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I'm pretty sure this was posted a while back, but I think it has more relevance now that the Senior Bowl is over. Who do you think is overrated and underrated among the draft prospects? My picks:
Underrated
Jerome Harrison, RB Washington State- At first I thought he was too small, but Harrison really good in the Senior Bowl
Charles Spencer, OL Pitt- Succeeded against many of the nation's premier lineman in the Senior Bowl

Overrated
Elvis Dumervil, DE Louisville- This guy lead the NCAA in sacks?
Derek Hagan, WR Arizona State- Dropped too many balls in the Senior Bowl
 
Overrated
Elvis Dumervil, DE Louisville- This guy lead the NCAA in sacks?
Derek Hagan, WR Arizona State- Dropped too many balls in the Senior Bowl

They were overrated. They've since dropped down the charts.
 
Overrated

Vince Young
Haloti Ngata
Barrick Nealy - he absolutely sucks, not a "sleeper"
Derek Hagan - was overrated, now falling into place
Eric Winston - see above
Andrew Whitworth
Greg Eslinger - those that think he can play in any system
DeAngelo Williams - somewhat overrated
Jay Cutler - see above


My underrated list is shorter, I'll do it later.
 
ahh Vince Young. probably still a top 10 guy any way you look at it, but top 3? overrated yes, but only slightly.
 
Man do I agree with you on Whitworth, he is horrible...when not jumping offsides or holding he is chasing the guy that just whipped his butt....

LIQUID24 said:
Overrated

Vince Young
Haloti Ngata
Barrick Nealy - he absolutely sucks, not a "sleeper"
Derek Hagan - was overrated, now falling into place
Eric Winston - see above
Andrew Whitworth
Greg Eslinger - those that think he can play in any system
DeAngelo Williams - somewhat overrated
Jay Cutler - see above


My underrated list is shorter, I'll do it later.
 
Pocoloco said:
ahh Vince Young. probably still a top 10 guy any way you look at it, but top 3? overrated yes, but only slightly.

All a matter of opinion. Top 10 as an athlete? No doubt. But as a QB, no way imo.
 
SpeedRush99 said:
All a matter of opinion. Top 10 as an athlete? No doubt. But as a QB, no way imo.

I don't think you watched much Vince Young last year.

Vince Young's passing numbers...

Comp % - 65.2 Yards - 3036 YPA - 9.3(!) TDs - 26 INTs - 10 Rating - 163.9

The 1000 yards rushing and 12 rushing TDs are just a bonus.

For comparison:

Cutler:

Comp % - 59.1 Yards - 3073 YPA - 6.65 TDs 21 INTs 9 Rating - 126.07
 
nopony said:
I don't think you watched much Vince Young last year.

Vince Young's passing numbers...

Comp % - 65.2 Yards - 3036 YPA - 9.3(!) TDs - 26 INTs - 10 Rating - 163.9

The 1000 yards rushing and 12 rushing TDs are just a bonus.

For comparison:

Cutler:

Comp % - 59.1 Yards - 3073 YPA - 6.65 TDs 21 INTs 9 Rating - 126.07

Seriously, how many threads are you gonna post those numbers in????

I saw him quite a bit actually.
 
SpeedRush99 said:
Seriously, how many threads are you gonna post those numbers in????

I saw him quite a bit actually.

Every thread where there is someone who mistakenly states that Vince Young is a runner, not a passer.

So, if leading the nation in passing wasn't good enough for you, what is? Being an moderately accurate white guy from a terrible football school?
 
Here we go with the Vince bashing again. On a 'completely unrelated topic' ;) did anyone see Donovan McNabb talking today about the poor conception of black quarterbacks? Hmm.
 
LIQUID24 said:
Overrated

Vince Young
Haloti Ngata
Barrick Nealy - he absolutely sucks, not a "sleeper"
Derek Hagan - was overrated, now falling into place
Eric Winston - see above
Andrew Whitworth
Greg Eslinger - those that think he can play in any system
DeAngelo Williams - somewhat overrated
Jay Cutler - see above


My underrated list is shorter, I'll do it later.
I have to disagree about Williams....he showed great vision and great speed and burst.The guy is not overated imo.I can agree with all the other guys tho.

Ozzy rules!!
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nopony said:
Every thread where there is someone who mistakenly states that Vince Young is a runner, not a passer.

So, if leading the nation in passing wasn't good enough for you, what is? Being an moderately accurate white guy from a terrible football school?

Don't even start making this about color. No one is disputing the fact that VY was a great college QB. We're talking NFL potential, and IMO he needs alot of work. Some people are so narrowminded.
 
Underrated:
Skyler Green
Gabe Watson
Nick Mangold
Cedric Griffin
Joseph Addai
Tamba Hali
D'qwell Jackson

Overrated:
Jay Cutler
Thomas Howard
Jeremy Trueblood
Jean-Giles
Jason Avant (even for how low he is rated now)
Alan Zemaitis
 
nopony said:
Every thread where there is someone who mistakenly states that Vince Young is a runner, not a passer.

So, if leading the nation in passing wasn't good enough for you, what is? Being an moderately accurate white guy from a terrible football school?
"white guy" ??

nopony said:
Every thread where there is someone who mistakenly states that Vince Young is a runner, not a passer.

So, if leading the nation in passing wasn't good enough for you, what is? Being an moderately accurate white guy from a terrible football school?
I trust scouts and personnel people more than stats. I doubt Vince Young puts up those numbers playing for Vanderbilt. I bet Cutler's numbers are even better playing for a more talented team like USC or Texas.

HysterikiLL said:
Here we go with the Vince bashing again. On a 'completely unrelated topic' ;) did anyone see Donovan McNabb talking today about the poor conception of black quarterbacks? Hmm.
Saying he's a top 10 talent instead of a top 3 talent is considered bashing?
 
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jlfin said:
I trust scouts and personnel people more than stats. I doubt Vince Young puts up those numbers playing for Vanderbilt. I bet Cutler's numbers are even better playing for a more talented team like USC or Texas.

Exactly, but that kind of logic is hard for them to understand.
 
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