little though, if Wallace doesn't bet and Jennings turns down the 8 mil, I'd up the ante and offer Wallace more. Then instead of Osi, I'd go after Freeney. Or which ever pass-rusher of the 3 is cheapest. I don't like Bennett for some reason, but an upgrade is needed.

    The one big change I'd make though, resign Clemons instead of going after the "big name" He was solid but not spectacular. I think he and Reshad can grow together, but need new CB's for sure
     
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    That was good.... :idk:......pretty stunned right now.....the offseason blueprint I'm putting together actually has a very similar strategy.
     
  12. PhishyPhishy

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    Ahh Cruz is RFA, ok would make getting him nearly impossible. Still no to Welker, id take Amendola over Welker at this point.
     
  13. JFoxx

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    Was that really Omar with some good ideas??? The only one I completely disagree with is Welker. I don't care if he's all that's left, he's not a #1 outside threat and with the way he trashed this team on the way out . . . . that bridge is burned! I really like the other suggestions, but I'm not sure we will be THAT active in F/A. I think we could be, but it just doesn't fit the FO's personality. A few F/A's will be brought in, but they'll try and get a bunch of others via the draft (like it or not).
     
  14. PhinSoldia

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    he honestly lost me at wes welker
     
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    This is an awful plan, imo. I just can't imagine that many big-name players becoming phins - Wallace, Jennings, Reed, Osi, Welker, Bennett, Goldson, Keller, Abraham, Freeney, Pacman Jones. It's like he went down the FA lists and picked out names he recognized. Landing a group of these is just so unrealistic to me. I cannot imagine getting good value for many of these players.
     
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    the key is not all of them, i disagree with Omar, but Pacman has gotten better, and Omar has been on this "greybeard" kick for a couple of weeks waving the mancrush flag for keller, and Reed especially
     
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    Actually if read read the article right, his idea plan is Wallace, Reed, Osi, Bennett, and Jones.

    The others are alternates in case the first guy he wanted passed up the Dolphins.
     
  18. SMadison29

    SMadison29 What Sherman aspires to be

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    Exactly then we'd go from the luxury of all this cap space this year to have to cut most of those guys next year. The only free agents we should go after are 27 years old or younger that way we know they have their prime ahead of them. We don't need to sign a lot of mid to high profile free agents just a WR, a CB, & maybe a FS (which I would take the older E.Reed or C.Woodson on a two year deal) or RT. Build through the draft, don't just spend money for the sake of spending money because it will bite us in a year or two.
     
  19. j-off-her-doll

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    Things I like:

    Price points on Wallace and Jennings.
    The TE's he's giving a look.
    Looking into Winston.
    John Abraham.

    Things I don't:

    Hartline.
    Welker as fit here.
    The need to resign Fasano if we sign Cook or Keller.
    His ideas about the CB position.
    How much money he's spending on this plan. I mean, I understand if you're Ireland, you're going to break the bank to save your job, but if you're not approaching it with that mindset, this is a pretty stupid approach to building a football team.
     
  20. Roman529

    Roman529 Moon Runner / The 3 AM Crew

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    Omar makes sense for once. I agree we should try to get the "top dog" first....Mike Wallace...make him a good offer, if he passes on it than we should focus on Jennings or Welker. Then we need to focus on our next biggest area of need and target them....hopefully Ireland can fit together a nice team through free agency and the draft and spread the money around fairly.
     
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    Would we have the money to sign all of them?
     
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    ohall A Miami Dolphins fan, not a players fan.

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    Why does everyone slam on Omar?
     
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    Roman529 Moon Runner / The 3 AM Crew

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    It's because Omar is usually very negative about the Phins. He also loves to Twitter about the nightclubs and restaurants he frequents and the people he meets in the clubs. He should focus on football and not the celebrities he seems to be in love with.
     
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    Welker is only Welker because of Tom Brady...anywhere else, he's just another guy. But I hate Welker, Tom Brady, and the Pats so I may be biased, but I don't want that shrimp anywhere near this team **** Wes Welker.

    The rest of the plan sounds cool though. Although I like Cook more than Bennett.

    Ross and Ireland should be at Wallaces door step 1 second after free agency opens, escort him to the private plane, fly to Brazil for all I care but do no tlet that man get off the plane until he agrees to become a Fin. If we don't sign this guy, all of our TD production is going to have to come from Hartline, Matthews and a rook. Which means we will be at the bottom of the league in scoring again this year.
     
