Over Last 4 Games Pats Average 47.5 Per Game

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  1. KTOWNFINFAN

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    With the extra time to prepare for us, since they played on Thursday, can we hold em under that average?? I say no, but that is just my opinion. If we win this one we will have to put up 50+. Our defense is not yet made to handle spread attacks and good QBs. I say they have 35 at half.
     
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    As one Dolphins player put it today, a monster is coming to Miami next week. This will be by far our toughest game, but I highly doubt the Patriots put up 47 or more points next week. I know what they have down in past weeks, but I don't see it happening.
     
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    We control the clock with the ground game and win 27-24.
     
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    Maybe we will catch them looking ahead to the Houston game. One can hope. :idk:
     
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    Ugh sadly I agree that this is game is going to be pretty hard to win. The Patriots are probably among the most opportune teams in the NFL during this stretch of the season. They take advantage of every mistake a team makes and they capitalize on every momentum swing they get.

    The same strategy for Brady still holds true, keep him uncomfortable in the pocket and keep him out of a rhythm. With the Gronk out this game it makes it slightly easier to fair against them. Emphasis on the "slightly" considering they disemboweled the Jets without the Gronk. We absolutely cannot give up a special teams TD or a Defensive TD. On that same note, we have to find a way to get a ****ing turnover on Defense. Good god 4 straight games with no turnovers is a joke.
     
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    What about our secondary and lack of consistent pass rush makes you think that? They may have 40 points by the half.
     
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    Brady, Gronkowski, Hernandez and our secondary

    No good can come from that
     
  8. Miamifinz

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    It's no secret we can't handle the Pats at their best, and frankly we need help even when they're at their worst. We have had his # in the past and hopefully it's one of those games where we click defensively and sneak by with just enough offense. I mean hey the Seahawks beat them , why not us?
     
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    Gronk is out...
     
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    For sure?

    Still they'll have far too much in that passing attack for our secondary
     
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    Yes BUT,,,,they played the Bills, Colts, Jets and Rams in those four games....none of them have good defenses,,,,in fact their D's are horrible.
     
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    His arm is broken
     
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    didn't know that, been a bit slow this week!

    sucks for him...
     
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    Pressure...pressure and more heat. Then you have a chance. No heat and you will get slaughtered
     
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    It's going to fall on the secondary. Smith and Carroll need to prevent as many plays by Brady as possible. Dansby, Burnett, and the LB's need to cover the middle and slot well and make their tackles. I predict Welker is going to have a career game if they dont.

    Wake and the line need to have that pressure big time.

    I think we can shut down the run, but i can already see the Pats doing crafty plays like screen's / dump-offs to Woodhead that will ensure 1st downs for them.

    Patriot's D doesnt scare me, as long as we dont force plays. They feed off opportunity for turnovers.
     
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    O is going to have to out up 30 points... Tanny can define himself this game
     
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    I'm not as optimistic for the Pats as some Miami fans here. Miami always plays us tough. And if they can put up 24 on a tough Seattle defense, our sieve of a secondary could be quite a problem-unless Aqib is the quick fix we needed.
     
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    gronk will be out

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    i dont think they will put that many points up on us. i think it will be closer than people think
    pats secondary isnt all that imo but nether are our wrs. i think if tanny has a good game and uses his wheels along with his arm it will be close
     
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    Entire team will need to bring their big boy pants for this one.
     
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    The Key will be to get to Brady Early.... once he gets banged around a couple times he is not as effective as a rule..
     
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    I do not think we can keep up with Pats at all. That is why the Seattle win was big. The Fins sked in December is brutal out of the gates.

    I would like to see turnovers and the O play their best game of the year. That still might not be enough against a hot Pats team.
     
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    IMHO, Pats are due for a clunker. And with Gronk out it's going to change their O-plan.
     
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    If we can bring pressure like we did yesterday, we might have a shot. Brady doesnt have the wheels of Wilson and he had to use em plenty in that game.
     
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    Hopefully Philbin has some tricks up his sleeves for this one. They can probably just leave their punter in Boston.
     
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    Doesn't feel like they have a punter...
     
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    Gronkowski is out, Hernandez is playing hurt, and I dont expect NE to rush for 100+ yards like they have been against other teams. NE also had 4 defensive or special teams TDs in the last 2 games. I fully expect Brady to carve up our secondary, but I dont expect them to score 47+ points.
     
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    Funny how you guys are worry about our secondary. Yes I know how bad they are but the reason this game can get ugly fast is the lack of a pass rush. If Brady has all day to trow, and I believe he will, then you can't expect our secondary or any secondary to have a chance. Their receivers get open quick and they all make YAC. The only chance we have is for our offence to have long drives and we haven't have those in a consiten basis. Add the fact that our defence doesn't force any turnovers and you have the potential for an ugly game.

    Ozzy rules!!
     
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    Only way to hold the Pats under 50 points is by having long drives and keeping Brady and company off the field. We need to hold the ball for 35+ minutes.
     
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    I'm glad the Pats have 10 days to recoup. Hernandez disappeared after one big play, so i think his ankle is still an issue. Also Edelman took a brutal hit from Landry that knocked him out. We'll have to wait & see if he can recover in time. He's been a big piece of the O & special teams in the past few weeks. I wouldn't be surprised if they re-signed Branch this week.
     
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    The only way to keep NE under 30+ points is to do what you have to do to stop Tom Brady, sack and hit the living **** out of him. The D-line will have to have an epic game and pressure the hell out of Brady, not only pressure but hit him and hit him hard, clean and often. He gets rattled after about the tenth knock down and tends to get gun shy (at least for Brady).

    It a tested and true formula, the key to beating NE is and has been for the past 12 knocking down Tom Brady.
     
  31. kcbrown

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    RJ Stanford (Sanford?) is our starting cornerback. Wake can't buy a sack right now.

    Pats 38 - Fins 23.
     
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    Sacks, Interceptions and keep Brady on the bench. That has been our recipe for beating brady in the past.
     
  33. Ed Norton

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    That's a good point, Wilson avoided a lot of sacks with his mobility. It seems like any QB with some mobility has burned the Dolphins defense.
     
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    You know, the Pats/Dolphin matchups over the past ten years have been odd ones. For some reason we always seem to steal a game from them. The Patriots of been rolling. Could be time for an upset. Not saying we do, but I wouldn't be surprised.
     
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    Dolphins shock the world as they shut out the Patriots.
     
  36. Fins1971

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    Patriots have averaged 38.2 points a game on the road. Got to keep them below 30 to have any chance.



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    Primary team the Patriots: 4-2
    Points for the Patriots: 233
    Points against the Patriots: 122

     
  37. KTOWNFINFAN

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    I am sure you were aware when you wrote that, but just to be sure. You DO realize that we are worse than ALL those teams in pass defense and worse than all of them except the bills in total defense, right??
     
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    What is this? 2006?..... As much as I want a win (watching with Pats fans Sunday), we wil probably hang in there till halfway in the 4th then collapse. Pats 35 Phins 24.
     
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    I think our best chance is to have long drives that score, even if it means going for some 4th and shorts, then kick onsides kicks multiply times, actually kick them EVERY time the pats fall back into regular returns. If we can get just one or two of them and our offense is working we might have a chance. The pats don't have a problem moving the ball between the 20s so giving them a short field vs our rested defense is better than letting them move down field moving the chains until our defense is too tired to make a play once they get into the redzone where we have the advantage.

    Now obviously, using such an agressive strategy will only work if we can score, but their pass defense is worse than ours, and if we can keep them to short fast drives that will put our offense right back on the field and wear out their defense. Also if we can get a few onsides kicks that too would keep their defense on the field. I really don't see it staying close any other way.
     
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    I hope Philbin takes a cue from The Program and forces Reggie to carry a football all week long. The game can be won as long as Miami plays smart, limits the turn overs, and controls the clock
     

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