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    How do you hurt your enemy (the Pats) the most?....by stealing away one of their top weapons on offense. It's not just about what Wes might do in a Phin's uniform, but it's what it would do to hurt the Pats. I am tired of that midget always running those 3 yard slant patterns and picking up 1st downs because nobody can cover him. BUT I also think Tannehill can throw a short five yard pass just as well as Brady. Welker keeps drives alive and if we added him and a deep threat receiver it would be tough for defenses to cover them.
     
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    Did he forget that we have 5 picks in the first 3 rounds? Did he count how much money all that is altogether?
     
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    you come out the gates with $32 mil on the table for wallace there's no doubt in my mind he's a dolphin...i think omars dreaming though if he plans on landing goldston on gibril wilson money...good luck with that...william moore might bite for that ed reed might given his age but i doubt gholston would...

    i have no idea why we would up the offer to hartline period...anything at $7 mil miami should just walk away from...it's a bad contract

    $32 mil though for wallace who is not a physical win wr or a red zone threat...wow...i want a legit playmaker but that's some serious coin...

    oh and he's low on his offers to keller and cook...might get bennett for that given the way he may be perceived by some teams as a headache...
     
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    Reed, Osi, Abraham, Freeney, all too old and on downside of careers. No thanks.
     
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    Thx. Ya I can see how annoying that would be.
     
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    If we get those players, this team is contending for a Super Bowl for the forseeable future.
     
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    we're not getting most of those names...too many big names too many teams with money...we might get one of those older pass rushers...i doubt osi commands a market as a 3 down de right now that's less than or at $6 mil per...he's got to be higher than that imo...

    i don't mind the older guys if the plan is to make them situational rushers...only one i think can still play every down at a high end is osi though...
     
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    I just don't agree on signing Welker and signing Pac-Man Jones. Why in the hell would Philbin allow his personality in the locker room? Not gonna happen.
     
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    Typical. This plan reads like a third-grader. Almost all of the FA's listed will go for more money than Omar slots, so the only one he would actually sign is Fasano. No WR, SS, T, DE, or CB. Yeah, quite a plan you've got there.

    In Jonahan Martin he is taking a guy who received a ton of help at RT and was one of the worst RT's and who got destroyed at LT, and counting on him to improve at light-speed from the Napoleon Dynamite of T's to the Incredible Hulk of LT's in one off season. Unlikely. Then he plans to low ball the good RT he wants to bring in.

    Enjoy the cap space, because those low ball offers aren't filling many holes. Good luck with the draft since your WR corps will consist of Bess, Matthews and the practice squad with Egnew as your starting TE and Garner as your RT.

    Sure, every plan looks great when you play Madden and get everybody for less than their value.

    This is not a plan. This is naive.
     
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    Wow. I actually like this a lot
     
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    If I'm Ireland I'm going hard after Wallace or Jennings. Then turn my attention to Michael Bennett of the bucs. He is an all around de with explosive get off and would work well in our system I think. He's a little under rated too and at only 27 could be exactly what we need for the next few years opposite wake. Next make a conservative effort to bargain shop safety and ot for upgrades. Follow that up with omars plans on a te and fill the rest of the holes via the draft. And might I add I hope Ireland uses his ammunition to acquire the guys we are targeting even if we need to trade up. Finally I resign reggie as he is a matchup nightmare and something that if used right can help us tremendously with his play Making ability. List my two cents
     
  36. FINatic054

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    I concur
     
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    No to Ed Reed.. Rather have golston for the same amount of money as omar put it.
     
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    I read that yesterday and thought it was pretty good too, I had some variations in mind but I was surprisingly impressed.
     
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    If the offseason goes the way he hopes, we would re-sign Hartline and sign Mike Wallace, Eric Winston Martellus Bennett, Ed Reed, Osi Umenyiora and Adam Jones. Then we would draft two corners in the first two rounds, something like Xavier Rhodes in the 1st and either Blidi Wreh-Wilson or David Amerson with one of our 2nds.

    Probably a little much to ask for in terms of FA, but it sounds like a friggin amazing offseason to me! Sign me up!!!
     
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    Agree. The first thing I thought when I read the thing was, "This isn't remotely fiscally realistic." Omar was just playing Madden like so many FH posters. Outside of the Wallace contract he proposed, I think every number he threw out will probably end up being lower than the real contract numbers will end up being for those free agents. It's easy to put a super bowl roster together on paper when you decide not to be realistic.
     

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